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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I cannot wait for the patch to land, I almost always play in PUGs and really am tired of the exploiters.

    At some point MS needs to get thier crap together about the patches. Having a drawn out post-release patch process does not reduce bugs in released games. It is stupid to have a digital distribution platform and make people wait months for simple patches. Uber could eliminate 90% of the glitches with simple fixes. However, because of the title update process they have to assemble 3 months worth of updates into one large ball. The end result is that assasin glitchers get another couple months to douche it up.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Reach was inevitably going to be a big black hole for a large amount of people, but that doesn't mean MNC is dead, not by a long shot. Hopefully the patch comes out soon, too.

    I'd be trying to get some games in, but I have barely enough time to play anything as it is at the moment.

    Everyone who is playing reach and on my friends list from the meta tag are traitors. Instead of going support I will now be the assassin that goes 1-1-25.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Reach was inevitably going to be a big black hole for a large amount of people, but that doesn't mean MNC is dead, not by a long shot. Hopefully the patch comes out soon, too.

    I'd be trying to get some games in, but I have barely enough time to play anything as it is at the moment.

    Everyone who is playing reach and on my friends list from the meta tag are traitors. Instead of going support I will now be the assassin that goes 1-1-25.

    And if there are already two assassins on my team, I will become an assassin as well. Although I am apparently way better than you. I go 1-0-15.


    Has anyone played as an all-assassin team? Did you win?

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    enderjsvenderjsv Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Reach was inevitably going to be a big black hole for a large amount of people, but that doesn't mean MNC is dead, not by a long shot. Hopefully the patch comes out soon, too.

    I'd be trying to get some games in, but I have barely enough time to play anything as it is at the moment.

    Everyone who is playing reach and on my friends list from the meta tag are traitors. Instead of going support I will now be the assassin that goes 1-1-25.

    And if there are already two assassins on my team, I will become an assassin as well. Although I am apparently way better than you. I go 1-0-15.


    Has anyone played as an all-assassin team? Did you win?

    No, but someone was saying earlier that he and his friends had played an all support team and managed to win in like 4 minutes.

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    SamuraiGattsSamuraiGatts Bearded Bully Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Reach was inevitably going to be a big black hole for a large amount of people, but that doesn't mean MNC is dead, not by a long shot. Hopefully the patch comes out soon, too.

    I'd be trying to get some games in, but I have barely enough time to play anything as it is at the moment.

    Everyone who is playing reach and on my friends list from the meta tag are traitors. Instead of going support I will now be the assassin that goes 1-1-25.

    And if there are already two assassins on my team, I will become an assassin as well. Although I am apparently way better than you. I go 1-0-15.


    Has anyone played as an all-assassin team? Did you win?


    We had a PA party win a game as all assassin. It was gold rate of fire shuriken awesomeness.

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Conversely, I have fought an almost all-Assassin team and, well, they weren't very good. They kinda needed a team member who could fire bullets.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    enderjsv wrote: »
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Reach was inevitably going to be a big black hole for a large amount of people, but that doesn't mean MNC is dead, not by a long shot. Hopefully the patch comes out soon, too.

    I'd be trying to get some games in, but I have barely enough time to play anything as it is at the moment.

    Everyone who is playing reach and on my friends list from the meta tag are traitors. Instead of going support I will now be the assassin that goes 1-1-25.

    And if there are already two assassins on my team, I will become an assassin as well. Although I am apparently way better than you. I go 1-0-15.


    Has anyone played as an all-assassin team? Did you win?

    We've done all assasin and won as a PA group, and an all support team that won in what seemed like 30 seconds

    No, but someone was saying earlier that he and his friends had played an all support team and managed to win in like 4 minutes.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    People should be playing, like right now.

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    stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Maybe I'll hop on tonight and play with some of you dudes. I miss it a lot and I plan on not purchasing reach for quite a few weeks.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Such a cheap win.

    The Hotshots totally controlled Ammo Mule (I think.) Snipers on each of the side bridges and a Gunner up top of the central kiosk. Assaults and Spies constantly harried and kept the Iceman locked into the base, unable to really keep any turrets up for any length of time. It was beautiful in a way.

