I love how Suzie's just "HOLY CRAP!" And is that supposed to be Ramona there? I don't remember her being so tan. Anyway, Our Hero's about to rock some Imp face now! HAHAHA!
Bah, Chapter 8 was a total pain. Firstly, screw status effects. They screwed me up on multiple occasions. Next, screw that tank in front of my base. Also, it took me a while to figure out where to go to get Welkin and Alicia reunited with the rest of the squad. Everything leveled off after that, but geez.
MVPs were Hector for actually being able to kill that damn first tank when Yoko got hit with attack down, Catherine "One-shot" O'Hara for generally awesome sniping, Aika and Vyse for being Aika and Vyse, and Dallas "Nobody Hurts Ms. Alicia!" Wyatt for surprisingly good aim and support when bunkered down with Edy.
Bah, Chapter 8 was a total pain. Firstly, screw status effects. They screwed me up on multiple occasions. Next, screw that tank in front of my base. Also, it took me a while to figure out where to go to get Welkin and Alicia reunited with the rest of the squad. Everything leveled off after that, but geez.
MVPs were Hector for actually being able to kill that damn first tank when Yoko got hit with attack down, Catherine "One-shot" O'Hara for generally awesome sniping, Aika and Vyse for being Aika and Vyse, and Dallas "Nobody Hurts Ms. Alicia!" Wyatt for surprisingly good aim and support when bunkered down with Edy.
Bah. I hate you guys. Every time this thread gets bumped I have hope. And then it's always dashed when it turns out to be posts about gameplay, rather than localization.
As the years wear on, the likelihood gets smaller and smaller. Unless Shahid Ahmad lights a fire under somebody's ass (and I expect he'd be more interested in Vita-native games), I doubt it's gonna' happen.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
edited July 2013
The fan translation patch is still happening. They post an update every 1-3 months.
E: I wonder if Sega will see an uptick in sales the month the patch comes out. Food for thought I guess. Probably not by much.
Ugggh, Chapter 11's been a nightmare even when I'm doing things right. Any pointers on how to help clean out the last stretch of enemies at their base camp? I can position troops right outside of it, but they wind up getting hammered by all the inevetable Elite Trooper reinforcements, and I take it tanks won't reach that far. Something along the lines of smart use of the smoke rounds and sniper fire while trying to cause as much AOE damage as possible with grenades/Lancers?
All right, so I finish Chapter 11 in suitably epic fashion. I'm deep into the enemy's base, two tanks staring me in the face, so I fire a Hail Mary smoke round into the area to give everybody cover while I think of a plan. I notice that I can slip around one of the buildings, sending Alicia there to investigate and almost take down the enemy Ace Trooper with Undodgeable Shot. He incaps her, though, and I left Aika in the middle of the two turrets outside the base, leaving Rosie, Vyse and Largo left. I send Rosie to save Alicia and finish off the Ace with a grenade (dodge THAT, jackass!), and Vyse to try and grenade at least one of the sandbag bunkers the last two guys near the flag are using for cover. After that I smoked the trooper with one turn, then realized I needed more explosives to take the second bunker down - so I send Largo in, launch a rocket at it, and it's a direct hit, with both Vyse and Rosie team attacking simultaneously but not killing the guy (lousy Attack Down debuff. . .).
Two turns left. One was used to kill the last enemy standing with Vyse (in typical heroic fashion), but he and Rosie out of AP. The only unit left who could possibly reach the cap zone is Largo. . . and he just barely makes the save for me. Mission accomplished, Rank B.
Finally finished the first game last night. Goddamn, this is up there with The Last of Us for making getting a PS3 worth it. I can't get enough of the music, and I loved the WW2-with-a-hint-of-magic world.
The sequals are on the PSP right? ... Is the vita backwards compatable? If it is, I might have to get one.
Finally finished the first game last night. Goddamn, this is up there with The Last of Us for making getting a PS3 worth it. I can't get enough of the music, and I loved the WW2-with-a-hint-of-magic world.
The sequals are on the PSP right? ... Is the vita backwards compatable? If it is, I might have to get one.
IIRC, Vita is BC, provided you're buying digital downloads from PSN. Conveniently, VC II and its DLC mission back can both be acquired there. VC III you're probably out of luck though, since it's never been released outside of Japan.
