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Disgaea 4 (and Asagi) hit common sense with massive damage [US Summer 2011!]

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Cave Story 3DS is probably a must buy.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    So, is Sept. 6th the official release date now?

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    blaze_zero wrote:
    So, is Sept. 6th the official release date now?

    Unless you preordered it, if so, you'll get it around Tuesday - Thursday.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Kirbith wrote:
    I've got the charge pending on my bank account now too. Also have $5 to spend on NIS now, probably going to wait a bit on that though. I don't know what they have coming out other than D4 that I'm interested in, might have to wait til Disgaea 3 on Vita.


    Atelier Totori!

  • KirbithKirbith I appear to be made of delicious cake. Registered User regular
    No Cave Story 3DS for me - don't have a 3DS and don't plan on getting one. And you know somehow I've managed to never play any of the games in the Atelier series.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    That's no excuse.

  • LCDXXLCDXX A flask of wood and glass Terre Haute, INRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    So now I'm getting a little perplexed. NIS still hasn't processed my preorder. Is anyone else still hanging in limbo?

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  • KirbithKirbith I appear to be made of delicious cake. Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    My charge has been processed through my bank just fine now and my order is shipping. Could be that they're doing orders based upon how far things have to go distance wise? Since I think shipping is just USPS ground and where I live is quite a ways from where NIS is in California. Also of note: I just checked on their website and my order still says pending fulfillment even though it's already shipping. So yea, I wouldn't say that status means much.

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  • LCDXXLCDXX A flask of wood and glass Terre Haute, INRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Heh. It did hit my credit card. Just now got an alert - it hit at the end of the business day yesterday. I don't have an email from NIS, though, so I can't say if it shipped out or not.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    So I recently purchased all the DLC for Disgaea 2 which I stopped playing at some point and also Disgaea 3 and all the DLC for Disgaea 3.

    I now remember why I stopped playing Disgaea 2. I kind of dislike it. I dislike the characters. I dislike the story. It's pretty annoying.

    Is there any good reason I should finish it before I play Disgaea 3? I mean, Disgaea 4 is coming out in like a week, right?

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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    Can I be super psyched for this? I'm super psyched for this. I even put down a reserve at my local Game Stop, something I would normally find morally reprehensible (but I don't trust these hillbilly heathens to properly stock this game).

    I'd take a day off of work for my first day's play if I didn't know I'm gonna end up putting 200 hours into the stupid thing anyway. =)

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    My $120 figure set should be on the way. :D

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I don't think they're actually shipping them, just billing for them. That's what the email I got said, anyway.

  • LCDXXLCDXX A flask of wood and glass Terre Haute, INRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2011
    I still haven't received an email, but the charge definitely hit my debit card. Not sure what's up with that.

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  • BastableBastable Registered User regular
    I'm pre ordering the NZ special edition, it'll be the same as other countries special editions just brought with NZ dollars in New Zealand.
    I love me some prinnies, the only one I am missing is Disgaea 2. We'll see if PSN drops the price on the PSP version.

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Definitely picking this up. Trying to figure out my party composition in advance, how many of the story characters I'm going to use...

    Is there some non pain the ass way to level support classes in these games? Even if I have them team attack with one f my heavy hitters or try to finish off an enemy with like 50 health with whatever measly attack they have, they'll just never level as fast or as naturally as say a ninja or a samurai or something. Why even bother with them if that's the case?

    Is it better to just focus on characters that simply are useful instead of constantly pampering and trying to grind ones that are useless?

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    Support classes get exp for using healing and support spells. Although they get it determined on the number of allies hit with the spell. Otherwise, try and use a skill to net a kill; those tend to do enough damage to finish any enemy at 1/3 health or so.

    Also, later on, you can just make a character a certain class with the spells you want, learn all of them, and then reincarnate them as a better class. They will still retain all of their spells. That makes it easy enough to get everyone with a good crowd clearing grind spell (like big bang) and the major healing spells + espoir. You can also make a decent dedicated healer and buff specialist that's not in a paper-made class like Idol.

  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote:
    Cave Story is probably a must download from the internet for free.

    Fix'd.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Woo, I got my copy being shipped to me from NISAmerica! I hope I get it soon.
    On that note, does anyone want a $5 off coupon for NIS America's website? I don't think I'll be using it anytime soon.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I'm starting to wonder if the inclusion of a map creation system isn't going to be completely broken as fuck. Unless it's limited to start, or uses some sort of unlocking system, then whats stopping me from creating my own custom farming maps right at the start? Historically COO4 is the ultimate exp map, but it's always post game, and behind some pretty high level maps, so it's still a grind to even get to it. But now, I'll be able to create my own, only even more tweaked out. Stack a few more +exp geos, some -def to soften them up. Hell, maybe completely surround them with a no entry geo, and then put in an invincibility square, so I don't have to worry about dying if I don't kill them in one hit. Shit, take it to the next level even, no more of these 3x3 maps that are racist to any weapon other than fists and swords, make a layout for each specific weapon and their unique attacks!

    It's gotta be limited to start, right. I would absolutely love to be able to do all that right out of the box, but I can't imagine they'd let you blatantly cheat like that when you're just starting out.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I'm starting to wonder if the inclusion of a map creation system isn't going to be completely broken as fuck. Unless it's limited to start, or uses some sort of unlocking system, then whats stopping me from creating my own custom farming maps right at the start? Historically COO4 is the ultimate exp map, but it's always post game, and behind some pretty high level maps, so it's still a grind to even get to it. But now, I'll be able to create my own, only even more tweaked out. Stack a few more +exp geos, some -def to soften them up. Hell, maybe completely surround them with a no entry geo, and then put in an invincibility square, so I don't have to worry about dying if I don't kill them in one hit. Shit, take it to the next level even, no more of these 3x3 maps that are racist to any weapon other than fists and swords, make a layout for each specific weapon and their unique attacks!

