The only problem with DMC4 is the reused content and bosses. Holy fuck did they reuse bosses. It was still a good game despite this. But it's definitely the biggest negative.
That's kind of what DMC does, though. You get rematches with the bosses. At least this time had you fighting them as different characters.
Compared to DMC1 which only had 4 bosses aside from the final one, but made you fight each one 2-3 times.
DMC3 had less rematches but you still fought Vergil 3 times (and Jester three times as well in the Special Edition). I think the giant worm boss was in there a few times too. Plus the mirror world or whatever where you boss rushed Mega Man style.
Dante's overconfident one-liners is what got me. Remember this one?
"Flock off feather face! Or you can stick around and find out the hard way."
That overwhelming confidence and attitude is what makes Dante likable. It's part of the characters charm. If they take that away, he's not Dante anymore.
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I don't really give a shit about DMC, but I find this whole situation hilarious. Especially since Capcom had their own little backlash against Western developers, and then they go and hand off one of their prime modern franchises to fucking Ninja Theory, whose claim to fame is making a launch game that looked really pretty, and I guess some people thought was sort of okay.
P.S. it was actually horrible
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All creature will die and all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai.
How the fuck did anyone think this was a good idea? Good god. Take a note from Bioware and listen to the fans. It works. The fans did not want this.
Listening to the fans is all well and good, but don't just do what your fans tell you. People don't know what they want. Sometimes they need to be told what they want before they want it.
Ninja Theory director Tameem Antoniades takes the stage. "We're taking a younger Dante" that incorporates the youth culture of today, from fashion to music to street art, etc.
"THIS GUY ISN"T DANTE, DANTE WAS AWESOME."
"DANTE WAS STUPID ANIME BULLSHIT YOU"RE STUPID AND FUCK YOU"
"You guys are all stupid this game could be cool."
"Why the fuck is Ninja Theory getting this game?"
Oh goddamnit
Why didn't they just make it a different series? It would have prevented all of this backlash and more people would actually look forward to it. That whip thing actually looks sorta interesting.
Pfff. At least there's still a dude named Dante and he's supposedly going to shoot up and kill a bunch of shit and still looks absolutely ridiculous. If they turned it into a turn-based game starring Chav McDoofenstein in the Victorian era where you fight a bunch of watercolor blobs, then maybe.
But god damn it sometimes shit needs to get a bit mixed up! Sometimes you gotta just throw out all that old shit and try something new, even if it fails!
And if it sucks real bad, then they'll just make another game and pretend this one didn't happen. That's standard operating procedure in video games
I really don't get how anyone can think this design is "generic" either, at least when it comes to video games
We haven't had a thin, lanky, British druggie for a protagonist in an action game like... ever
Pfff. At least there's still a dude named Dante and he's supposedly going to shoot up and kill a bunch of shit and still looks absolutely ridiculous. If they turned it into a turn-based game starring Chav McDoofenstein in the Victorian era where you fight a bunch of watercolor blobs, then maybe.
This ain't got shit on XCOM.
Don't give them ideas.
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Soooo yeah. I'll have to agree with the sentiment that whoever this new guy is, he's not Dante. Dante was about being a walking parody of every action cliche in the book. Yeah his design was nothing amazing and incredibly unique, but that felt like half the point. What made him standout was his attitude and the fact he was having so much fun doing all the stupid shit he did. It was hard not to grin with him. Obviously that doesn't come across with this new guy.
I am for developers trying out new stuff, however, and honestly a burnt out British punk rock druggie in a fucked up Eurotrash setting could be interesting. Hell they could have fun with some interesting game mechanics; shooting up and taking out a bunch of enemies but always watching a meter before you burn yourself out and become a limp noodle. Instead of just spamming and creating endless combos you have to be a bit more strategic when taking out enemies and knowing what moves and abilities you will use. The setting and character sounds one of a kind as well.
But that isn't Dante or Devil May Cry. Don't tag a franchise name and character on to something else, and expect us to treat it like the next installment of the series. Honestly if Capcom liked what Ninja was doing they should have just financed this as some new franchise. It could have been interesting. This just makes it feel like some marketing bullshit.
There are just some things you don't mess with. You wouldn't take away Mario's moustache or whimsical attitude, Samus' powered suit (even other M got this much right), or make Sonic anything other than blue and fast.
Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
And now that I look at it a little closer, he bears a closer resemblance to Starkiller from Force Unleashed than my favorite quip-spitting, over-the-top, demon-slayer.
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Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
NotDante is wearing Nero's coat. Why? I have no idea.
Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
NotDante is wearing Nero's coat. Why? I have no idea.
But Nero's coat was long with a hood. This one is shorter with a weird flappy thing on the back.
Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
NotDante is wearing Nero's coat. Why? I have no idea.
But Nero's coat was long with a hood. This one is shorter with a weird flappy thing on the back.
Have you gotten the impression that accuracy to the source material is a core design tenet here?
Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
NotDante is wearing Nero's coat. Why? I have no idea.
But Nero's coat was long with a hood. This one is shorter with a weird flappy thing on the back.
Have you gotten the impression that accuracy to the source material is a core design tenet here?
