I always kind of roll my eyes when a superhero has kids. Because it really only leads to two possibilities.
1) The kid is a prop on the arm of the parent, and you get occasional lip service to their role as a parent, until such time as the kid is killed off, abducted and never seen again, or--
2) -- aged enough that they can contribute to the plot. Whether that means they have biologically-induced advanced aging (Oliver from Invincible, Tigra's son), get thrown through time and come back older (Franklin Richards, Cable), or become mentally advanced enough to talk (Valeria Richards), it always ends with them being able to speak, and actually contribute to the plot.
And once a kid can talk, that's it. They're done aging, and will remain frozen in time for decades, with the occasional birthday story to show them getting older (but not really).
I think Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Tim Drake are the only comic characters to actually age, and even then, they keep it vague. Dick and Jason will always been in their early-to-mid twenties, Tim will always be in his teens, and Bruce will always be in his mid-thirties.
Which is fine, really. I don't care to see characters grow old and feeble. That's not why I read superhero comics. But babies really do draw attention to the sliding timeline, without really adding much to the stories.
Not only was there an Exiles comic by Malibu that had Juggernaut on it but there was a chick with the power of...phoenix! Supposedly, not sure how that went, probably turned out she had the phoenix's fart or something, she was also suppose to be related to someone via the Marvel universe. I remember them teasing about it.
Marvel bought out Mailbu comics when they started having financial issues, and then canceled all of the books. The whole thing was relaunched as an alternate version of 616 Marvel universe, and some Marvel characters getting stuck in the Ultraverse for a while. The whole project fell apart almost immediately, but the relaunched Ultraforce book had the Black Knight take over the team and it was okay.
But really, all the good Malibu stuff comes before they were bought by Marvel.
Not only was there an Exiles comic by Malibu that had Juggernaut on it but there was a chick with the power of...phoenix! Supposedly, not sure how that went, probably turned out she had the phoenix's fart or something, she was also suppose to be related to someone via the Marvel universe. I remember them teasing about it.
Marvel bought out Mailbu comics when they started having financial issues, and then canceled all of the books. The whole thing was relaunched as an alternate version of 616 Marvel universe, and some Marvel characters getting stuck in the Ultraverse for a while. The whole project fell apart almost immediately, but the relaunched Ultraforce book had the Black Knight take over the team and it was okay.
But really, all the good Malibu stuff comes before they were bought by Marvel.
Yeah I know, I use to read some of them.
And supposedly the only reason that Marvel bought them in the first place was to get the superior printing/coloring process that Malibu was using at the time or had access too. Once Marvel had that they did a token effort for the comics and pretty much said whoops they don't sale and shut them down. They didn't just spend money on the properties for no reason at all to throw them away, they didn't care in the first place about the characters.
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edited February 2011
Don't you talk shit about The Strangers, Hensler!
It was like the store brand cereal of superteams. You knew Frooty Circles wasn't the real thing but you didn't care!
But yeah, I have all of the Black September issues, and even for the series I'd never read, you could tell Marvel was dooming the entire line with the reboot
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edited February 2011
IDW has successfully killed off any interest I had in their Transformers story
they killed off Kup in the Infestation crossover in the most idiotic way, they don't use Transformers unless they're very much needed in a particular issue even if they were seen two issues previously, and now there's a Galvatron miniseries that will lead into a CHAOS event for the Ongoing
how the fuck can DnA do so bad, hoooow
I will not read a single IDW Transformers story in the future unless I know I've read good Transformers stories of the author's previously
agh
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edited February 2011
I didn't entirely understand how Transformers as a species of sentient robots, would be threatened by the presence of zombies.
Please, please don't tell me they added Zombie Transformers in the book, as much as I dig the concept of a functioning sports car made of rotting flesh.
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The shocked Autobots and Decepticons began to fall under the spell of the Undermind, though their internal security systems fought it back as strongly as possible. However, they were only granted a reprieve when Kup, with Britt's arm still through his torso, managed to regain lucidity and blast himself away from her. Though this distraction bought the Autobots time to retreat, it was too late for Kup, and he became slave to Britt's contamination. Alone with him, she fed on the old Autobots memory banks, which were immense, and with the knowledge she gleaned from him, she prepared to send the Undermind infestation through a portal back through time to Cybertron's better days, when it still teemed with life.
This plan would have worked, if Prowl hadn't previously installed a backdoor into Kup's mind. With direct access to him, Prowl was able to separate his mind from his infected body and instruct him to destroy the portal. Kup regained control just long enough to reconfigure the coordinates the portal was locked onto, and he sent both himself and Britt to the Dead Universe, where they would be trapped forever without anything alive for the Undermind to feed upon.
