TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited November 2010
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One thing that's a bit annoying is Marvel's response to the Doomsday will Reign image DC launched. Here is their response:
Now, it wouldn't be that much of a problem if Marvel isn't pulling a Death of Spider-Man promo at the same time. Really, don't say with a straight face that your gimmick death event is any better than the competitor's gimmick death event.
I think Doop is meant to be a pun, and what they're really doing is accusing DC of duplicating their Death of Spider-Man promo.
Or they're accusing DC of duplicating their own Death of Superman storyline.
Either way, it's not exactly unfounded. DC's promo consists entirely of an old logo and a reference to an old storyline, which suggests that it was put up hastily to undercut Marvel's hype and/or is a mere revisitation of that old storyline.
I think Doop is meant to be a pun, and what they're really doing is accusing DC of duplicating their Death of Spider-Man promo.
Or they're accusing DC of duplicating their own Death of Superman storyline.
Either way, it's not exactly unfounded. DC's promo consists entirely of an old logo and a reference to an old storyline, which suggests that it was put up hastily to undercut Marvel's hype and/or is a mere revisitation of that old storyline.
Thing is, I could say the same thing about Marvel's response to DC's price points at NYCC, and how they handled everything afterwards where they said every online site got it wrong in the details. I'm just saying, Marvel isn't exactly innocent in this whole game, enough to warrant a quick "oh snap" comeback like Doopsday.
Did they cite a reason as to why JMS is leaving monthly comics and handing his ideas to a scripter?
Earth One is apparently so big, and such a priority now, that JMS is willing to take a pay cut to focus on telling one really good story (those were his own words) instead of three stories.
This is the best time, and the best opportunity, to step back from writing monthlies entirely so that I can focus on graphic novels and minis. While I feel I’ve done well as a writer in monthlies, the books for which I’m most known and which have had the best reaction are the limited series and GNs like Midnight Nation, Rising Stars, Silver Surfer Requiem, to an extent, Supreme Power, which I treated as a mini as I was writing it, and The Twelve (where Chris has now caught up with the script, and now it falls to me to do the last bit and bring this thing in for a landing). With books like these, I can take the time it takes to get the script absolutely right before it’s ever even announced.
So for me, yes, GNs are the future because they will allow me to tell better stories. It ain’t about the money. In stepping away from writing monthlies for the next 1-5 years, and doing instead only one or two limited series/GNs per year, I’m taking a 75% pay cut in comics so that I can focus on telling better stories.
He has some interviews up at CBR and Bleeding Cool and Newsarama about the decision, and is still in complete denial about his Superman Grounded run. Is there any review place that has given it a good review?
I'm curious to see the direct market sales figures for Earth One.
Brian Hibbs wrote that is sold 16k in direct market, and 6k so far in book scan numbers.
So the first month of real data says SEO sold as much as Scott Pilgrim vol. 6 or Walking Dead.
As far as people buying it in the direct market? I would say for this being the first real attempt at something like this, it would probably get a 90% sell through rate. I'm just going by the way my LCS works their numbers with new titles. The real thing that is going to blind people is what to do with the second volume, because the time between volumes can play havoc. If Davis starts drawing today, the earliest they could get the next one out is by July at the earliest.
Anyone who actually thinks Death of Spider-Man is going to involve the actual death of spider-man is an idiot
If they actually killed peter parker and let him stay dead for more then 3 years I'd be very impressed with the editorial office's brass.
And If you think about it, it would be a good way for the character to start fresh, since he's carrying a shitload of baggage from omd and omit (really, omit just dragged omd back into the spotlight).
Never happen though, since the character makes them too much money.
You don't need to kill a character to get rid of his baggage. You just do what Slott did in the first issue of Big Time.
Speaking of, I wonder how many of the BND plotlines were ended prematurely with the start of Big Time, just because Marvel realized they weren't going anywhere. Frontline, the roommate situation,Harry Osborn, Peter's hot cousins, and Mister Negative were all kind of handwaved away without being given satisfactory conclusions.
The alternative is that these plot elements were introduced without any sort of conclusion in mind, then cast off once Slott was tagged to run the title and decided he didn't want to do any of that crap.
At the least, he's been thrust into the background. Spider-Man forgot about Negative during The Gauntlet and Aunt May was cured of her brutal honesty (I missed when this happened, incidentally), and there's no mention of Negative in the promotional material for Big Time.
Apparently he's the focus of the Spider-Man Shadowlands tie-in, but nobody's reading that.
I thought Mr. Negative is going to have to do with Venom coming back, maybe how anti-venom goes back to a regular venom... I dunno I thought I saw a cover or something.
I'm honestly surprised that anyone is even buying Spider-Man anymore with as many publicity stunts, reboots, and tampering the book has had recently. Like, how do those of you who still read it put up with that crap? I can't think of a more mismanaged book in all of comic-dom.
Big time is made for old school spidey fans. I really liked the first issue, tying up stale plot lines while dangling some interesting new ones and Ramos' art suits it all down to the ground.
Spider-Man currently strikes me as something made for really old school Spidey fans. Like, I imagine people that loved Spider-Man in the 70's would probably like this Spider-Man.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
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I wonder if the whole changing a photo that got him publicly disgraced and fired from the Mayor's office will come back. Or at least the other scientists go "wait a minute, weren't you that guy who demonstrated a complete lack of ethics?" They can call him Dr. Doom around the office.
