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  • CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tken wrote: »
    Olorin wrote: »
    Tken wrote: »
    iowa wrote: »
    people will get used to stopping the 5rr.

    you can pretty much just throw up a precaution bunker which guys enough time to ward it off. if it doesnt come you salvage and take a minimal set back

    sentries stop it did of course

    I don't understand why people think that a bunker would help. They only have 50 more health than a supply depot, so they don't help much in maintaining your wall, and all the roaches are for is to take down that wall. Then 20+ speedlings stream in, completely ignoring anything near the bunker because they can.

    If the bunker doesn't reinforce your wall, and it actually detracts from the army you could have to defend, how does it help you at all?

    So are you trying to argue that the 5rr is 100% unstoppable by terran? B/c if so, it should prolly be nerfed, dotcha think?
    Unless I'm mistaken, a bunker is large enough that SCVs repairing it from the far side are out of range of the roaches at the front.

    Actually I think I just mentioned something about a bunker.
    Unless I'm mistaken, bunkers are large enough that SCVs repairing from the far side are out of range of roaches at the front.

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  • walnutmonwalnutmon Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    when are they going to release this patch, playing against terran has just become a joke, now that people are just abusing marauder drops all over, it's not even fun anymore

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    walnutmon wrote: »
    when are they going to release this patch, playing against terran has just become a joke, now that people are just abusing marauder drops all over, it's not even fun anymore

    On a Tuesday in the next 2 weeks. Most likely anyway.

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  • TkenTken post-CSL January 2012 Partycraft 6th Place Winner Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tken wrote: »
    Olorin wrote: »
    Tken wrote: »
    iowa wrote: »
    people will get used to stopping the 5rr.

    you can pretty much just throw up a precaution bunker which guys enough time to ward it off. if it doesnt come you salvage and take a minimal set back

    sentries stop it did of course

    I don't understand why people think that a bunker would help. They only have 50 more health than a supply depot, so they don't help much in maintaining your wall, and all the roaches are for is to take down that wall. Then 20+ speedlings stream in, completely ignoring anything near the bunker because they can.

    If the bunker doesn't reinforce your wall, and it actually detracts from the army you could have to defend, how does it help you at all?

    So are you trying to argue that the 5rr is 100% unstoppable by terran? B/c if so, it should prolly be nerfed, dotcha think?
    Unless I'm mistaken, a bunker is large enough that SCVs repairing it from the far side are out of range of the roaches at the front.

    Actually I think I just mentioned something about a bunker.
    Unless I'm mistaken, bunkers are large enough that SCVs repairing from the far side are out of range of roaches at the front.

    This is true, but it's also true of a factory and barracks wall off, which is impregnable without repairs and doesn't cost anything extra. I wasn't trying to say that Terran has no way to stop this rush, but rather that a bunker isn't the most logical answer. It takes 7-8 seconds for 5 roaches to kill one, so you're gonna want to be pretty quick with pulling those SCVs to repair it.

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Like with any game, that's why you should be scouting and have something nearby the enemy so you can see what's coming and when, so you can at least try to be prepared for it. Don't count on your enemies always playing in the dark.

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So who is going to participate in this Day9 Funday Monday nonsense? Zerg with no queens! Can it be done?

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Your first homework assignment is to get in a fight... and lose.

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  • eeSanGeeSanG I slice like a goddamn hammer. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Play like SC:BW.

    Hatch, Pool, Lair, Spire, 3rd Hatch in main. If you spot them moving out with an early push, make 5~7 Spine Crawlers.

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  • TkenTken post-CSL January 2012 Partycraft 6th Place Winner Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    What is this Funday Monday nonsense? I cannot watch the stream right now due to my internet being poopy.

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tken wrote: »
    What is this Funday Monday nonsense? I cannot watch the stream right now due to my internet being poopy.

    Not tomorrow, but the following Monday day9 wants to do something called Funday Monday. The challenge for now is to play zerg without any queens. He wants replays of that sent to day9fundaymonday@gmail.com (I think).

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    TheStig wrote: »
    Your first homework assignment is to get in a fight... and lose.

    It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.

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  • TkenTken post-CSL January 2012 Partycraft 6th Place Winner Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    exoplasm wrote: »
    Tken wrote: »
    What is this Funday Monday nonsense? I cannot watch the stream right now due to my internet being poopy.

    Not tomorrow, but the following Monday day9 wants to do something called Funday Monday. The challenge for now is to play zerg without any queens. He wants replays of that sent to day9fundaymonday@gmail.com (I think).