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SO we're probably back to the point where we could use a Superman that kicks the asses of union busters and whatnot. It's a shame JMS either fucked that up or completely ruined it by trying to walk this really weird, anti-politicizing line to prevent Superman from being too liberal or too conservative and instead made him seem to be completely outside of political possibility.
SO we're probably back to the point where we could use a Superman that kicks the asses of union busters and whatnot. It's a shame JMS either fucked that up or completely ruined it by trying to walk this really weird, anti-politicizing line to prevent Superman from being too liberal or too conservative and instead made him seem to be completely outside of political possibility.
I don't know, it seems like Superman under JMS would've done the busting
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because of IDW's pre-existing property Zombies vs Robots, yes
its not like there weren't already Zombies before in previous stories, but still
and Tex, he died because he STOPPED smoking
that cigar he had duplicated some necessary radiation he needed to stay sane, and he lost his cigar in the previous issue
SO we're probably back to the point where we could use a Superman that kicks the asses of union busters and whatnot. It's a shame JMS either fucked that up or completely ruined it by trying to walk this really weird, anti-politicizing line to prevent Superman from being too liberal or too conservative and instead made him seem to be completely outside of political possibility.
I don't know, it seems like Superman under JMS would've done the busting
This.
I figured that would happen the second I saw this article back in August.
Well, I don't mind the actual costume. Its a bit garish, but there are much worse. I hate the reason it changed. Over in New Avengers he gets abducted by Agamotto and taken to the light dimension while wearing his yellow-and-green. They send him back, but now he's wearing the white-and-gold that he sports now.
It would be fine if it were a one-off for that story, but no he is wearing it in every book he is in. Danny traded in the traditional Iron Fist uniform that has been used for 66 Iron Fists for a costume given to him by a crazy extradimensional being who was trying to erase Earth from existence at the time.
My theory is that Iron Fist is secretly Jean Grey. My evidence:
She went from
to
Just like Iron Fist.
Seriously, though, didn't Jean Grey also get her white costume in a different dimension? Maybe they went to the same place and there's something about that dimension that turns green into white.
Iron Fist is not wearing green and yellow or green and black? That's terrible. I wish they had kept Orson around. That was his name, right? Orson Randall. Right? I wish someone would use him.
My theory is that Iron Fist is secretly Jean Grey. My evidence:
She went from
to
Just like Iron Fist.
Seriously, though, didn't Jean Grey also get her white costume in a different dimension? Maybe they went to the same place and there's something about that dimension that turns green into white.
The original Phoenix costume that Dave Cockrum came up with was the white/gold version, but the Marvel folks at the time felt the coloring would suffer too much bleed thru on the page. So....no white version (which looks awesome, IMO).
I just read All Star Superman last night, and the suicide scene was not impressive. I've been led to believe it was supposed to be a hugely emotional scene, with Superman talking down the girl who wanted to jump. All he does is show up for 3 panels after hearing her with his powers, and tells her people care, thats it. I was expecting more.
Disclaimer: I enjoyed the rest of the story. The art was beautiful and the silver age wackiness of the comic was great too.
I just read All Star Superman last night, and the suicide scene was not impressive. I've been led to believe it was supposed to be a hugely emotional scene, with Superman talking down the girl who wanted to jump. All he does is show up for 3 panels after hearing her with his powers, and tells her people care, thats it. I was expecting more.
Disclaimer: I enjoyed the rest of the story. The art was beautiful and the silver age wackiness of the comic was great too.
To me, that's why the scene is so perfect. He doesn't go do something crazy, nothing insane happens. Superman just notices a problem, despite all the real world-ending stuff he's dealing with, and goes and says those words to her. It's just one of those small moments that really shows the kind of hero Superman should be.
See, I really didn't notice much build up, other than some guy on the phone at the airport.
That is my favorite thing about Superman, he cares about everybody, but that scene just didn't live up the the hype.
All he said was people care, your doctor really did get held up. I was going into this thing believing he gives some deep emotional speech to this girl.
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I could have sworn Wacker said he was de-aged a bit to make him more a twenty something hero in an interview.
And Bruce you could say was de-aged by the Omega Sanction and his time travel. Entropy works great on gray hairs.
1) The kid is a prop on the arm of the parent, and you get occasional lip service to their role as a parent, until such time as the kid is killed off, abducted and never seen again, or--
2) -- aged enough that they can contribute to the plot. Whether that means they have biologically-induced advanced aging (Oliver from Invincible, Tigra's son), get thrown through time and come back older (Franklin Richards, Cable), or become mentally advanced enough to talk (Valeria Richards), it always ends with them being able to speak, and actually contribute to the plot.
And once a kid can talk, that's it. They're done aging, and will remain frozen in time for decades, with the occasional birthday story to show them getting older (but not really).