Spider-Man currently strikes me as something made for really old school Spidey fans. Like, I imagine people that loved Spider-Man in the 70's would probably like this Spider-Man.
See, you keep saying that and I really don't see it.
See, you keep saying that and I really don't see it.
I'm not sure I can nail it down to a tangible thing, it just feels very much of that Roger Stern, John Romita Sr. era. Except now all the new villains are the mostly harmless ones with a classic feel, all the old rogues have turned murderous, and rather than go out on dates with the harem of girls around him, Peter was just sleeping with them. It's like someone looked at those old comics and went, "Hey, let's do that, but modern."
So someone saw Rocket Racer and made Screwball and Overdrive. Or they missed the days when Spider-Man fought Kingpin, and made Mr. Negative. They missed jobless, loveless Peter, so they made that happen. They missed Harry being around, so now he's back.
I'm not saying it's some kind of total retread, just that it's very evocative of that era for me.
Edit: And I recognize that Big Time has apparently flipped all this stuff on its head again. I'm really only talking about Brand New Day, which I've admitted I've only read a few arcs of.
I wonder if the whole changing a photo that got him publicly disgraced and fired from the Mayor's office will come back. Or at least the other scientists go "wait a minute, weren't you that guy who demonstrated a complete lack of ethics?" They can call him Dr. Doom around the office.
Like anyone cares about a random photographer in New York getting fired. I doubt they even knew he took pictures for a living prior to this or would know Peter Parker's name at all. Most people cant name the columnists of a newspaper let alone care about looking up who took the photos.
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On the plus side, new Cinderella mini coming out!
You are such a girl.
One thing that's a bit annoying is Marvel's response to the Doomsday will Reign image DC launched. Here is their response:
Now, it wouldn't be that much of a problem if Marvel isn't pulling a Death of Spider-Man promo at the same time. Really, don't say with a straight face that your gimmick death event is any better than the competitor's gimmick death event.
Or they're accusing DC of duplicating their own Death of Superman storyline.
Either way, it's not exactly unfounded. DC's promo consists entirely of an old logo and a reference to an old storyline, which suggests that it was put up hastily to undercut Marvel's hype and/or is a mere revisitation of that old storyline.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Thing is, I could say the same thing about Marvel's response to DC's price points at NYCC, and how they handled everything afterwards where they said every online site got it wrong in the details. I'm just saying, Marvel isn't exactly innocent in this whole game, enough to warrant a quick "oh snap" comeback like Doopsday.
Earth One is apparently so big, and such a priority now, that JMS is willing to take a pay cut to focus on telling one really good story (those were his own words) instead of three stories.
He has some interviews up at CBR and Bleeding Cool and Newsarama about the decision, and is still in complete denial about his Superman Grounded run. Is there any review place that has given it a good review?
I'm curious to see the direct market sales figures for Earth One.
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Meanwhile the Doomsday thing could mean literally anything
Also I want to bitch about the constant bitching about price points. It's an extra dollar. Get over it.
Brian Hibbs wrote that is sold 16k in direct market, and 6k so far in book scan numbers.
So the first month of real data says SEO sold as much as Scott Pilgrim vol. 6 or Walking Dead.
As far as people buying it in the direct market? I would say for this being the first real attempt at something like this, it would probably get a 90% sell through rate. I'm just going by the way my LCS works their numbers with new titles. The real thing that is going to blind people is what to do with the second volume, because the time between volumes can play havoc. If Davis starts drawing today, the earliest they could get the next one out is by July at the earliest.
If they actually killed peter parker and let him stay dead for more then 3 years I'd be very impressed with the editorial office's brass.
And If you think about it, it would be a good way for the character to start fresh, since he's carrying a shitload of baggage from omd and omit (really, omit just dragged omd back into the spotlight).
Never happen though, since the character makes them too much money.
Speaking of, I wonder how many of the BND plotlines were ended prematurely with the start of Big Time, just because Marvel realized they weren't going anywhere. Frontline, the roommate situation,Harry Osborn, Peter's hot cousins, and Mister Negative were all kind of handwaved away without being given satisfactory conclusions.
The alternative is that these plot elements were introduced without any sort of conclusion in mind, then cast off once Slott was tagged to run the title and decided he didn't want to do any of that crap.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Apparently he's the focus of the Spider-Man Shadowlands tie-in, but nobody's reading that.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
It's running through the entire mini.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
I don't want it to be phil
I want hero green goblin back
and ben reilly
and the prowler
even though it is rebooted and shat upon all the time
there are still good stories told in spider-man
really it's just a matter of internet comic nerds being way more vocal about the bad issues than the good ones
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See, you keep saying that and I really don't see it.
So someone saw Rocket Racer and made Screwball and Overdrive. Or they missed the days when Spider-Man fought Kingpin, and made Mr. Negative. They missed jobless, loveless Peter, so they made that happen. They missed Harry being around, so now he's back.
I'm not saying it's some kind of total retread, just that it's very evocative of that era for me.
Edit: And I recognize that Big Time has apparently flipped all this stuff on its head again. I'm really only talking about Brand New Day, which I've admitted I've only read a few arcs of.
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I thought you meant that Big Time was like old Spidey
darn
Like anyone cares about a random photographer in New York getting fired. I doubt they even knew he took pictures for a living prior to this or would know Peter Parker's name at all. Most people cant name the columnists of a newspaper let alone care about looking up who took the photos.