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[This Old Wang] 02 How to restore tarnished silver

fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
edited September 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
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I might come back with additional edits to the OP as I have new things that need painted or fixed in my new place.


01 ROOM PAINTED!
So I have been in my new place since the beginning of the month and I'm still in the process of face-lifting a lot of it.

House in general:
Brown hardwood floors.

The living room will be beige on 3 walls with dark blue on the wall above the fireplace & shelves.

My kitchen is mostly done and looks good - pale blue with white trim and the cupboard doors will be beige once they go back up.

Room in question:
I painted the dining room what I thought would be a like a nice gray-green mossy color and it came out fucking horribly ugly - way too dark, almost like an army green. Tomorrow I'm going to buy some primer and a new color to go over it.

What should I get?


Photoshoot! Adorable cat!
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My phone doesn't take great pics and the lighting in the room makes the walls look lighter than they are, plus there is the whole screen colormatching issue which we're going to ignore. A0 and B0 are the originals, and A1+, B1 etc are 'shopped into a potential new color... a couple different blue / blue-greys right now.

I don't mind another blue room. I like blue.

The trim is really nice natural wood, so I'm not going to be painting it.


Input please? Someone in PA has to be good at this ;o Thanks in advance


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  • CimmeriiCimmerii SpaceOperaGhost Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I think a green would go really well in that room, you just need a different color green.

    Getting the right color can be a bitch, if you can locate a large board or are willing to paint a wall several times to actually test a color in that room, get a few test pots and try it out. If you have any samples of the wood/trim that is used in that room, bring it with you when you look for colors.

    I think I know the color you are going for, and the green you have now is too dark and has too much brown in it, try another with more blue, mabye?

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    What are you picturing? Something in any common logo or something I can recognize?

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  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    White would be my choice. Not a blinding one but white.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    A0 is definitely the best look of the three.

    A more pale version of that might just be subtle enough without either being too dark or too light.

    Paint Picker

    Check out Gray Owl or Collingwood. Those might work good in that room.

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  • CimmeriiCimmerii SpaceOperaGhost Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'll see if I can find the color in a logo, but I doubt it is a common one.

    Looking at the paint picker, but it's taking ages to load.

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  • CimmeriiCimmerii SpaceOperaGhost Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    If you know the brand/name of the color (or the number) that you painted the room with let us know.

    So with the paint color thingy working, and apparently being unable to link colors directly:

    Set the color collection to Color preview, and look for Cat's Eye,(I'd just scroll through, it's the top one on the 5-chip style, if you search it, you will only see THAT color) the two cards on either side (seaweed and amazon moss) might be close too, but not all the colors on them would work I think. I'm not sure how dark you want to go.

    List of the paint numbers (try going to the store and actually seeing them, I don't trust monitors that much). I'll just list the darkest, you might want to go a shade or two lighter, or do one dark wall and the rest in a light shade.

    Seaweed - 2035-10
    Cat's Eye - 2036-10
    Amazon Moss- 2037-10

    My kitty says hello to your kitty ;)

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    What color is your floor? I mean can we get a photo of it? There's all different kinds of wood flooring colors. Is if blond? Is it honey or caramel colored? Does it have a lot of knots in it?

    I ask this because even if you pick the perfect wall color, if you look down it might look like shit with the hardwood floor and only one of these things is easy to change.

    Personally I like to paint dining rooms warm colors because it's nice and cozy while your sitting with your family and eating a meal. You can do warm blue tones though, for example Ashwood Gray in the Classic Colors collection is a warm color. I used what bowen linked.

    If it was my room I would actually go brown, but there's so many shades of brown that's hardly helpful. It's also hard to help you without knowing what the floor color is.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah earthy tones are settling at least. Though sometimes they feel a bit cold.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Thanks for the input everyone. After thinking about it and going over pics and chips for like an hour I went with a muted blue-gray ish color in the end. The first coat of primer is up (tinted to match the paint) and if it's any indicator I went with a good choice so I'm really happy. I wanted a blue/brown theme for the place in general and this color looks really good with the trim and floors. My only regret is not doing this room before the kitchen, as they are slightly similar. Maybe in a year or two I'll repaint the kitchen yellow or orange or something :P I'll put a shot the room up once it's finished

    Ya, I had been considering some warm colors instead but decided against them because of the furniture that I know was going into the room.

    The floors are somewhere between milk and dark chocolate, nuka. I may do the bedroom brown when I get to it, that sounds nice. How do I decide which of a billion browns works with the existing brown floors and the much darker & warmer brown trim?

    Anyhow I'm sure I'll resurrect this thread with new projects as I continue to work on the place, thanks again, here's some pictures of my cats.

    2010-09-19192741.jpg


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    ohai Cimmerii's kitty

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Did you get the flooring installed yourself or do you have any extra boards lying around? You can take those to the paint store and compare it to the paint things. Then again the lighting there is different than in your home. Really the best way to compare is to just toss paint chips on the floor and pick what's best, then paint a square on the wall. Still not sure? Paint just one wall and then don't do anything for a day and a night so you can really see what it would be like.

