I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
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I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
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I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
But by then she'll be off the rotation
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
It's not so much a champion thing as a jungler thing now,
If there aren't any junglers, it's almost always better to push as hard as you can, pushing to their tower gives you leeway to have someone run off into the jungle to grab lizard/golem buffs or maybe even make it to another lane to gank before the other team knows you're missing. It's also sometimes a good idea to do it with certain casters like sona or veigar as they can dart into tower range, nuke somone and dart out without getting hit, it really depends on how the lane is going
Had a great game where my laning partner and I were feeling alittle froggy so we decided to push our 2v1 lane vs Eve after we realized she was kinda bad. I was Janna w/ Blitz. We would push up. I would shield Blitz and we beat on the tower abit. Eve would try to hurt Blitz but it just did no damage and thier jungling WW apparently was so obsessed with trying to gank our mid Trist he never came to us once. We had the tower down by the time we were level 5.
At this point we just confused as to what to do... I mean.. it wasn't quite team battle time yet and we didn't want to take the other lanes xp. It was... weird.
I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
I am 100+ games with Sivir. P.S. Riot has no intention to buff her. It was in the ask a developer thread and the dev said they think she's just fine...
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
I loved.. LOVED her in the super low levels. And I love her character design. But damn, it's like she's a steamroll character only. Its the low range... she just can't position correctly in team fights. The aura build contributes abit, but in the end it always seems better for you to be pushing lanes. So if your team can't win 4v5s consistantly its just.. ugh... I want her to be awesome. But the meaty fighters that everyone is playing now just eat her alive.
I would say that the argument he's making is a little flawed because he's comparing Sivir to hard carries, but I think the fundamentals are right on. What other support/push character has to be right in the thick of things to be useful? Any that you can think of either have a heal, a large amount of armor, or a large amount of health
OHH EDIT. Shurelia says they are going to buff Sivir's range a little. I wonder if that will make her less sucky. I can only wait and hope.
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They could try making her ult good. Maybe having it give her 100 extra range and nearby ranged allies 50 extra range, and slightly less movement speed. Then she doesn't have ridiculously long ranged bouncing attacks by default, but gets them when she needs them.
They could try making her ult good. Maybe having it give her 100 extra range and nearby ranged allies 50 extra range, and slightly less movement speed. Then she doesn't have ridiculously long ranged bouncing attacks by default, but gets them when she needs them.
The biggest problem with her is that her ultimate becomes laughably game-breaking REALLY quickly. She used to be god mode for a reason, and that reason was 99.9% her ultimate. Yes, I do mean GOD MODE. like... wtfop. A while ago, but yeah. If you guys looked through the recent threads, I believe it was Shurelia who posted that they were looking at her, and were likely going to, at least, give, her a little range bump which'd be a HUGE help for her (bringing her back to the old days of nigh unstoppable harass) so... yeah that'll prolly be big.
Does anyone know a decent Tristana build? I've been trying her out, and no matter what I do I can't seem to stop from feeding with her. I know she can be very good, what am I doing wrong? Most guides on mobafire recommend going straight attack speed, but I think that's wrong. Any tips?
Does anyone know a decent Tristana build? I've been trying her out, and no matter what I do I can't seem to stop from feeding with her. I know she can be very good, what am I doing wrong? Most guides on mobafire recommend going straight attack speed, but I think that's wrong. Any tips?
Correct! Diminishing returns, or something like that.
Generally people either start with a Vampiric Scepter or Doran's Shield. I prefer Doran's Shield, because I feel like encouraging yourself to consistently hit creeps is just going to end up with the lane pushed too far, which is dangerous.
Brutalizer is a good early item, and you can always turn it into Ghostblade later. After that, I think most people pick up a Bloodthirster. After that, I generally go for Madred's Bloodrazor/Infinity Edge, depending on the enemy team composition. Don't get 'Zerker Greaves unless you are supremely confident in your ability. I often pick up some survivability items somewhere inbetween, but I got mocked frequently for that and I've never found one that I felt really synergizes well with her other abilities. Captain K posted a pretty detailed guide back in the day, but hell if I can find it.
I will agree that she is really goddamn filmsy, even with an escape. I had a game yesterday where I was 4-0 in the laning phase, and after a short disconnect, I was getting instantly mauled to death in teamfights. I'm not sure what to do when the enemy team focuses on you like they should. Get the hell out of there, I suppose.
Does anyone know a decent Tristana build? I've been trying her out, and no matter what I do I can't seem to stop from feeding with her. I know she can be very good, what am I doing wrong? Most guides on mobafire recommend going straight attack speed, but I think that's wrong. Any tips?