    Then they lost to a Juice Rush in overtime.

    I assume, I was too busy trying to keep our damn base together, I actually had to check the score board before I believed we'd won.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OT is definitely a little odd in this game. I kind of wish whatever team had the most life on their ball just won when the 15 minutes was up, only going to OT if there is an exact tie between the life of the money balls.

    Of course, I guess that could promote a team just barely hurting the other teams money ball and then turtling up for the rest of the match, which would be lame.

    I still feel that getting to OT is only really an issue when the team that is winning isn't properly pressing their advantage.

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    enderjsvenderjsv Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I like overtime, but it'll be better when they release the patch that makes juice less effective against the ball.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Getting to overtime is such a relief when you are on the losing team. You have no turrets, weak bots and you are getting dominated in the midfield BUT you are one juice rush away from winning the match. I kind of like how OT works, but I like lane clearing aspects of the game more than the solo juicing. So I wont complain when they patch it next month.

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    enderjsvenderjsv Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Getting to overtime is such a relief when you are on the losing team. You have no turrets, weak bots and you are getting dominated in the midfield BUT you are one juice rush away from winning the match. I kind of like how OT works, but I like lane clearing aspects of the game more than the solo juicing. So I wont complain when they patch it next month.

    Exactly. That's why overtime sucks now, because no matter how far ahead you are, if the other team can juice rush you and you can't, it's over. Once they patch that, juice will still matter, but I think having two level 3 rocket turrets at your base will matter more.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I really wish Overtime wasn't the stupid "Shield Drop" bullshit.

    I want a horde, a veritable sea of robots to spawn. I want those bot garages to never stop spewing bots. I was queues of angry metal warriors seeking to punish the ball for the sin of existence.

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I really wish Overtime wasn't the stupid "Shield Drop" bullshit.

    I want a horde, a veritable sea of robots to spawn. I want those bot garages to never stop spewing bots. I was queues of angry metal warriors seeking to punish the ball for the sin of existence.

    That would be so awesome, as long as there was still some way to get your pro through the sea of bots. (ie: Not every bot is a Jackbot XL)

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    enderjsv wrote: »
    Getting to overtime is such a relief when you are on the losing team. You have no turrets, weak bots and you are getting dominated in the midfield BUT you are one juice rush away from winning the match. I kind of like how OT works, but I like lane clearing aspects of the game more than the solo juicing. So I wont complain when they patch it next month.

    Exactly. That's why overtime sucks now, because no matter how far ahead you are, if the other team can juice rush you and you can't, it's over. Once they patch that, juice will still matter, but I think having two level 3 rocket turrets at your base will matter more.

    Reposted from previous thread:

    I consistently play Sniper and have never lost to an overtime juice rush since I started doing the following:
    1) Place freeze traps in each entrance (one on each side and one on the front-high) around my moneyball and grapple juicers when they hit the traps. Juice rushes never pay attention to anything while running into the base and almost always trigger the juice right as they round the divider enclosing the ball. Thats where the traps go. Then I either just let the traps drain their juice or I knock them out of range with the sniper grapple. With traps upgraded to level 3 you can cover every entrance to your ball in your base.

    2) Keep a view of the Juice dispensers and headshot any enemy pros while they are buying juice. (LOVE this one.) Alternatively, if your base is defended well by another Sniper, then place your freeze traps right next to each of the juice dispensers. When they hit the trap, they will either be forced to waste their newly bought juice to prevent the headshot or die by headshot.


    Basically, I never go on the offensive during overtime (let the Gunners, Tanks, and Assassins do that) as a Sniper but instead stay back and frustrate their attempts to Juice our ball. I always keep an eye on the time and 30 seconds before overtime hits I start setting up my defense.

    Have yet to lose more than 1/4 health on our ball when playing defensively as a Sniper in OT.

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    Garret DoriganGarret Dorigan "Why can't I be DLC for UMvC3?"Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I really wish Overtime wasn't the stupid "Shield Drop" bullshit.

    I want a horde, a veritable sea of robots to spawn. I want those bot garages to never stop spewing bots. I was queues of angry metal warriors seeking to punish the ball for the sin of existence.