    I personally hate painting, so I like to be as anal retentive about this as possible. :P Oh also HGTV is the default channel that's always on at my house so I've managed to learn a lot.

    In general, dark colors will make a room feel smaller so if you don't mind having a REALLY cozy and snug bedroom then paint as dark as you'd like. You might want to go a shade or two lighter on the ceiling if you so desire to paint the ceiling as well. Browns of all shades are a neutral color so basically everything goes good with brown. It's also a very masculine color, having a brown and a gray bedroom (like the bedding, curtains and the lamps are gray) would be fantastic for a dude. Putting in reds and purples and other lady like colors makes it for feminine for the ladies obviously. (FYI gray also has a lot of shades in it)

    EDIT: I've seen in paint stores they have little guide books that have different colors in them in different settings and you should probably pick one of those up. I know that the Home Depot also has books and magazines for sale. When redoing your home it might be a good idea to pick one of those up.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm just renting here so no, I don't have any spare wood about :P I am and plan to continue to do a lot of work here even though I'm 'just' renting, because I'd like to stay here for a good while and want it to not suck.

    The house is about a century old, but I think the floors must have been redone since they are in such good shape.

    Which reminds me:



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    I found a box of mismatched old forks and spoons in the house. It's really tarnished, heavy, and sounds completely different when the pieces *tink* together compared to my cheapass stuff. I think it may well be real silver or at least genuine goddam metal. I happen to need new flatware, so whether to use or just to see what it looks like I'd like to clean it up. How to start? Soap and water? Tarnish remover? Silver polish? CLR (or would that be too harsh?)? Toothpaste?

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  • President RexPresident Rex Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    If my dad came across a tarnished silver coin he used to give it a bath of water and a pinch of baking soda to clean it up a bit. This actually works by removing the surface layer from the metal and most collectors and retailers consider this a very poor way to clean silver (be aware that quite a few toothpastes also contain baking soda). You'll probably want to try something more classic like (phosphate-free) soap and (warm-but-not-hot) water first. There are silver polishes designed to help keep silver in shape (but actually getting the blackness off in the first place might require some elbow grease).

    But the actual cleaning process will depend heavily on how the utensils are decorated (engravings, intricate patters, raised areas, etc.) and what alloy they actually are. Silver doesn't play well with rubber (gloves, drying mats, etc.). Intense scrubbing or repeated chemical baths can easily destroy intricate designs. Some alloys of silver have copper which tends to get spotty-looking when washed. Some silver flatware is decorated with a laquer that could deteriorate if it's washed in hot water.

    It'd be pretty difficult to gauge the metal a fork is made out of just by its sound (shape has a large impact), but be aware that silver scratches easily so you don't want to wash it next to other metals like (more common) stainless steel. If they're really old they could conceivably be iron.

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  • ComahawkComahawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Most silverware is marked like any other silver object, look for a small stamp on the underside of the handle that says .925

    If you find this, they are sterling silver. I am not aware of what any other silver markings are, but they can be looked up online easily.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Looking for a mark was smart, most of them say silver plated.
    There is quite a bit.
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    A random sample.
    2010-09-21130900.jpg


    I'm starting to think this might not be worth the effort for personal use... mostly because there is like one knife, twenty forks, and ninety spoons. Also, I'm a real butt about all my shit matching, and I don't see a good set in here.

    I'd still like to know a) the best way to clean it b) does it have any value once cleaned if I don't want to use it?

    Some of the "don't's" mentioned above make sense, but at the same time this stuff has been through a good deal of wear and I'm not sure how much I can really damage it further without some dedicated effort.


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    You'll probably want to try something more classic like (phosphate-free) soap and (warm-but-not-hot) water first.

    I may read some soap labels and see if I can do this later on a few pieces, as a start.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Try CLR. It may work on the silver.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    http://www.marshawhitney.com/view_product.php?product_id=486&cat_id=27

    recommended by The Society of American Silversmiths

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I think that's for upkeep, once they are shiny and pretty.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I think that's for upkeep, once they are shiny and pretty.

    Here is the paragraph on silver cleaning from their site
    If your piece is more tarnished, use one of the commercial silver cleaners, some of which provide tarnish protection. Use the least abrasive product possible. Polishes that are meant to be washed off are less abrasive because they use a liquid to suspend the polishing ingredients.

    The least abrasive of the commercial cleaners are 3M's Tarni-Shield Silver Polish, Twinkle Silver Polish, Blitz Silver Care Polish, and Weiman Silver Polish. For removing heavier tarnish and residue, use Goddard’s Long Shine Silver Polish, Goddard’s Silver Foam, Wright's Anti-Tarnish Silver Polish, or Wright’s Silver Cream. (Wright’s Silver Cream is also useful for removing stains on steel knife blades.)

    Sorry about the misinformation earlier. (though it looks like it's there too, so I don't know)

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