Perfectly acceptable, I was just making sure you weren't holding the other games on some pedestal. These should really just be enjoyed for the fun. Nomura knows how to make a great game, but damn he is a shitty writer.
Nomura didn't write it. It was made by the same guy who also was lead writer on such FF classics as Final Fantasy VIII, X, X-2, CRISIS CORE,
motherfucking Advent Children
and Co-Writer on VII
So, basically defines Post-VI writing
And he is currently doing Versus
Edit: He wasn't the Lead writer for the KH spin-offs though. Just for the main series.
So my friend tells me the final boss for this game is a brick wall of frustration and dick-punching - is he accurate, underleveled or does he just not know what he's doing?
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So my friend tells me the final boss for this game is a brick wall of frustration and dick-punching - is he accurate, underleveled or does he just not know what he's doing?
I thought the final boss was really easy. The only bosses I had trouble with were the secret ones. I don't know about the arena though, never did much of that.
So my friend tells me the final boss for this game is a brick wall of frustration and dick-punching - is he accurate, underleveled or does he just not know what he's doing?
The final boss of which story?
Or does he mean the boss of Final Episode?
Because if he means the boss on Final Episode, yeah, sorry to be blunt, but he certainly doesn't know what he's doing. It's really pitifully easy - it's basically the same boss in Terra's final fight, but neutered. Helps that Aqua is broken as fuck - and that an encounter that's hard for Terra becase he has to get close, is easy for Aqua because if you're playing her right you have more ranged firepower than a tank squad of the USA Army.
If he means the secret bosses, they're pretty tough. The only boss in the end-game that I would consider hard is Aqua's penultimate boss, however. He's a bit of a dick. You could just grind a little though, just going through a couple of the arena challenges will boost you a level or two and I'd say around 28-30 is strong enough to take any of them.
Since I'm here and the Mirage Arena has stupefied me (I'm Arena level 12, and now I don't know how to unlock the next match? It says in the reports that the next fight is "Chill" something or other, and it isn't there) I may as well have my say on the story.
First off, I'm glad I finally got an explanation on Roxas. He starts off as a separate person who blows his heart up or whatever, which destroys his memories and goes to live in Sora since Sora apparently saved him after Xehanort forcibly removed his darkness, or whatever he did. Which explains why Roxas doesn't look like Sora, and also why he has no memories, unlike the other Nobodies who remember their past lives. It also explains why he was special and seemed to have a heart. Because he did, obviously. Plus, it explains why Phil and Tinkerbell acted like they knew you in 358/2 Days. They did. Doesn't explain why they didn't seem to mind that you hadn't aged a day (well, Tink is believable in that regard) but hey.
Now, Terra. Terra is stupid. Even in the Command Board he's stupid (seriously, half the time his AI screws up and he just goes around in a circle, ignoring half the check points and start). Maybe that's why he and Eraqus had the father-son relationship going, because he, too, was thick as a brick wall. Yeah Eraqus, let's kill your pupil and not his evil counterpart! That's not even getting into the fact that he knew what Xehanort was doing the entire fucking time. But I was talking about Terra. He just does stupid thing after stupid thing. But his ending threw me for a loop. And I mean the whole thing, from the body snatching to the ending where Aqua simultaneously proves she is the most competent of the three protagonists by kicking his ass, and then throwing that away by saving him via magicking out of her armor and then letting it do all the work.
I still say Aqua is the best of the three, however. She avoids the stupid decisions you would generally expect her to make while pretty much picking up after the other two throughout the entire plot. Plus, triple firaga/blizzaga kick ass.
I also liked Eraqus and Xehanort's VOs.
Wait, lemme add something on Terra since that's wierd, too.
Terra gets fused with Xehanort. Xehanort is defeated by Aqua, and becomes Xehanort (the Heartless from KH1) and Xemnas (the Nobody of KH2), while Terra goes on to be Ansem (or DiZ). That's the way I see it.
Roxas is Sora's nobody and not Ven. However, you are right in saying that Ven is connected to Roxas - it's what gives him the power to dual-wield Keyblades, since Ven's heart went with Roxas after Sora stabbed himself at the end of KH1.
Roxas is Sora's nobody and not Ven. However, you are right in saying that Ven is connected to Roxas - it's what gives him the power to dual-wield Keyblades, since Ven's heart went with Roxas after Sora stabbed himself at the end of KH1.