I think Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Tim Drake are the only comic characters to actually age, and even then, they keep it vague. Dick and Jason will always been in their early-to-mid twenties, Tim will always be in his teens, and Bruce will always be in his mid-thirties.
Which is fine, really. I don't care to see characters grow old and feeble. That's not why I read superhero comics. But babies really do draw attention to the sliding timeline, without really adding much to the stories.
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Marvel bought out Mailbu comics when they started having financial issues, and then canceled all of the books. The whole thing was relaunched as an alternate version of 616 Marvel universe, and some Marvel characters getting stuck in the Ultraverse for a while. The whole project fell apart almost immediately, but the relaunched Ultraforce book had the Black Knight take over the team and it was okay.
But really, all the good Malibu stuff comes before they were bought by Marvel.
Yeah I know, I use to read some of them.
And supposedly the only reason that Marvel bought them in the first place was to get the superior printing/coloring process that Malibu was using at the time or had access too. Once Marvel had that they did a token effort for the comics and pretty much said whoops they don't sale and shut them down. They didn't just spend money on the properties for no reason at all to throw them away, they didn't care in the first place about the characters.
It was like the store brand cereal of superteams. You knew Frooty Circles wasn't the real thing but you didn't care!
But yeah, I have all of the Black September issues, and even for the series I'd never read, you could tell Marvel was dooming the entire line with the reboot
they killed off Kup in the Infestation crossover in the most idiotic way, they don't use Transformers unless they're very much needed in a particular issue even if they were seen two issues previously, and now there's a Galvatron miniseries that will lead into a CHAOS event for the Ongoing
how the fuck can DnA do so bad, hoooow
I will not read a single IDW Transformers story in the future unless I know I've read good Transformers stories of the author's previously
agh
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW
nobodies perfect
Did he die because he smoked? Is that the underlying theme there?
I would have thought that it wouldn't be like him to weigh in on either side of the Union argument.
I don't know, it seems like Superman under JMS would've done the busting
because of IDW's pre-existing property Zombies vs Robots, yes
its not like there weren't already Zombies before in previous stories, but still
and Tex, he died because he STOPPED smoking
that cigar he had duplicated some necessary radiation he needed to stay sane, and he lost his cigar in the previous issue
It is for comic lines what Midgets are for wrestling.
Remember a few years ago when it was number one and even Bendis was talking about how the Avengers would try to dethrone them.
Times has changed.
This.
I figured that would happen the second I saw this article back in August.
zombie transformers have been done before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMpFX96Ec3U
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Zombie
Plus you know space shuttle transformer. So ... Yeah.
Well, I don't mind the actual costume. Its a bit garish, but there are much worse. I hate the reason it changed. Over in New Avengers he gets abducted by Agamotto and taken to the light dimension while wearing his yellow-and-green. They send him back, but now he's wearing the white-and-gold that he sports now.
It would be fine if it were a one-off for that story, but no he is wearing it in every book he is in. Danny traded in the traditional Iron Fist uniform that has been used for 66 Iron Fists for a costume given to him by a crazy extradimensional being who was trying to erase Earth from existence at the time.
That is retarded.
When you put it like that, it really is
He's the Iron Fist
He should be dressed like it
She went from
to
Just like Iron Fist.
Seriously, though, didn't Jean Grey also get her white costume in a different dimension? Maybe they went to the same place and there's something about that dimension that turns green into white.
The White Phoenix costume is really, really good
but it look great
the style and design is so elegant
I can't criticise it, though I'd like it if it had a cape it doesn't really need it
And his death was important and masde sense sooo
I guess he is not coming back
I wouldn't mind more stories about his adventures back in the day, though.
The original Phoenix costume that Dave Cockrum came up with was the white/gold version, but the Marvel folks at the time felt the coloring would suffer too much bleed thru on the page. So....no white version (which looks awesome, IMO).
I just read All Star Superman last night, and the suicide scene was not impressive. I've been led to believe it was supposed to be a hugely emotional scene, with Superman talking down the girl who wanted to jump. All he does is show up for 3 panels after hearing her with his powers, and tells her people care, thats it. I was expecting more.
Disclaimer: I enjoyed the rest of the story. The art was beautiful and the silver age wackiness of the comic was great too.
To me, that's why the scene is so perfect. He doesn't go do something crazy, nothing insane happens. Superman just notices a problem, despite all the real world-ending stuff he's dealing with, and goes and says those words to her. It's just one of those small moments that really shows the kind of hero Superman should be.
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not only that, I loved the buildup to it
That is my favorite thing about Superman, he cares about everybody, but that scene just didn't live up the the hype.
All he said was people care, your doctor really did get held up. I was going into this thing believing he gives some deep emotional speech to this girl.