    It's gotta be limited to start, right. I would absolutely love to be able to do all that right out of the box, but I can't imagine they'd let you blatantly cheat like that when you're just starting out.

    So I'm playing Disgaea 2 on the PSP right now.

    And...thanks to the DLC (all DLC characters are level 100 and the first character is a "free" character that doesn't require a battle to unlock) I had CoO4 unlocked before I even finished chapter 2 in the story in my first cycle.

    I'm not sure what "post game" means anymore. :P

    Hell, I'm not even using Adell. My main character right now is Almaz.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Mine is marked "Pending Fulfillment." The money has went through. They said all preorders would ship by Saturday.... Hm. Very odd.

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    It seems like they've cut down on classes a bit too, no? Less male/female variants, no martial artist class, etc. Am I imagining it, or is there also none of that red/blue/green mage nonsense, so one mage (whether it's a boy or a girl) can learn all the smells without having to reincarnate a billion times?

    If so, I welcome slimming things down a bit, though I will miss the boob ninja.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote:
    Mine is marked "Pending Fulfillment." The money has went through. They said all preorders would ship by Saturday.... Hm. Very odd.

    no, they said orders would start shipping no later then the 29th.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    It seems like they've cut down on classes a bit too, no? Less male/female variants, no martial artist class, etc. Am I imagining it, or is there also none of that red/blue/green mage nonsense, so one mage (whether it's a boy or a girl) can learn all the smells without having to reincarnate a billion times?

    If so, I welcome slimming things down a bit, though I will miss the boob ninja.

    You unlock that class by buying Kyoko as DLC. Which i will be doing immediately on release.

    Some of the new classes introduced in D3 aren't returning either, which is weird.

  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I don't think I've ever used even 10% of all the classes available in any game. And I've never even touched the monster classes.

    D3 post game is the most ridiculous of all, especially if you include DLC. My class is almost completely filled with story characters, Diaz gentlemen, and DLC characters. The roster is overflowing as it is, I've got no need for generics.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    Generics are great though.

    Also, with magichange, giant magichange, and monster fusion, using monster classes is actually pretty beneficial now.

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    Magichange was useless in 3

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, I'm not saying they're useless or anything. They do get to learn the best weapon skills, and have some great evilties.

    Just saying that when it comes between choosing to use a Gunslinger or Asagi... well Asagi is winning every single time. :)

    And funnily enough, this will probably be the first game where I might actually seriously use a prinny. Speaking of which, I wonder if Fuka will count as one when it comes to using a Prinny Day bill...

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I thought the idea behind story characters is well...they're good for getting through the story--you could use only them and you'd be fine. But if you really want to get into the nuts and bolts of the system and really customize all your fighters to be exactly the team you want, then running with mostly generics and maybe the main character is more ideal.

    No?

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I thought the idea behind story characters is well...they're good for getting through the story--you could use only them and you'd be fine. But if you really want to get into the nuts and bolts of the system and really customize all your fighters to be exactly the team you want, then running with mostly generics and maybe the main character is more ideal.

    No?

    I suppose in the sense that it's infinitely easier to tweak and customize generics via reincarnation. If you want a skill, you can just reincarnate into that class and get it, no fuss no muss. You can still transfer skills to story characters, it's just a lot more work. Like in 3 where you had to do it via the class world, which didn't even bloody show up half the time.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    I believe they cut down on generics so they can sell them as DLC packs.

    Still, they have a curvy android-girl (gynoid?). What more do you want, people?

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    hmmm, if that's the case

    then boo

    boo urns

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Woo, I got my copy being shipped to me from NISAmerica! I hope I get it soon.
    On that note, does anyone want a $5 off coupon for NIS America's website? I don't think I'll be using it anytime soon.

    Sure, I can use it towards D4. I think.

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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    I probably won't be able to get it until the 9th due to lack of funds (not that it would matter, anyway, with my constant work days going on from the 6th through the 9th).

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Got my shipping notice just now. Woot.

    I'm guessing Thursday / Friday arrival.

  • kyleh613kyleh613 Registered User regular
    There's like 35 - 40 classes included as is in Disgaea 4; so i'm not worried about the DLC characters. I figure I can justify it once I get all of the included characters to level 9999. :p

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote:
    Got my shipping notice just now. Woot.

    I'm guessing Thursday / Friday arrival.

    man, they billed me well over a week ago and still haven't shipped it.

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote:
    KiTA wrote:
    Got my shipping notice just now. Woot.

    I'm guessing Thursday / Friday arrival.

    man, they billed me well over a week ago and still haven't shipped it.

    I get the impression from all the emails and whatnot that they got an absolutely silly amount of preorders and are just a bit swamped. My UPS tracking number still says that it's just a theoretical one and they haven't given UPS the package yet.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote:
    Magic Pink wrote:
    KiTA wrote:
    Got my shipping notice just now. Woot.

    I'm guessing Thursday / Friday arrival.

    man, they billed me well over a week ago and still haven't shipped it.

    I get the impression from all the emails and whatnot that they got an absolutely silly amount of preorders and are just a bit swamped. My UPS tracking number still says that it's just a theoretical one and they haven't given UPS the package yet.

    UPS tracking numbers always say that tho.

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