Finally finished the first game last night. Goddamn, this is up there with The Last of Us for making getting a PS3 worth it. I can't get enough of the music, and I loved the WW2-with-a-hint-of-magic world.
The sequals are on the PSP right? ... Is the vita backwards compatable? If it is, I might have to get one.
IIRC, Vita is BC, provided you're buying digital downloads from PSN. Conveniently, VC II and its DLC mission back can both be acquired there. VC III you're probably out of luck though, since it's never been released outside of Japan.
Finally finished the first game last night. Goddamn, this is up there with The Last of Us for making getting a PS3 worth it. I can't get enough of the music, and I loved the WW2-with-a-hint-of-magic world.
The sequals are on the PSP right? ... Is the vita backwards compatable? If it is, I might have to get one.
IIRC, Vita is BC, provided you're buying digital downloads from PSN. Conveniently, VC II and its DLC mission back can both be acquired there. VC III you're probably out of luck though, since it's never been released outside of Japan.
Oh goddamnit.
I feel ya. Right now I'm playing Project X Zone featuring VC3's Kurt, Riela and Imca, and I really wish I could get my hands on the game. Too bad Sega went into dire financial straits around that time and didn't think it profitable to continue localizing VC.
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
Honest question: has anyone actually played VC3, either because you read/speak fluent Japanese or because you just said "fuck it" and figured it out as you went along?
Honest question: has anyone actually played VC3, either because you read/speak fluent Japanese or because you just said "fuck it" and figured it out as you went along?
Played like, liked the story, liked the gameplay. Not as great as VC1, cause the first one is always the best, but better than the schoolyard drama that was VC2.
I didn't mind the high school bs, but I did start VC2 just after finishing Persona 3 Portable...
I felt that VC2 high school bit was even more shallow/bs considering the superior depiction in the Persona series.
Sort of like how VC was impressive with it's depiction of themes of tension between "conscripts" and professional soldiers, genocide and racism; VC2 seems to have been based on the dim realisation that high school settings is pretty popular and maybe we can sell more by including it.
Bastable on
Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
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NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
Definitely. I mean, they could have done a lot more with it what with being Military Academy Students and doing both drills and actual combat missions, plus the later twist that you probably see coming a mile away. Unfortunately we instead get teen angst and a pool episode... :?
The thing that frustrates me with two isn't so much the high-school setting (aside from the pool scene), but that so many of the characters just feel like flat, two-dimensional tropes created for a checklist.
Massive guy who's really gentle and shy? - Got it.
Stuck-up pretty girl who learns an important lesson? - Yup.
Trap? - Of course.
Obnoxious "Ladies Man"? - Why even ask.
Rich kid who ran away to join the military? - Sigh.
Incest pair, conveniently unrelated by blood? - Gotta have them.
Granted, you can't have deep stories for everyone, it's not like VC1 did either, and there are a few characters who are better than just paper cut-outs for trope bait, but still, there's been a few side missions where if I didn't absolutely love this series, I probably would have just put my PSP down and said "Next."
Welp, I'm officially at the point where I'm running skirmishes to at least get my Scouts and Shocktroopers up to speed with the enemy Elites (Scouts just class-upped). Chapter 12 shouldn't be difficult in theory, but those damn snipers don't help, and I should probably try to use both the Eidelweiss and Shamrock to pound the tanks in the center of the town square, but there's the trick - how do I keep everybody from getting sniped in the meantime other than staying behind the tanks? Some fresh perspective might help tomorrow, but I'm done for now.
You don't need tanks to take on tanks. Getting a scout or stormtrooper behind an enemy tank and giving them a Damage-Up order (I can't remember the exact terms, haven't played VC1 in a couple years) will let them pound the tank in the weak point, usually killing in a single turn and allowing your tanks to suppress the enemy infantry. I also remember taking that mission really slow the first time and moving people around the back to deal with snipers slowly.
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NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
There's also lancers.
Nothing sweeter then aiming for that blue glowing engine block with at ~20% chance to hit from long range, with the knowledge that if it hits, the tank is gone and you can rush to the flag and if you miss, your scouts are dead.
Honest question: has anyone actually played VC3, either because you read/speak fluent Japanese or because you just said "fuck it" and figured it out as you went along?
The Valkyria Chronicles series turned me into the total video game hipster I am today.
Man, the localization of the games is why I love VC. It's also the reason I'm reluctant to just play a fan translated copy of 3. I don't really want to go back to all those voiced battle clips being moonspeak sound effects.