But... Ven doesn't dual-wield keyblades. Eh, forget it. There's a reason I play this series to jump around with a keyblade rather than pay too much attention to the story.
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Roxas doesn't get the dual Keyblade until he absorbs Xion. He only had one before, so just being part of Sora doesn't cut it as why he'd have two to me. And Ven is definitely Roxas. All the Nobodies state that he's different, that he acts like he has a heart. This is because he does - Ven' heart. All the other Nobodies (except Xion) remember their past lives. Roxas doesn't because he mind-wiped himself. I'm not saying Roxas isn't Sora's Nobody, because he is, I'm saying that Ven's heart is in it and is what is controlling it, rather than sleeping in Sora's Heartless. Some of this is stated outright in 358/2 Days, like all the "he doesn't act like he doesn't have a heart!" shenanigans. If Roxas just looked like Ven, he wouldn't have just acted like a normal Nobody. He also wouldn't have had the Keyblade - see Xemnas. 358/2 Days makes a lot of this clear, I think, its just that you'll probably forget half of the plot between all of the monotony and ice cream.
I realize this seems like more thought on the subject than it really deserves, but I assure you all that I came up with most of this on the spot and feel compelled to make myself clear. I could be wrong, too. This is just what I've taken from it. I also just thought I'd point out that I caught myself misspell the word 'the' like five times in that paragraph.
I'm so glad that I played on Proud & Critical Modes so I wouldn't have to jump through the absurd hoops needed to see the Secret Movie. All I have to say is when??? Tell me when and I'm there!!! There's just something about KH that triggers an unusual giddy streak in me.
As a whole the finale was great, addressing just about every setup we've seen through the entire series in a satisfying way. Occasional Terranort fits aside (even when I was on a roll he still managed to screw me over somehow plenty of times) I was very pleased with the whole thing.
I might try the optional boss fights later, but for now I'll savor the victory. BbS is easily one of, if not THE best, PSP games this year.
Roxas doesn't get the dual Keyblade until he absorbs Xion. He only had one before, so just being part of Sora doesn't cut it as why he'd have two to me. And Ven is definitely Roxas. All the Nobodies state that he's different, that he acts like he has a heart. This is because he does - Ven' heart. All the other Nobodies (except Xion) remember their past lives. Roxas doesn't because he mind-wiped himself. I'm not saying Roxas isn't Sora's Nobody, because he is, I'm saying that Ven's heart is in it and is what is controlling it, rather than sleeping in Sora's Heartless. Some of this is stated outright in 358/2 Days, like all the "he doesn't act like he doesn't have a heart!" shenanigans. If Roxas just looked like Ven, he wouldn't have just acted like a normal Nobody. He also wouldn't have had the Keyblade - see Xemnas. 358/2 Days makes a lot of this clear, I think, its just that you'll probably forget half of the plot between all of the monotony and ice cream.
I realize this seems like more thought on the subject than it really deserves, but I assure you all that I came up with most of this on the spot and feel compelled to make myself clear. I could be wrong, too. This is just what I've taken from it. I also just thought I'd point out that I caught myself misspell the word 'the' like five times in that paragraph.
What you say makes sense, which is why none of it is true.
More seriously, these plot details are revealed in the Ultimania interviews that don't get translated so only the hardcore fans will hunt them down and translate them. According to Nomura, Xion's death 'awakened' the ability to use two Keyblades in Roxas but the reason he can do so at all is because of Ven. Don't ask me what the heck that's supposed to mean because I don't know.
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Random thought: who else thinks that a BBS Versus tourney would be totally fucking rad?
Wait, lemme add something on Terra since that's wierd, too.
Terra gets fused with Xehanort. Xehanort is defeated by Aqua, and becomes Xehanort (the Heartless from KH1) and Xemnas (the Nobody of KH2), while Terra goes on to be Ansem (or DiZ). That's the way I see it.
There was already an Ansem running around when Xehanort fused with Terra, and that Ansem becomes DiZ. The heartless from KH1, when not referred to as "Ansem", is Xehanort's heartless and Xemnas should be considered Xehanort's nobody.
Did the whole "the guy who said he was Ansem in KH1 was just a poser and his real name is Xehanort" plot point of KH2 just completely throw you off?