Mostly I just wanted to point out the flappy thing. I mean look at it! It's so dumb!
Guys. It is a reboot. That means they don't have to give a shit about what anybody liked about the original series. They can also make it not being what anybody liked about the original game completely OK by explaining it with stupid retcons that nobody gives a shit about. There could be some stupid reason for Dante being a serious and assholish British developer instead of either a serious yet mostly badass demon hunter guy who gets stabbed with a sword and reacts like it ain't no thang or a joking yet badass guy.
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Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
NotDante is wearing Nero's coat. Why? I have no idea.
But Nero's coat was long with a hood. This one is shorter with a weird flappy thing on the back.
Have you gotten the impression that accuracy to the source material is a core design tenet here?
Mostly I just wanted to point out the flappy thing. I mean look at it! It's so dumb!
There could be some stupid reason for Dante being a serious and assholish British developer instead of either a serious yet mostly badass demon hunter guy or a joking yet badass guy.
Was this a mistake? Because now that I think about it, Dante turning out to actually be the president of Ninja whatever in-game would be hilarious as hell.
1) Dante looks dumb.
2) There is no need for a reboot, I loved DMC4 and would like a sequel.
3) I don't trust Ninja Theory to this right at all.
4) Pretty sure Dante wasn't british.
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That's kind of what DMC does, though. You get rematches with the bosses. At least this time had you fighting them as different characters.
Compared to DMC1 which only had 4 bosses aside from the final one, but made you fight each one 2-3 times.
DMC3 had less rematches but you still fought Vergil 3 times (and Jester three times as well in the Special Edition). I think the giant worm boss was in there a few times too. Plus the mirror world or whatever where you boss rushed Mega Man style.
Exactly. Let me give you an example of a line from DMC2.
".............."
*Walks away*
Whoaaaaa, I better not go knockin while that party van is rockin!
"Flock off feather face! Or you can stick around and find out the hard way."
That overwhelming confidence and attitude is what makes Dante likable. It's part of the characters charm. If they take that away, he's not Dante anymore.
Battlenet ID: MildC#11186 - If I'm in the game, send me an invite at anytime and I'll play.
P.S. it was actually horrible
Exactly which is why the game you mentioned doesn't exist
HAHAHAHAHAH
Eh, Capcom had a terrible version of one of their big franchises. It's almost company policy to have at least one of those per blockbuster franchise.
Listening to the fans is all well and good, but don't just do what your fans tell you. People don't know what they want. Sometimes they need to be told what they want before they want it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfCRCFKNc-Y
"THIS GUY ISN"T DANTE, DANTE WAS AWESOME."
"DANTE WAS STUPID ANIME BULLSHIT YOU"RE STUPID AND FUCK YOU"
"You guys are all stupid this game could be cool."
"Why the fuck is Ninja Theory getting this game?"
Oh goddamnit
Why didn't they just make it a different series? It would have prevented all of this backlash and more people would actually look forward to it. That whip thing actually looks sorta interesting.
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Watch out! It's that one guy!
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It's not that bad. At least it's still in the same genre.
You are so mean.
Pfff. At least there's still a dude named Dante and he's supposedly going to shoot up and kill a bunch of shit and still looks absolutely ridiculous. If they turned it into a turn-based game starring Chav McDoofenstein in the Victorian era where you fight a bunch of watercolor blobs, then maybe.
This ain't got shit on XCOM.
There is a reason for this.
Don't give them ideas.
I am for developers trying out new stuff, however, and honestly a burnt out British punk rock druggie in a fucked up Eurotrash setting could be interesting. Hell they could have fun with some interesting game mechanics; shooting up and taking out a bunch of enemies but always watching a meter before you burn yourself out and become a limp noodle. Instead of just spamming and creating endless combos you have to be a bit more strategic when taking out enemies and knowing what moves and abilities you will use. The setting and character sounds one of a kind as well.
But that isn't Dante or Devil May Cry. Don't tag a franchise name and character on to something else, and expect us to treat it like the next installment of the series. Honestly if Capcom liked what Ninja was doing they should have just financed this as some new franchise. It could have been interesting. This just makes it feel like some marketing bullshit.
And then theres...
Just... Wow.
Really, Dante is missing two things that make him who he is--the attitude and the red coat. I could give a shit about the hair, but his coat is RED. Damnit.
And now that I look at it a little closer, he bears a closer resemblance to Starkiller from Force Unleashed than my favorite quip-spitting, over-the-top, demon-slayer.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
But Nero's coat was long with a hood. This one is shorter with a weird flappy thing on the back.
GET OUT.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
I think YOU should get out. It was the best one. I'd gladly take an upgrade/remake of 3.
Mostly I just wanted to point out the flappy thing. I mean look at it! It's so dumb!
Also, this.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Sarcasm on the internet, very hard to read sometimes.
Was this a mistake? Because now that I think about it, Dante turning out to actually be the president of Ninja whatever in-game would be hilarious as hell.
Let's just hope they don't do the same with Godhand, good lordy.
I still like this scene.
2) There is no need for a reboot, I loved DMC4 and would like a sequel.
3) I don't trust Ninja Theory to this right at all.
4) Pretty sure Dante wasn't british.
How depressing.