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999[DS] / VLR / ZE3 [3DS/PSV]: Wassup. You have ...Somnium Files? Siggyyy. Phidooo.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Oh my fucking god this game.

    There aren't enough psyducks in the world.

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    Helping at least this way, since I'm still waiting on FedEx to show up...

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.
    The hint to the Door of Truth is on a similar door hidden in another room.
    the second item in the d force quit box requires a space
    Have you seen what happened to the Sigma and Diane who stayed in the pods in the Stranded Pair fragment?

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.

    Are you looking only at the flow chart? There are some disconnected scenes than don't show up on it and are only accessed from the fragments.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    The ending is perfect.

    I love it.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Still early in the game for me.

    Junpei is being such a little shit. I love it.

  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.

    Are you looking only at the flow chart? There are some disconnected scenes than don't show up on it and are only accessed from the fragments.

    Checked every fragment, checked entire flow chart. Nothing.

    Missing fragments:
    C-Team 4, 5, 8, and 12 (counting across and down from top)
    Q-Team 2 and 5
    D-Team 7

    Non-decision dead ends/incomplete fragments:
    C Suspicion (6/7) -> Q Pop Off -(6/7) > D Door of Truth (3/6) -> 2 locked
    1 locked (from D Fire: Blank->Drink)
    C Anthropic (5/8)
    D Transporter (7/9; "stranded pair")
    1 locked (from D Outbreak)

    And the long string after the FCFS chain, presumably the Force Quit line.

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  • KupiKupi Registered User regular
    I have yet to find a scene in this game that was not measurably improved by a smash cut to Diana looking terribly confused.

    My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    I'm just barely starting to put enough pieces into place and starting to grasp the bigger picture of what's going on in some of these timelines, and holy shit I'm in love with this game. Well, more in love, I guess.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Um. Wow.

    I'm doing the initial decision game scenes, and I was about to say that I'm amused by the previous protagonists being all cryptic about the events of their respective games.

    But then I got to D team's exposition. Sigma has absolutely no patience for subtlety, it seems.

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.

    Are you looking only at the flow chart? There are some disconnected scenes than don't show up on it and are only accessed from the fragments.

    Checked every fragment, checked entire flow chart. Nothing.

    Missing fragments:
    C-Team 4, 5, 8, and 12 (counting across and down from top)
    Q-Team 2 and 5
    D-Team 7

    Non-decision dead ends/incomplete fragments:
    C Suspicion (6/7) -> Q Pop Off -(6/7) > D Door of Truth (3/6) -> 2 locked
    1 locked (from D Fire: Blank->Drink)
    C Anthropic (5/8)
    D Transporter (7/9; "stranded pair")
    1 locked (from D Outbreak)

    And the long string after the FCFS chain, presumably the Force Quit line.

    Have you gone back and gotten all the Execution scenes by changing the votes?

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Also, I can't get over how great the primary twist of the game is. I actually laughed out-loud for like 10 minutes when it happened.

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Um. Wow.

    I'm doing the initial decision game scenes, and I was about to say that I'm amused by the previous protagonists being all cryptic about the events of their respective games.

    But then I got to D team's exposition. Sigma has absolutely no patience for subtlety, it seems.

    D-team best-team

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  • SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.

    Are you looking only at the flow chart? There are some disconnected scenes than don't show up on it and are only accessed from the fragments.

    Checked every fragment, checked entire flow chart. Nothing.

    Missing fragments:
    C-Team 4, 5, 8, and 12 (counting across and down from top)
    Q-Team 2 and 5
    D-Team 7

    Non-decision dead ends/incomplete fragments:
    C Suspicion (6/7) -> Q Pop Off -(6/7) > D Door of Truth (3/6) -> 2 locked
    1 locked (from D Fire: Blank->Drink)
    C Anthropic (5/8)
    D Transporter (7/9; "stranded pair")
    1 locked (from D Outbreak)

    And the long string after the FCFS chain, presumably the Force Quit line.

    Have you gone back and gotten all the Execution scenes by changing the votes?

    About that...
    I didn't get C-Team's execution scene after doing all the paths and I just this second realised it isn't some hidden later thing, the outcome can just turn out either way

    That's... real neat.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    It's fun seeing the past-game characters mostly as lost as everyone else. But man, Junpei, the last... year? Has not been kind to you attitude-wise.

    (Ended up with the Steam version. For some reason it's out on the AU eShop but not NZ. Hooray for region weirdness.)

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Just got my second ending and my first crash shortly after that. Woooo

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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    General character spoilers/speculations, D-Team.
    I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Diana and Phi are somehow related by Weird Time Shit despite having little evidence to back this theory up.
    Enlong wrote: »
    Um. Wow.

    I'm doing the initial decision game scenes, and I was about to say that I'm amused by the previous protagonists being all cryptic about the events of their respective games.

    But then I got to D team's exposition. Sigma has absolutely no patience for subtlety, it seems.