    That would be so awesome, as long as there was still some way to get your pro through the sea of bots. (ie: Not every bot is a Jackbot XL)

    25 overhealed slims, every five seconds. Call it Skynet mode.

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    Mr PinkMr Pink I got cats for youRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I really wish Overtime wasn't the stupid "Shield Drop" bullshit.

    I want a horde, a veritable sea of robots to spawn. I want those bot garages to never stop spewing bots. I was queues of angry metal warriors seeking to punish the ball for the sin of existence.

    That would be so awesome, as long as there was still some way to get your pro through the sea of bots. (ie: Not every bot is a Jackbot XL)

    25 overhealed slims, every five seconds. Call it Skynet mode.

    I approve of this idea.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, depending on my class I also go pure defense during OT. Tanks aren't quite as good at is as snipers (no freezing traps) but tanks do pretty much have the best non-skill grapple in the game for stalling juicers.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    25 overhealed slims, every five seconds. Call it Skynet mode.

    Good idea for sure, but it would drop the frame-rate.

    25 buzzers every 5 seconds locust storm would be awesome. Assuming they fix the buzzer's terrible logic. Still have the same frame-rate issues though. The jackbots seem like a workaround in this respect. They are easy on the graphics but put a lot of bot HP and firepower on the map.

    Maybe they could just double the number of bots that you purchase in OT.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Anyone up for playing Right Now? Send me an invite.


    What is this Halo Reach thing all my friends are playing? Is it like MNC?

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Anyone up for playing Right Now? Send me an invite.


    What is this Halo Reach thing all my friends are playing? Is it like MNC?

    I want the FPS genre and it's industry to die and stay dead. I stopped playing gun games a year ago.

    Such a death will be slow and painful, like the anime industry.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I like the horde of robots idea best.

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    urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

    Could you be perhaps more descriptive in what you are not enjoying about the game? If you were, we could perhaps give you some advice on perhaps enjoying your $15 investment a little more?

    Not much we can do with just a big blob of negativity though.

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

    Alright, let me break this down. You:

    -Insult everyone here by essentially saying you are right for hating this game and we are wrong for liking it.
    -Never actually played with us but determined that it wouldn't matter anyway.
    -Never specified the issues you were having, like Inq mentioned.
    -Believe that we give a crap about people 'holding us back' as opposed to having fun.

    Am I on track?

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So anyone been pugging it lately? Curious how games have been? Haven't touched it since Halo:reach came out. Logged on a few times, checked friends lists and meta tags, saw everyone was playing Halo. So been playing NHL11.

    Just curios if only the glitchers are left, or if now when you pug you get good games.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tommatt wrote: »
    So anyone been pugging it lately? Curious how games have been? Haven't touched it since Halo:reach came out. Logged on a few times, checked friends lists and meta tags, saw everyone was playing Halo. So been playing NHL11.

    Just curios if only the glitchers are left, or if now when you pug you get good games.

    I pugged it last night. I noticed that there were significantly less shenanigans than other times. Some assassin jumped on top of our spawn building in one of the games, but it seemed pretty easy to do with the smoke jump.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tommatt wrote: »
    So anyone been pugging it lately? Curious how games have been? Haven't touched it since Halo:reach came out. Logged on a few times, checked friends lists and meta tags, saw everyone was playing Halo. So been playing NHL11.

    Just curios if only the glitchers are left, or if now when you pug you get good games.

    Between work and trying to juggle the recent releases I picked up (Not Reach, ironically) I haven't had a chance to sit down and play this much, but I'll probably try to hop on sometime this week or weekend and see if I can't get a few games in.

    Really, I think right now the patch would make me much more inclined to play, though.

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    ironzergironzerg Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

    Learning curve? Took me a couple nights of playing before I finally started to "get it".

    And we all appreciate you dropping by the thread to insult everyone one last time before leaving. :^:

    Stay classy.

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    TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    ironzerg wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

    Learning curve? Took me a couple nights of playing before I finally started to "get it".

    And we all appreciate you dropping by the thread to insult everyone one last time before leaving. :^:

    Stay classy.

    Learning curve? My buddy who had never played a FPS online in his life split screened with me as the tank. I told him to push a lane, not kill players. Thats all he did, push, die, respwan, die.... He was MVP a couple of times. Its simple, if you can kill a pro go for it, but if not, pus the lane.