The Wolfman on
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Man, the localization of the games is why I love VC. It's also the reason I'm reluctant to just play a fan translated copy of 3. I don't really want to go back to all those voiced battle clips being moonspeak sound effects.
VC2 didn't have Japanese voices, though, and that's what encouraged me to make the switch.
Finally finished the first game last night. Goddamn, this is up there with The Last of Us for making getting a PS3 worth it. I can't get enough of the music, and I loved the WW2-with-a-hint-of-magic world.
The sequals are on the PSP right? ... Is the vita backwards compatable? If it is, I might have to get one.
I know I'm in the minority on the forum, especially on this thread since anyone who agrees with me has moved on. However... be prepared to be highly disappointed with VC2. VC1 is a game that simply doesn't transfer well onto portables, so too many sacrifices were made to make it fit. The lovely penciled textures are gone, the maps are tiny and broken up into 3-6 mini-maps, the game limits you to only 6 or 7 people on the map at once, the class upgrade system is bogged down by almost completely random ribbons and certificates that EVERY character has to grind shamelessly for, and you only get one tank.
This is to say nothing for how much utter JRPG government cheese the story and characters are. Every JRPG cliche is there, your Valkyria is a 12-year-old in a chainmail bikini with a whip, the mood whiplash in the game is palpable. And one of the worst tropes in JRPGs in my mind is alive and well in VC2, the MC in the game is dumber than a sack of hammers and almost utterly unlikable. If you can get VC2 for cheap and try it out, then go for it... but unless you are REALLY numb to the most tired of JRPG cliches, this game will slowly unnerve you.
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NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
edited September 2013
I agree in that it could have scaled well, but they didn't seem to make that much of an effort.
The small mini-zones are very frustrating when coupled with the limited personnel you're allowed to use.
Class upgrade was a nice idea, until you have to start grinding for specific merits to upgrade to a specific class. And the merits are random drops.
It seems like for every good idea, there's 3 wrong ways to execute it.
EDIT: Also apparently they recycled the hell out of the maps between 2 and 3 but at least with the "suicide squad" idea, the smaller group fits.
It's not the grinding for specific merits to upgrade classes in 2 that really makes me crazy, it's the resource grinding for specific weapons.
Sure merit drops are randomly allocated, but at least you can easily look at missions and figure out which ones to run. OTOH, if you want to make a rifle but you're missing two of resource X, you're just going to have to keep trying missions within several month grouping until you find one that gives you what you need.
Chapter 12 done, and it was just a matter of keeping to the right until all the snipers around the plaza were taken care of, courtesy of Miss Catherine. Yeah, it was just a long leapfrogging ordeal, but it did the trick, didn't even care about the D rank.
Okay, most epic Largo moment so far: Chapter 13, storming the enemy base along with Vyse, Aika, and Edy. He already managed to heavily injure one of the two troopers coming off the hill with a good lance shot, allowing Aika to finish him with a rifle grenade. After neutralizing most of the enemies around the perimeter, I get Largo ready to try and attack the heavy tank. Veggie-maniac triggers, and I move him with just enough AP to make it near the back of the tank. I aim carefully at the radiator, fire, and BOOOOOM! Tank's down. On the enemy's turn, he shrugs off attacks on him like the proverbial boss. Next turn, Largo blasts another trooper and I make it behind one of the buildings with only a sliver of HP left. Cue the rest of the team dismantling the rest of the troops around the flag, with Miss Alicia coming from behind after traversing that long mined stretch to eradicate the last guy and cap for the win. B-Rank, big grin.
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Goddamnit, Sega.
Found it!
EDIT: Woah, that's big.
It's kind of like an All-Star game.
Learn it.
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MVPs were Hector for actually being able to kill that damn first tank when Yoko got hit with attack down, Catherine "One-shot" O'Hara for generally awesome sniping, Aika and Vyse for being Aika and Vyse, and Dallas "Nobody Hurts Ms. Alicia!" Wyatt for surprisingly good aim and support when bunkered down with Edy.
Wait, I'm not supposed to let Alicia get hit?
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E: I wonder if Sega will see an uptick in sales the month the patch comes out. Food for thought I guess. Probably not by much.