    D-Execution:
    Poor Diana. Phi and Sigma going on about needing to shift right there and she just gets to be really confused before exploding.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    It's fun seeing the past-game characters mostly as lost as everyone else. But man, Junpei, the last... year? Has not been kind to you attitude-wise.

    (Ended up with the Steam version. For some reason it's out on the AU eShop but not NZ. Hooray for region weirdness.)

    Junpei... the only thing I could think the entire game was Andy Samberg screaming I'M AN ADUUUUULT

  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    FINALLY.

    FedEx finally showed up. Crammed that mofo in the Vita.
    And won the coin flip. Credits.

    EZ game, EZ Lyfe.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    FINALLY.

    FedEx finally showed up. Crammed that mofo in the Vita.
    And won the coin flip. Credits.

    EZ game, EZ Lyfe.

    Good job! Hope it was worth the wait!

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    "Reality"
    I assume from the thumbnail that it's named this because SHIT GONNA GET REAL SON

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Has anybody read the manual? Something strange is going on in it. Not real spoilers, but I will just to be safe.
    On the character pages, they have all the characters, and the name of the VA for both english and japanese. Except... for Carlos, Junpei, and Diana, the english name is instead "Morphogenetic Field Voice #1/2/3.

    I have no idea if that's some deeper meaning that'll pay of, or just a weird way to not credit somebody who doesn't/can't be credited.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Just found D-end 1.
    Aka "Biohazard" because it's the reality that leads directly to VLR.
    Had to jump directly to a ! on the flow that wasn't obvious. (The fragment might have been "new" and I missed it, though.)
    After D-team sets the bomb, and the girls run away.

    EDIT:
    And there are still two nodes on the chart after it...?

    Spoilers concerning something you should know from VLR regarding this ending:
    Remember, Akane and Junpei are alive in the timeline that leads to VLR.
    It's amusing how VLR's timeline isn't the inevitable disaster that they have to prevent that they present it as, but just something that they happened to be unlucky enough to get.

    Mechanical
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Has anybody read the manual? Something strange is going on in it. Not real spoilers, but I will just to be safe.
    On the character pages, they have all the characters, and the name of the VA for both english and japanese. Except... for Carlos, Junpei, and Diana, the english name is instead "Morphogenetic Field Voice #1/2/3.

    I have no idea if that's some deeper meaning that'll pay of, or just a weird way to not credit somebody who doesn't/can't be credited.

    There isn't a manual on the Vita version, unless you mean digital, in which case I should go check.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Out of ideas. No ! nodes on any flow chart, no hints for various passwords I need. Clearly I'm missing one but damned if I know which one I should have access to but overlooked.

    Current dead ends:
    C Force Quit (alpha)
    D Force Quit (obv. Phi's brooch and... ?)
    Q Force Quit/QCR code (numeric)
    Door of Truth (numeric)
    4th Study path (have selected the three obvious choices)

    Everything else is just a cinema leading to either a lock or a ?.

    Are you looking only at the flow chart? There are some disconnected scenes than don't show up on it and are only accessed from the fragments.

    Checked every fragment, checked entire flow chart. Nothing.

    Missing fragments:
    C-Team 4, 5, 8, and 12 (counting across and down from top)
    Q-Team 2 and 5
    D-Team 7

    Non-decision dead ends/incomplete fragments:
    C Suspicion (6/7) -> Q Pop Off -(6/7) > D Door of Truth (3/6) -> 2 locked
    1 locked (from D Fire: Blank->Drink)
    C Anthropic (5/8)
    D Transporter (7/9; "stranded pair")
    1 locked (from D Outbreak)

    And the long string after the FCFS chain, presumably the Force Quit line.

    Have you gone back and gotten all the Execution scenes by changing the votes?

    Yup. The only outstanding Decision Games I have access to are the ones I listed. I've tried everything I can think of short of looking up an actual walkthrough. :(

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Has anybody read the manual? Something strange is going on in it. Not real spoilers, but I will just to be safe.
    On the character pages, they have all the characters, and the name of the VA for both english and japanese. Except... for Carlos, Junpei, and Diana, the english name is instead "Morphogenetic Field Voice #1/2/3.

    I have no idea if that's some deeper meaning that'll pay of, or just a weird way to not credit somebody who doesn't/can't be credited.

    There isn't a manual on the Vita version, unless you mean digital, in which case I should go check.

    Digital, yeah.

    Dunno about Vita, but 3DS version can check that from the home menu.

  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    So I'm cleaning up some loose ends trying to find anything that lets me unlock new fragments, and I think I might have come across a minor plot hole that bugs me (which quite possibly could be explained later).

    Losing the decision-game at the end of C-team control room puzzle.
    So, after C-team dies because they failed the easiest challenge in the game, cut to: Sigma and Diana escape. Neither of them have, as far as I've seen in this timeline, even encountered Radical 6, let alone been infected. GAME OVER.