    He used the grenade, rail gun, and jet gun only, and owned.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

    No, it's a pretty good game, you just don't like it. You shouldn't confuse these two different concepts.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So playing support is a lot of fun when you have pushed your lanes close to their base. It is not at all fun when you are getting turtled. I think I am done playing support with PUGS. Too much to think about. I like assault, grenade bots from afar and grapple pros that are close.

    Anyone playing tonight? urahonkey?

    I think this game is only really fun to play when you have a party. Otherwise you get 4 assassins and 2 supports on a team. Also, don't worry about holding anyone back, I will let you be assault. Nobody expects anything from assault.

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    urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Yeah... Tried again. The game really does suck and I don't think I'll be playing it ever again. I wish I could resell it somehow. I'd rather get my $15 back. Sorry guys. I know you orgasm over a game like this, but I'd much rather play TF2 or some other good game. I don't see how playing with you guys would change anything because I'd just be holding you back.

    Alright, let me break this down. You:

    -Insult everyone here by essentially saying you are right for hating this game and we are wrong for liking it.
    -Never actually played with us but determined that it wouldn't matter anyway.
    -Never specified the issues you were having, like Inq mentioned.
    -Believe that we give a crap about people 'holding us back' as opposed to having fun.

    Am I on track?

    4. This is more of my issue than the PA folks'. I hate being a terrible player at games and I feel like I absolutely fucking suck ass so hard at this game.

    I realize it's probably more fun with you guys, but I also played co-op locally with a friend last night who was also not having any fun with it. It's not the learning curve it's just I don't feel like I'm "doing" anything when playing the game. Almost every time I play I get to a map where the other team has us pinned down in our spawn area. As soon as you step out of the respawn, jump down, walk to the left or right... You die, and it repeats itself.

    Last night this happened. So I switched to assassin, and put one point into Cloak, and two into Assassin (to get the sword). Cloaked and heading back in their base... Tried to backstab a Support, who promptly whooped the fucking shit out of me right afterward. Retried that again, and he did the same. So I decided to head to the Snipers that were pinning us down. Again, backstab, but he somehow survived and a Gunner shot me down.

    So I switch to Assault, and wouldn't you know it? I get backstabbed/killed as soon as I jump down.

    That was definitely a stress post last night. If I didn't type that I would have probably murdered someone. But yeah I realize that you guys might like it but I just can't try anymore... I deleted the game off my HDD to keep me from being tempted. Each time I play the game I end up exactly how I felt last night.

    I'm sorry that I had passively-aggressively insulted everyone here. May your life bring much bacon and shotgun shells.

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    wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Assassin is probably the worst class to use when you're just starting out. It's a really hard class to play without good knowledge of the maps, how to approach attacking each class, and when/where to strike.

    Assault is an ok starting class but I think he's kind of weak before you can set custom endorsements on him.

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    urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    My assault had be customed with crit shots, more ammo, and faster reloading I think.

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    wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Try improving firing rate with him. Skill recharge is fun, too, if you like getting ring-outs.

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    T0MBERENGERT0MBERENGER Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    My assault had be customed with crit shots, more ammo, and faster reloading I think.

    Yeah,
    It is really pretty difficult to truly suck at this game. Most likely you have unrealistic expectations about performance and you play with PUGs.

    My two favorite assault classes are (Use grenades to kill bots and defend yourself with charge and assault rifle)

    Tank: (push up and be more aggressive with pros)
    Gold Armor
    Silver Health Regen
    Bronze Extra clip size

    Mortar: (throw grenades down the lane from a safe distance)
    Gold ROF
    Silver Accuracy
    Bronze Extra clip size

    I think that Hip clip is the best bronze since it gives a 40% bonus. More bang for the buck.

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    urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah I guess you're right. But see I'm a terribly sore loser, and every single time I play this game my team loses. It gets really frustrating when the other team steam rolls ours and immediately wins. Which happens more often than not.

    I'll give it another shot eventually... But right now I think I need to avoid online games as the PUGs in them are absolutely fucking awful.

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