Two turns left. One was used to kill the last enemy standing with Vyse (in typical heroic fashion), but he and Rosie out of AP. The only unit left who could possibly reach the cap zone is Largo. . . and he just barely makes the save for me. Mission accomplished, Rank B.
Goddamn, this game!
The sequals are on the PSP right? ... Is the vita backwards compatable? If it is, I might have to get one.
IIRC, Vita is BC, provided you're buying digital downloads from PSN. Conveniently, VC II and its DLC mission back can both be acquired there. VC III you're probably out of luck though, since it's never been released outside of Japan.
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Oh goddamnit.
Played like, liked the story, liked the gameplay. Not as great as VC1, cause the first one is always the best, but better than the schoolyard drama that was VC2.
I felt that VC2 high school bit was even more shallow/bs considering the superior depiction in the Persona series.
Sort of like how VC was impressive with it's depiction of themes of tension between "conscripts" and professional soldiers, genocide and racism; VC2 seems to have been based on the dim realisation that high school settings is pretty popular and maybe we can sell more by including it.
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
Stuck-up pretty girl who learns an important lesson? - Yup.
Trap? - Of course.
Obnoxious "Ladies Man"? - Why even ask.
Rich kid who ran away to join the military? - Sigh.
Incest pair, conveniently unrelated by blood? - Gotta have them.
Granted, you can't have deep stories for everyone, it's not like VC1 did either, and there are a few characters who are better than just paper cut-outs for trope bait, but still, there's been a few side missions where if I didn't absolutely love this series, I probably would have just put my PSP down and said "Next."
Contributing writer at Marooner's Rock
Twitch broadcasting! Currently playing through Wing Commander II
Pinny Lanyard
Nothing sweeter then aiming for that blue glowing engine block with at ~20% chance to hit from long range, with the knowledge that if it hits, the tank is gone and you can rush to the flag and if you miss, your scouts are dead.
The Valkyria Chronicles series turned me into the total video game hipster I am today.
"I only play games in their original Japanese."
PSN: astronautcowboy 3DS: 5343-8146-1833
I have Sega, Nintendo and Xbox games and systems for sale. Please help me buy diapers.
Vyse and Aika randomly join your squadron, and they are OP as fuck. Fina is hidden.
VC2 didn't have Japanese voices, though, and that's what encouraged me to make the switch.
PSN: astronautcowboy 3DS: 5343-8146-1833
I have Sega, Nintendo and Xbox games and systems for sale. Please help me buy diapers.
I know I'm in the minority on the forum, especially on this thread since anyone who agrees with me has moved on. However... be prepared to be highly disappointed with VC2. VC1 is a game that simply doesn't transfer well onto portables, so too many sacrifices were made to make it fit. The lovely penciled textures are gone, the maps are tiny and broken up into 3-6 mini-maps, the game limits you to only 6 or 7 people on the map at once, the class upgrade system is bogged down by almost completely random ribbons and certificates that EVERY character has to grind shamelessly for, and you only get one tank.
This is to say nothing for how much utter JRPG government cheese the story and characters are. Every JRPG cliche is there, your Valkyria is a 12-year-old in a chainmail bikini with a whip, the mood whiplash in the game is palpable. And one of the worst tropes in JRPGs in my mind is alive and well in VC2, the MC in the game is dumber than a sack of hammers and almost utterly unlikable. If you can get VC2 for cheap and try it out, then go for it... but unless you are REALLY numb to the most tired of JRPG cliches, this game will slowly unnerve you.
The small mini-zones are very frustrating when coupled with the limited personnel you're allowed to use.
Class upgrade was a nice idea, until you have to start grinding for specific merits to upgrade to a specific class. And the merits are random drops.
It seems like for every good idea, there's 3 wrong ways to execute it.
EDIT: Also apparently they recycled the hell out of the maps between 2 and 3 but at least with the "suicide squad" idea, the smaller group fits.
Sure merit drops are randomly allocated, but at least you can easily look at missions and figure out which ones to run. OTOH, if you want to make a rifle but you're missing two of resource X, you're just going to have to keep trying missions within several month grouping until you find one that gives you what you need.
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Twitch broadcasting! Currently playing through Wing Commander II
Pinny Lanyard
Now, what's a dormant sega ip that would fit well with atlus' sensibilities as a video game developer?
Oh!
I know this one!
Space Channel 5
Man, why would you even post something so ridiculous in this thread?
Obviously we're getting an Alex Kidd revival.