I'm willing to bet the entire reason the threw in the otherwise pointless 'Bad guy takes name of random good guy and uses that for KH1' thing is because this conversation happened one day.
"Guys, guys. I was thinking about it, and I realized that if we did that naming thing with the other Organization guys - you know, the thing where we rearrange their names and stick an 'X' in somewhere to make it mysterious and-"
"Yes, we know."
"Anyway, look, if we rearrange 'No Heart' and put an 'X' in there, it becomes 'Xehanort!' That's a totally awesome name for the main bad guy, right?"
"But... the main bad guy already has a name. Ansem or something."
"Oh. Okay, that's not his real name anymore. He took it from... someone else. His boss or something."
Wait, lemme add something on Terra since that's wierd, too.
Terra gets fused with Xehanort. Xehanort is defeated by Aqua, and becomes Xehanort (the Heartless from KH1) and Xemnas (the Nobody of KH2), while Terra goes on to be Ansem (or DiZ). That's the way I see it.
There was already an Ansem running around when Xehanort fused with Terra, and that Ansem becomes DiZ. The heartless from KH1, when not referred to as "Ansem", is Xehanort's heartless and Xemnas should be considered Xehanort's nobody.
Did the whole "the guy who said he was Ansem in KH1 was just a poser and his real name is Xehanort" plot point of KH2 just completely throw you off?
Could be, it's been year since I've played the first two games.
Also to Pureauthor, I didnt know there were interviews on the matter. Suppose I was wrong then.
I should really just get all I want to say out at once so I can just not have to edit.
Got this game the other day, starting at Ventus, having a blast so far. The Command Board is very addicting, and is a nice way to level up the skills. So far, most of the enemies haven't been too difficult (even on Proud), though it's still a fun experience.
I'm finding that some of the D-Links aren't all that necessary, but since the gauge is relatively easy to fill up, I use them anyway for the free healing, the added punch and the extra abilities they give you.
Snow White's D-Link seems really nice, with a good variety of attacks, status spells and even healing to boot.
I don't like how Mirage Arena forces you to do all of the minigames AND get 9,999 medals. I don't know what's worse, the Castle Course or grinding for the next ~4,000 superfluous medals.
Allright, I'm about to get my hands on BBS, I just want to make sure I've got the general over-arching gist of things, just so I know what plot threads to be watching.
We've got the ol' bald bastard of a Keyblade master, Xehanort. He wants to pull an Orochimaru style gambit, produces a whole bunch of convoluted bullshit and outside people playing on the various actions that make up the plot of BBS proper. He effectively succeeds in the core of his plan, though, producing a Terra-body with Xehanort's Mind / Heart. Terranort eventually winds up getting his memories a bit fucked up, and winds up diving into Darkness research under Ansem, steals the big man's name, and we get Xemnas and the Seeker of Darkness.
And then Sora kicks everyone's ass forever.
Terra's heart and body fuses with Xehanort. Terra's mind goes into his armor.
This is where it gets confusing.
In the secret ending, you see Terra talking with Xehanort. That is his HEART. Along with Eraqus. Terra's MIND, or more specifically, will, is still in his armor at the keyblade graveyard.
After getting the shit kicked the hell out of him by Aqua, Xehanort(In Terra's body, with Terra's and Eraqus's heart) loses his memory. Takes on the name of Ansem(Not to be confused with Ansem the Wise, evil genius/Walt Disney).
Sora kicks the shit out of him in KH1.
Sora then proceeds to kick the shit out of his nobody in KH2.
His heartless I believe has yet to be adressed(Unless I am remembering wrong and you kicked the shit out of that one in KH1).
I assume when all is said and done in KH3 You first find Aqua, then find Ven's body(To reunite his heart, with it, which Sora's carrying) in Aqua's badass supercastle, then find Terra's mind in the Keyblade graveyard, then final epic fight with Xehanort's heartless/Xehanort depending how I'm remembering KH1 for all the marbles i.e. captain dumba...I mean Terra.
See, I kind of get all that, but whats bugging me... Master Xehanort is presented as a very freaking MAJOR badass. And Vanitas, too, judging by the fanart reaction to him. (Just from some 4chan threads DONT YOU DARE JUDGE ME ).
