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999[DS] / VLR / ZE3 [3DS/PSV]: Wassup. You have ...Somnium Files? Siggyyy. Phidooo.

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    I just... I can't believe they've managed to make the game more mindfucky than both of the first games, and I'm only a few hours in. Especially considering they basically conceded the mindfuckery from #1 and 2.
    I'm glad that pretty much all of the characters are being straightforward about everything we already know right off the bat. It would've driven me crazy if Phi and Sigma were tight-lipped to begin with or if Junpei and Akane pretended the morphogenetic field wasn't a thing, but they did a good job of pretty much immediately acknowledging all that stuff.

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Beezel wrote: »
    Is this a proper trilogy? Should I start with 999 and work my way up?

    short answer: yes

    The third game is going to make a lot of direct references to things from the previous two entries that's going to deepen your enjoyment by magnitudes. The best route would probably find an in-depth plot synopsis video for 999 then start with VLR since VLR introduced a lot of QoL improvements that made going back to 999 kind of a chore to work through on a fresh sitting.

    That's a fair point. I could justify watching an LP of 999 because replaying it to make different choices is kind of cumbersome, since you always have to start over from the very beginning. That said, IMO the puzzle sequences are a crucial element of the game. You spend a good chunk of time twisting and turning these convoluted plots in your head trying to decide who you trust and who you don't. Then when you're about to start tying red string onto pushpins in corkboard, BOOM, puzzle room. Now your brain is 100% focused on the task at hand. You can't afford to be mulling over your conspiracy theories anymore, you've gotta do math or find chess pieces or whatever the fuck that bastard has set up for you.

    It's the way game does peaks and valleys to keep an escalating tone without getting overbearing about it. From what I heard, the iOS version of 999 literally removed the puzzle rooms from the game altogether, and is way worse pacing-wise as a result.

    Worth reiterating that if you play them out of order at all you'll really ruin things for yourself. Out of pretty much any narrative I know (video game or otherwise), this trilogy is one of the most reliant on experiencing the story in the way/order that it is presented in order to get the full experience.

    Really the only thing I wish is that it'd be possible for you to play through 999 with VLR's QoL improvements. Has anyone heard anything about the Steam release of 999? Will that maybe at least include a way to quickly skip through segments you've already read?

    EDIT:

    Alright so playing further...

    Holy fucking shit has anyone else played C-team Suspicion, yet?
    They were not kidding when they said this one would be gorier.

    Winky on
  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Beat the game already, gg ez. Will look up other endings on youtube I guess.

    You really don't get a lot of gameplay time for your money with games these days.

    wonky pls
    I'm talking about the first ending :P

    thus "wonky pls"

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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Holy fucking shit has anyone else played C-team Suspicion, yet?
    They were not kidding when they said this one would be gorier.

    Oh, there's definitely worse than this.

  • KoldanarKoldanar Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »

    Holy fucking shit has anyone else played C-team Suspicion, yet?
    They were not kidding when they said this one would be gorier.

    Did you get to Q-Team Pod room?
    Holy crap, that gleeful look on Carlos's face.

    Also, Q speculations:
    Little dude's a robot, right? He lifted the Force Quit box easily, and he even has a red power symbol on his socks.

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  • BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    Ahaaa

    Siggy and Phido still my fave characters.

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    "...only mights and maybes."
  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Downloaded my copy! I just had the longest shift ever at work, so I think I'm just gonna lie down on my bed and collapse / play the game, whichever happens first.

    Add me on Switch: 7795-5541-4699
  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    It is super suspicious seeing the flow branch continue after a Game Over node.

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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    It is super suspicious seeing the flow branch continue after a Game Over node.

    General spoiler, nothing too major:
    I'm finding those tend to be other team fragments that pick up after another one bites it.

    WinkyAndy Joe
  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Just had a crash in the D-Manufacturing Room (Outbreak fragment). :\
    When defusing detonator's pendulum lock.

    EDIT: No crash the second time, but now I'm a lot more paranoid about saving.

    Vyolynce on
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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    I get that you have to do it for some clues and all, but there are some breathtakingly stupid choices in this from time to time.