Correct! Diminishing returns, or something like that.
Generally people either start with a Vampiric Scepter or Doran's Shield. I prefer Doran's Shield, because I feel like encouraging yourself to consistently hit creeps is just going to end up with the lane pushed too far, which is dangerous.
Brutalizer is a good early item, and you can always turn it into Ghostblade later. After that, I think most people pick up a Bloodthirster. After that, I generally go for Madred's Bloodrazor/Infinity Edge, depending on the enemy team composition. Don't get 'Zerker Greaves unless you are supremely confident in your ability. I often pick up some survivability items somewhere inbetween, but I got mocked frequently for that and I've never found one that I felt really synergizes well with her other abilities. Captain K posted a pretty detailed guide back in the day, but hell if I can find it.
I will agree that she is really goddamn filmsy, even with an escape. I had a game yesterday where I was 4-0 in the laning phase, and after a short disconnect, I was getting instantly mauled to death in teamfights. I'm not sure what to do when the enemy team focuses on you like they should. Get the hell out of there, I suppose.
Generally the idea is to come in a few seconds after the teamfight starts I suppose. Let them focus on focusing some other character before you make your debut.
It's my problem with Kennen, I have a tendency to let our tank initiate, then immediately rush in, where some patience would probably do me wonders.
Does anyone know a decent Tristana build? I've been trying her out, and no matter what I do I can't seem to stop from feeding with her. I know she can be very good, what am I doing wrong? Most guides on mobafire recommend going straight attack speed, but I think that's wrong. Any tips?
Most guides on mobafire are complete and utter crap. Going straight attack speed is a bad idea on any ranged carry, especially Tristana who already has her Q to begin with. Same thing for starting with a vampiric scepter, for the reason Cosmic Sombrero stated and because the lifesteal isn't that much of an help.
I usually start with a Doran's Blade, when it comes to last hitting the extra damage is a HUGE help (And if you don't run health quints YOU WANT THE HP ATTACHED TO IT, END OF STORY). Then I rush a Infinity Edge in most cases, a Bloodrazor if the enemy is tanky as fuck. Boots are either Mobility for ganking, Swiftness for battle positioning, Mercs if they got a ton of CC, or Zerkers if I'm really confident in my abilities. Then I get something to help me survive because it doesn't matter if my dps is awesome, if I drop in 2 seconds I AM NOT HELPFUL. Something like Banshee's Veil, Thornmail for dps heavy teams, even a Phage if all I need is some hp. Then the rest depends of the current situation, with red/green elixirs thrown in when I need some quick DPS.
I need to figure out what to do with sivir item-wise
Get meki pendant + 2xhp pot, get boots, get Chalice
Aura build is covered by the others just that you rush starks first. Alternatively, you can rush one bloodthirster then figure out if you need to get starks depending on how many times you have died thus far. If no/little deaths, get another bloodthirster then get starks.
Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
I am 100+ games with Sivir. P.S. Riot has no intention to buff her. It was in the ask a developer thread and the dev said they think she's just fine...
Yeah, well, the developer thread I read (@Ezreal) said that she's one of the classic heroes that has become less good as new and more powerful heroes have been added to the game that needs buffing to be competitive again.
second game could be over. The stream client is buggy and won't tell you when its offline. I was wondering if anyone knew if SK Gaming won their match? Just saw that CLG Won theirs!
Malz is underrated because Annie is just better, which is the problem with most of the nukers in the game. Annie is just the perfect nuker.
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Are AP builds at all useful?
I just want to mack shit with BB
AP Sivirs are the worst Sivirs. They're like Hitler.
Also, don't play Sivir 'til they buff her. The power creep hasn't been kind to her.
But by then she'll be off the rotation
Had a great game where my laning partner and I were feeling alittle froggy so we decided to push our 2v1 lane vs Eve after we realized she was kinda bad. I was Janna w/ Blitz. We would push up. I would shield Blitz and we beat on the tower abit. Eve would try to hurt Blitz but it just did no damage and thier jungling WW apparently was so obsessed with trying to gank our mid Trist he never came to us once. We had the tower down by the time we were level 5.
At this point we just confused as to what to do... I mean.. it wasn't quite team battle time yet and we didn't want to take the other lanes xp. It was... weird.
CSB and all.
She's 450 ip.
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I am 100+ games with Sivir. P.S. Riot has no intention to buff her. It was in the ask a developer thread and the dev said they think she's just fine...
I loved.. LOVED her in the super low levels. And I love her character design. But damn, it's like she's a steamroll character only. Its the low range... she just can't position correctly in team fights. The aura build contributes abit, but in the end it always seems better for you to be pushing lanes. So if your team can't win 4v5s consistantly its just.. ugh... I want her to be awesome. But the meaty fighters that everyone is playing now just eat her alive.