So why is it that the Terranort Heartless (KH1 Ansem, I just call him the Seeker of Darkness out of habit, he keeps calling himself that, and its so much easier than getting caught up in the Whos on First clusterfuck) and said dude's Nobody, Xemnas, are both... Well, obviously dangerous badass movers and shakers, but presented as well below the threat / power level of MX? Also, well, frankly, isnt the lingering threat that he was producing dealt with by Sora trashing SoD and Xemnas both?
He's a badass, however, remember, Terra's armor beat him one on one, and Aqua also kicked the shit out of him.
However I assume several decades hiding out in the darkness is going to make the united Xehanort a real pain in the ass when you finally find him.
I imagine he found a way to separate both his heartless and his Nobody from himself. How, I have no idea, but I'm sure it'll be explained.
The most telling fact that the real Xehanort is still around is neither "Ansem" nor Xenmas used a keyblade, while the original is still a keyblade wielder, with goddamn two keyblade wielder hearts inside of him.
In any case, I'm finding that grinding commands and such is like crack. I can't stop. I've completely stopped the story around the Stitch world and I'm just playing the arena now nonstop.
I hadn't died in the arena since I first started the arena on a different character before the rank 30 challenge killed me. In the older Iron Imprisoner fights I had actually relied on counters to do some damage and build up my Focus gauge, but in this one that's just not going to cut it because they do so much damage that getting stuck in a counter is basically a death sentence.
The other bosses are pretty easy though. It's just Iron Imprisoner III/IV that really make it tough, but boy do they make it tough.
I thought Kingdom Hearts 3DS was just a sort of remake of the events of the original from a different perspective.
You're thinking of RE:CODED, a cellphone port that just came out in Japan (and where the video from last page came from) and a game that's going to come out in the US early next year.
It's a virtual reality version of various KH events played by Mickey. I shit you not.
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Nomura didn't write it. It was made by the same guy who also was lead writer on such FF classics as Final Fantasy VIII, X, X-2, CRISIS CORE,
motherfucking Advent Children
and Co-Writer on VII
So, basically defines Post-VI writing
And he is currently doing Versus
Edit: He wasn't the Lead writer for the KH spin-offs though. Just for the main series.
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I thought the final boss was really easy. The only bosses I had trouble with were the secret ones. I don't know about the arena though, never did much of that.
But yeah, the special bosses are something different entirely.
The final boss of which story?
Or does he mean the boss of Final Episode?
Because if he means the boss on Final Episode, yeah, sorry to be blunt, but he certainly doesn't know what he's doing. It's really pitifully easy - it's basically the same boss in Terra's final fight, but neutered. Helps that Aqua is broken as fuck - and that an encounter that's hard for Terra becase he has to get close, is easy for Aqua because if you're playing her right you have more ranged firepower than a tank squad of the USA Army.
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Now, Terra. Terra is stupid. Even in the Command Board he's stupid (seriously, half the time his AI screws up and he just goes around in a circle, ignoring half the check points and start). Maybe that's why he and Eraqus had the father-son relationship going, because he, too, was thick as a brick wall. Yeah Eraqus, let's kill your pupil and not his evil counterpart! That's not even getting into the fact that he knew what Xehanort was doing the entire fucking time. But I was talking about Terra. He just does stupid thing after stupid thing. But his ending threw me for a loop. And I mean the whole thing, from the body snatching to the ending where Aqua simultaneously proves she is the most competent of the three protagonists by kicking his ass, and then throwing that away by saving him via magicking out of her armor and then letting it do all the work.
I still say Aqua is the best of the three, however. She avoids the stupid decisions you would generally expect her to make while pretty much picking up after the other two throughout the entire plot. Plus, triple firaga/blizzaga kick ass.
I also liked Eraqus and Xehanort's VOs.
Wait, lemme add something on Terra since that's wierd, too.
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I realize this seems like more thought on the subject than it really deserves, but I assure you all that I came up with most of this on the spot and feel compelled to make myself clear. I could be wrong, too. This is just what I've taken from it. I also just thought I'd point out that I caught myself misspell the word 'the' like five times in that paragraph.
As a whole the finale was great, addressing just about every setup we've seen through the entire series in a satisfying way. Occasional Terranort fits aside (even when I was on a roll he still managed to screw me over somehow plenty of times) I was very pleased with the whole thing.