    D-Disposal:
    Yeah, sure, let's not take something that could be an antidote as you're on the ground actively dying from the poison.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Mechanical wrote: »
    I get that you have to do it for some clues and all, but there are some breathtakingly stupid choices in this from time to time.

    D-Disposal:
    Yeah, sure, let's not take something that could be an antidote as you're on the ground actively dying from the poison.

    Another interesting fact about that fragment...
    Whether or not there's a live round in the chamber is literally random as far as I can tell. Might be tied to the timer, but still.

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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    Q: FCFS Fragment -
    You know, every time I think they can't make deaths worse in this I'm proven to be horrifyingly wrong. I think I'm going to need to do something else for a bit.

    Vyolynce
  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Ooh, just got my second ending. Not bad for my first fragment with a different group. Although man, was that trip unexpected.
    I got Q Ending 1/"Crossbow" via the Study.
    And killing Eric.
    Thus revealing Mira as the heart-ripping serial killer. o_O

    I can probably get one more Game Over here, but will have to come back later with more information for the other branches.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    I write Uchikoshi into every text prompt because I know he is the correct answer even if the game doesn't recognize it.

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    Winky
  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Man, hitting a giant wall in the Q-Biolab quest.
    Got pink and green liquids (both blurry under microscope), revealed the hint on the centrifuge cover, and got the liquid analyzer up and running but can't figure out the next step.

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  • KoldanarKoldanar Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Man, hitting a giant wall in the Q-Biolab quest.
    Got pink and green liquids (both blurry under microscope), revealed the hint on the centrifuge cover, and got the liquid analyzer up and running but can't figure out the next step.

    Hint -
    You need to do something to unblurry the liquids.

    Bigger hint -
    Toss a liquid into the centrifuge, then microscope the results.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Been trying that, but getting "Don't know how to use that" messages. Guess I'm not pixel hunting good enough.

    EDIT: Yup, bad pixel hunting.

    Vyolynce on
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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Beezel wrote: »
    Ahaaa

    Siggy and Phido still my fave characters.

    Yeah
    Siggy doesn't seem to have changed all that much personality-wise in all those years :P. Also I kinda love how the major conflict on D team is like "No, no, let me be the one who dies!"

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    agoaj wrote: »
    I write Uchikoshi into every text prompt because I know he is the correct answer even if the game doesn't recognize it.

    C-Team Suspicion
    UCHIKOSHI KILLED JUNPEI.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I'm breaking my rule about entering the thread to tell you all to attempt to blame the dog for things when given virtually any opportunity

    Not a spoiler, just something you can do for a laugh

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Oh, sweet, don't feel bad anymore about the copy from Amazon not showing up on release date, since they just gave me a free $10 gift certificate as a apology.

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Mechanical wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    It is super suspicious seeing the flow branch continue after a Game Over node.

    General spoiler, nothing too major:
    I'm finding those tend to be other team fragments that pick up after another one bites it.

    I'm not too far yet, but
    Yeah, it seems to tend to be that the plot picks up with another team. It's those routes where it ends with a lock but the team hasn't been killed off that are really suspicious.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Koldanar wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »

    Holy fucking shit has anyone else played C-team Suspicion, yet?
    They were not kidding when they said this one would be gorier.

    Did you get to Q-Team Pod room?
    Holy crap, that gleeful look on Carlos's face.

    Also, Q speculations:
    Little dude's a robot, right? He lifted the Force Quit box easily, and he even has a red power symbol on his socks.
    You also don't see him bleed from the shotgun shot.

    Speculation:
    Q is Quark (perhaps sort of obviously?). Quark was likewise inexplicably resilient iirc. Either they're the same robot or are of the same model.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    So I've played about 10 minutes of the 3ds version.

    And these cutscenes don't look that bad.

    I mean, it's not stellar, and I still miss 999's art, but I think it looks a bit better than VLR.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    So I've played about 10 minutes of the 3ds version.

    And these cutscenes don't look that bad.

    I mean, it's not stellar, and I still miss 999's art, but I think it looks a bit better than VLR.