    Ooooh, interesting. Thanks for the info.

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tken wrote: »
    exoplasm wrote: »
    Tken wrote: »
    What is this Funday Monday nonsense? I cannot watch the stream right now due to my internet being poopy.

    Not tomorrow, but the following Monday day9 wants to do something called Funday Monday. The challenge for now is to play zerg without any queens. He wants replays of that sent to day9fundaymonday@gmail.com (I think).

    Ooooh, interesting. Thanks for the info.

    Oh, also, kind of important: The subject must say Funday Monday or it won't be read I think.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I need a gif of day9 doing the roach crawl, stat.

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  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I dislocated my shoulder today. =*(

    Vicodin will effect my gameplay for the better/worse.

    I'm such a nerd that on the way to the ER to get it put back in I was thinking "Oh god, It's broke and I'm going to be in some dumb cast that won't allow me to play SC2 well and I will lose all my upcomming tourney matches. woe is me"

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Funday Monday sounds awesome. Zerg without Queens could open up many different thought processes and build orders previously unheard of....or it could be a huge failure.

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  • TrusTrus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
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    Decent game on Blistering Sands. I still need to make more drones (I had over 1200 gas at one point but no minerals), take my 3rd/4th faster and stop being so stupid early game.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I kind of want to do the make 4 nexuses before making any units

    i mean your mineral income would be so insane if he doesn't press early

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    He's gonna so regret the two sentences thing when people start using semi colons and conjunctions to make them as long as paragraphs.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'll just send him a no punctuation wall of text.

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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    He's gonna so regret the two sentences thing when people start using semi colons and conjunctions to make them as long as paragraphs.
    are you under the presumption that he's forced to read them or something

    "delete! next..."

    watching those videos, even on x8, is going to be a ton of work

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    walnutmon wrote: »
    when are they going to release this patch, playing against terran has just become a joke, now that people are just abusing marauder drops all over, it's not even fun anymore

    How do you abuse marauder drops?

    Do you mean people are dropping marauders as a tactic often, or is there a glitch or something involved?

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    YAY! I got called a cheeser for my Nydus rush, thats what I was looking for, especially because im terrible at it....I usually dont respond to flying crap around the map for nothing, but I couldn't help it this time..

    Thanks again for the earlier tips, its improving, still weak but getting better..

    Oh and I made a friend on the game from this board (Collosus, Im talking about YOU), thanks for the practice games, I probably shouldnt have Nydus Wormed you, but it was rad to have someone friendly to play with...

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    marauders won't be changing

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    playing with no queens sounds terrible, not fun

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I actually have a no queen build in mind that may be decent.

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  • Metal Gear Solid 2 DemoMetal Gear Solid 2 Demo Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I don't understand what game-changing strategy you could have with just that extra 150 minerals, it's not like the queen is restricting any kind of normal BOs or anything, nor does it take up any larva or anything when being built

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    that's not the point enders, I think it's just meant to be fun, see what happens when you don't do something that everyone takes for granted.

    of course you should take it for granted, but again that's not the point.

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, my Nydus rush fails to a 4/6/8 gate protoss rush, maybe really tight it could be close, but it in bronze, it fails...

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    uh, no queens is pretty hardmode for zerg.

    You basically have no AA until t2, but you can probably expand faster. You also lose about, what, 50% production from each hatch? Also can't spread creep as easily without tumors.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So Im trying to come up with a Thor rush that basically hits the opponent with a handful of baracks units, a thor and a tank with 6 scvs. So far it has yet to really fail, but I mess it up sometimes and lose.

    Ive accidently led my SVCs ahead and gotten them killed, ive accidently walked close to an edge i couldnt see up to and gotten all my support units shot and killed. Basically micro mishaps. Aside from that, it seems to work quite well.

    Basically you do a 1-1-1 build but instead of the starport you throw down an armory. While the thor is building you get siege for your one tank and then once the thor is done you move out.

    Im having issues connecting to gamereplays.org so Ill post replays sometime tomorrow. So far it seems a bit crazy good. Even with me sucking with macroing during it, its effective. Terran seems to be the only real trouble if they turtle with siege but even then you have your own siege and can scan/siege to take out the 1 or 2 tanks they may have.

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  • YannYann Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So there is a honest to god ZvZ on GSL today. I can not remember the last time I saw a ZvZ in a tournament. In fact I may have never seen one.

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