More seriously, these plot details are revealed in the Ultimania interviews that don't get translated so only the hardcore fans will hunt them down and translate them. According to Nomura, Xion's death 'awakened' the ability to use two Keyblades in Roxas but the reason he can do so at all is because of Ven. Don't ask me what the heck that's supposed to mean because I don't know.
Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
Did the whole "the guy who said he was Ansem in KH1 was just a poser and his real name is Xehanort" plot point of KH2 just completely throw you off?
"Guys, guys. I was thinking about it, and I realized that if we did that naming thing with the other Organization guys - you know, the thing where we rearrange their names and stick an 'X' in somewhere to make it mysterious and-"
"Yes, we know."
"Anyway, look, if we rearrange 'No Heart' and put an 'X' in there, it becomes 'Xehanort!' That's a totally awesome name for the main bad guy, right?"
"But... the main bad guy already has a name. Ansem or something."
"Oh. Okay, that's not his real name anymore. He took it from... someone else. His boss or something."
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Could be, it's been year since I've played the first two games.
Also to Pureauthor, I didnt know there were interviews on the matter. Suppose I was wrong then.
I should really just get all I want to say out at once so I can just not have to edit.
I'm finding that some of the D-Links aren't all that necessary, but since the gauge is relatively easy to fill up, I use them anyway for the free healing, the added punch and the extra abilities they give you.
We've got the ol' bald bastard of a Keyblade master, Xehanort. He wants to pull an Orochimaru style gambit, produces a whole bunch of convoluted bullshit and outside people playing on the various actions that make up the plot of BBS proper. He effectively succeeds in the core of his plan, though, producing a Terra-body with Xehanort's Mind / Heart. Terranort eventually winds up getting his memories a bit fucked up, and winds up diving into Darkness research under Ansem, steals the big man's name, and we get Xemnas and the Seeker of Darkness.
And then Sora kicks everyone's ass forever.
Terra's heart and body fuses with Xehanort. Terra's mind goes into his armor.
This is where it gets confusing.
In the secret ending, you see Terra talking with Xehanort. That is his HEART. Along with Eraqus. Terra's MIND, or more specifically, will, is still in his armor at the keyblade graveyard.
After getting the shit kicked the hell out of him by Aqua, Xehanort(In Terra's body, with Terra's and Eraqus's heart) loses his memory. Takes on the name of Ansem(Not to be confused with Ansem the Wise, evil genius/Walt Disney).
Sora kicks the shit out of him in KH1.
Sora then proceeds to kick the shit out of his nobody in KH2.
His heartless I believe has yet to be adressed(Unless I am remembering wrong and you kicked the shit out of that one in KH1).
I assume when all is said and done in KH3 You first find Aqua, then find Ven's body(To reunite his heart, with it, which Sora's carrying) in Aqua's badass supercastle, then find Terra's mind in the Keyblade graveyard, then final epic fight with Xehanort's heartless/Xehanort depending how I'm remembering KH1 for all the marbles i.e. captain dumba...I mean Terra.
So why is it that the Terranort Heartless (KH1 Ansem, I just call him the Seeker of Darkness out of habit, he keeps calling himself that, and its so much easier than getting caught up in the Whos on First clusterfuck) and said dude's Nobody, Xemnas, are both... Well, obviously dangerous badass movers and shakers, but presented as well below the threat / power level of MX? Also, well, frankly, isnt the lingering threat that he was producing dealt with by Sora trashing SoD and Xemnas both?
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However I assume several decades hiding out in the darkness is going to make the united Xehanort a real pain in the ass when you finally find him.
I imagine he found a way to separate both his heartless and his Nobody from himself. How, I have no idea, but I'm sure it'll be explained.
The most telling fact that the real Xehanort is still around is neither "Ansem" nor Xenmas used a keyblade, while the original is still a keyblade wielder, with goddamn two keyblade wielder hearts inside of him.
In any case, I'm finding that grinding commands and such is like crack. I can't stop. I've completely stopped the story around the Stitch world and I'm just playing the arena now nonstop.
The other bosses are pretty easy though. It's just Iron Imprisoner III/IV that really make it tough, but boy do they make it tough.
Its Arrancar versus Visored all over again.
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You're thinking of RE:CODED, a cellphone port that just came out in Japan (and where the video from last page came from) and a game that's going to come out in the US early next year.
It's a virtual reality version of various KH events played by Mickey. I shit you not.