    Sure it's sad that other people died, but Sigma can tell everyone "Hey folks there's a world ending virus down at this location and I can confirm it by telling you who wins the next 3 superbowls so just fucking trust me and set up a quarantine zone and stay out of it, thanks" and it kinda seems like a bittersweet ending that accomplishes the goal that the major protagonists wanted to accomplish, at the cost of killing some other characters you really like in order to alter the timeline.

    Kinda seems undignified to just end that on a "Game Over".

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    I'm bouncing in order from 'locked endings' to different Teams, which means things are... uh, happening, so far.

    I just have a small gripe, something feels a bit predictable:
    "Team solves puzzle, then TRAGEDY!" But I have faith Uchikoshi can't fall victim to that for long.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Doing some poking around to see if I can find a solution to my problem, I notice that I only have two of the three "execution" icons lit up on the flow chart. Which is weird, because I know for a fact that I did all the votes, but I think I need to correct this somehow.

    EDIT: Yeah, this seems to be the problem. Weird. I thought I was being asked if I had completed the fragments a couple of posts up.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Doing some poking around to see if I can find a solution to my problem, I notice that I only have two of the three "execution" icons lit up on the flow chart. Which is weird, because I know for a fact that I did all the votes, but I think I need to correct this somehow.

    I just solved this problem myself about 30 minutes ago! If you want to know exactly how to do it (sorry, don't know how to phrase any vague hints about it):
    Apparently (and I wouldn't be surprised if this comes into play in the future), traveling laterally through time doesn't change decisions other people make. So, for example, to get the D-team execution scene, I had to make Q and Carlos vote for D-team directly after one another. As in, I went back to Q team, voted for D-team, and nothing happened, Probably because last time I played this "level" of the time tree, I had C-team vote for Q-team, to get that execution ending. I then had to switch back to the C-team vote and change their vote to D-team again in order to get the scene to trigger.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Question about horrible deaths in general:
    Do all of the fragments have alternate beginnings if they're played directly after something nasty happens to the team?

  • P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    it seems like they went full dumb on the story to make up for the fact that it's graphix are bad
    i love it
    i guess spoilers but honestly i am not sure how you talk about this game
    maybe it was just because of the first fragment i chose, but the game instantly got inside of it's own ass in an amazing way. i love it.

    Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    P10 wrote: »
    it seems like they went full dumb on the story to make up for the fact that it's graphix are bad
    i love it
    i guess spoilers but honestly i am not sure how you talk about this game
    maybe it was just because of the first fragment i chose, but the game instantly got inside of it's own ass in an amazing way. i love it.

    This game is thoroughly glorious in the same ways VLR was, you are in for a treat.

    EDIT: Also, luckily you very quickly grow used to the graphics. By the end of it I can say I actually significantly prefer these to VLR's graphics.

    Winky on
  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    Question about horrible deaths in general:
    Do all of the fragments have alternate beginnings if they're played directly after something nasty happens to the team?
    All of the fragments have an actual specific spot on the timeline, you just won't really understand it until you've filled most of them in.

  • djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Gah. this is very much a write-only thread for me; anyway, D-team because Sigma and Phi are the best, Healing room -- minor spoilers and only about that room because it's the only one I've done so far:
    Solved the puzzle, didn't press the button, a long movie played.

    Went back, did press the button, a _much_ shorter movie played.

    I am now all in on this game, because that was _exactly_ what I wanted out of it..

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  • MechanicalMechanical Registered User regular
    I'm laughing like an idiot over the rec room because I just solved a puzzle without finding all the clues for it on a guess.
    Gah. this is very much a write-only thread for me; anyway, D-team because Sigma and Phi are the best, Healing room -- minor spoilers and only about that room because it's the only one I've done so far:
    Solved the puzzle, didn't press the button, a long movie played.

    Went back, did press the button, a _much_ shorter movie played.

    I am now all in on this game, because that was _exactly_ what I wanted out of it..

    All I could think of for that sequence.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Everything is getting crazier. Fun times abound.

    I ate an engineer
  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Oh god.
    Just got through the Transporter room, and I totally have a sheet of paper full of notes from working out the number system by hand.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Question about horrible deaths in general:
    Do all of the fragments have alternate beginnings if they're played directly after something nasty happens to the team?
    All of the fragments have an actual specific spot on the timeline, you just won't really understand it until you've filled most of them in.
    I don't think I've ever seen a flashback to something I haven't seen before, though, and they tend to occur immediately after I see them happen.

    I suspect that seeing bad things happen directly triggers them being shown elsewhere, even if it doesn't actually change anything beyond that.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    P10 wrote: »
    it seems like they went full dumb on the story to make up for the fact that it's graphix are bad
    i love it
    i guess spoilers but honestly i am not sure how you talk about this game
    maybe it was just because of the first fragment i chose, but the game instantly got inside of it's own ass in an amazing way. i love it.

    This game is thoroughly glorious in the same ways VLR was, you are in for a treat.

    EDIT: Also, luckily you very quickly grow used to the graphics. By the end of it I can say I actually significantly prefer these to VLR's graphics.

    The eyes, though.

    Vyolynce
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