    I actually like the models. The animation is super inconsistent, though, and some of it is pretty cringy.

    Also, some of these voice actors are way better than others.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Enlong wrote: »
    So I've played about 10 minutes of the 3ds version.

    And these cutscenes don't look that bad.

    I mean, it's not stellar, and I still miss 999's art, but I think it looks a bit better than VLR.

    Agreed, but it's clear to tell where they cut corners, i.e. having someone hack at THIN AIR with sounds playing.

    C-Team Pantry. D:


    Also not a fan of June's new VA, hers in VLR was perfect. Also also, her ponytail is possessed during some cutscenes, possessing a will of its own.

    cj iwakura on
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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Winky wrote: »
    The animation is super inconsistent, though, and some of it is pretty cringy.

    Every time I watch Gab walk through a duct I can't help but think that I've seen real-world robot dogs with more realistic movement. And I'm talking toys from ~20 years ago, not the high-end stuff we can make these days.


    Here's a fun sub-game: catch the references contained in the X-Passes.
    One of Akane's is "SIX" and one of Junpei's is "FIVE", while I believe Sigma and Phi are sometimes assigned "RED" and "BLUE".

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Just started the transporter room.

    Was wondering when things were gonna get weird :P.

    Vyolynce
  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Well here's a weird set of circumstances. I ordered the game from Amazon.ca. Just now I get an email from them saying I may miss my release date, that they apologize, and are giving me $10 credit as an apology. Neato.

    Thing is... the game's already "here". In quotes because I was unfortunately out of the house at the time and missed the delivery. Double annoying because they didn't use Canada Post, which would be at the post office down the street at the end of the day for me to pick up. But instead Purolator, which is a right pain in the arse to get to, and I get the feeling I could go just before closing tonight and they wouldn't have it processed yet. So I gotta wait till tomorrow.

    A pain, but I got errands to run tomorrow anyways, so picking it up ain't a big deal. But... the game's here and I got the delivery slip to prove it. They didn't miss the release date at all, they nailed it in fact (I live in Victoria, if anything ships from Richmond/Vancouver it's here next day regardless of shipping speed, if it's from Ontario then it's a week+). There's no need to give me $10 as an apology!

    Guess I'll take it though. :)

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    So I'm not seeing this on the NZ eShop, though that may just be down to the search being typically atrocious, but it's not under new releases either. Am I missing something, or am I gonna be getting the Steam version?

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Just started the game.

    ...well, that was fast.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Wow, Eric has some fucking issues. O_O

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    The animation is super inconsistent, though, and some of it is pretty cringy.

    Every time I watch Gab walk through a duct I can't help but think that I've seen real-world robot dogs with more realistic movement. And I'm talking toys from ~20 years ago, not the high-end stuff we can make these days.


    Here's a fun sub-game: catch the references contained in the X-Passes.
    One of Akane's is "SIX" and one of Junpei's is "FIVE", while I believe Sigma and Phi are sometimes assigned "RED" and "BLUE".

    Eric's backstory spoilers
    One of his codes is "DAD"

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Also, just out of curiosity regarding the very beginning of the game:
    Do you always automatically win the coin flip the first time?

    Raiden333
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Is there any kind of order, or does it matter? This feels even more chaotic than usual.
    I'm breaking my rule about entering the thread to tell you all to attempt to blame the dog for things when given virtually any opportunity

    Not a spoiler, just something you can do for a laugh

    There's quite a few fun options for that. This is the only board's topic that I feel is safe, a certain other major MB's one is a minefield. (It usually is)

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    C-team Monty Hall (Control Room) question
    I've used the A-mode on the glasses and seen the connections, but I still can't figure out what hoops I need to jump through for these connections. Do I need to turn the power on first or something?

    EDIT: Figured it out. What a pain.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    I've been looking for easter eggs in the name input. None so far that I've found.
    HOW WOULD A DOG DO IT?

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Found my first funyarinpa reference

    Also, my phone curiously does not attempt to autocorrect funyarinpa

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    From what I heard in trailers, the chaotic order is part of the story and is meant to obfuscate the progression of time.

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