It's cool Pac, we won 2/3.
Who you should apologize to are the children at the Atlanta Botanical Gardens.
pac has pretty much played more sivir than anyone will, ever.
i would trust his opinions on the matter.
I'm sure they clean that area regularly... It's fine
I bet they haven't washed that little red house in like, 15 years.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=269819
I would say that the argument he's making is a little flawed because he's comparing Sivir to hard carries, but I think the fundamentals are right on. What other support/push character has to be right in the thick of things to be useful? Any that you can think of either have a heal, a large amount of armor, or a large amount of health
OHH EDIT. Shurelia says they are going to buff Sivir's range a little. I wonder if that will make her less sucky. I can only wait and hope.
i love you two
The biggest problem with her is that her ultimate becomes laughably game-breaking REALLY quickly. She used to be god mode for a reason, and that reason was 99.9% her ultimate. Yes, I do mean GOD MODE. like... wtfop. A while ago, but yeah. If you guys looked through the recent threads, I believe it was Shurelia who posted that they were looking at her, and were likely going to, at least, give, her a little range bump which'd be a HUGE help for her (bringing her back to the old days of nigh unstoppable harass) so... yeah
Also, on the topic from a couple pages ago of Jungling and Alistair... well, it should speak for itself. God I wish I saw this game...
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=3193497#post3193497
Correct! Diminishing returns, or something like that.
Generally people either start with a Vampiric Scepter or Doran's Shield. I prefer Doran's Shield, because I feel like encouraging yourself to consistently hit creeps is just going to end up with the lane pushed too far, which is dangerous.
Brutalizer is a good early item, and you can always turn it into Ghostblade later. After that, I think most people pick up a Bloodthirster. After that, I generally go for Madred's Bloodrazor/Infinity Edge, depending on the enemy team composition. Don't get 'Zerker Greaves unless you are supremely confident in your ability. I often pick up some survivability items somewhere inbetween, but I got mocked frequently for that and I've never found one that I felt really synergizes well with her other abilities. Captain K posted a pretty detailed guide back in the day, but hell if I can find it.
I will agree that she is really goddamn filmsy, even with an escape. I had a game yesterday where I was 4-0 in the laning phase, and after a short disconnect, I was getting instantly mauled to death in teamfights. I'm not sure what to do when the enemy team focuses on you like they should. Get the hell out of there, I suppose.
Generally the idea is to come in a few seconds after the teamfight starts I suppose. Let them focus on focusing some other character before you make your debut.
It's my problem with Kennen, I have a tendency to let our tank initiate, then immediately rush in, where some patience would probably do me wonders.
Most guides on mobafire are complete and utter crap. Going straight attack speed is a bad idea on any ranged carry, especially Tristana who already has her Q to begin with. Same thing for starting with a vampiric scepter, for the reason Cosmic Sombrero stated and because the lifesteal isn't that much of an help.
I usually start with a Doran's Blade, when it comes to last hitting the extra damage is a HUGE help (And if you don't run health quints YOU WANT THE HP ATTACHED TO IT, END OF STORY). Then I rush a Infinity Edge in most cases, a Bloodrazor if the enemy is tanky as fuck. Boots are either Mobility for ganking, Swiftness for battle positioning, Mercs if they got a ton of CC, or Zerkers if I'm really confident in my abilities. Then I get something to help me survive because it doesn't matter if my dps is awesome, if I drop in 2 seconds I AM NOT HELPFUL. Something like Banshee's Veil, Thornmail for dps heavy teams, even a Phage if all I need is some hp. Then the rest depends of the current situation, with red/green elixirs thrown in when I need some quick DPS.
The streams aren't live yet so if it just shows a loading circle that's normal.
makes sense for a transformation dealio
They are up!
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/wcg2010
Yeah, well, the developer thread I read (@Ezreal) said that she's one of the classic heroes that has become less good as new and more powerful heroes have been added to the game that needs buffing to be competitive again.
P.S. blop blop blop
e: oh hey there it goes
Where. I don't see Malzahar anyway. First stream loads, but I don't think any of them are playing Mal. Second stream doesn't load anything at all.
Completely steamrolled Singapore.
"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
Who said Malz was a nuke hero?
Sadly not as well as I had hoped, but it wasn't so much the Malz player being bad, it was more that his entire team was rather outclassed.
Also didn't help that he got a soulstealer so the other team seemed to really focus him down in team fights.
Risk losing your jobs and come play this game.