Having just come back from errands, I was about to purchase Red Baron when I noticed it doesn't list Windows 7 amongst its compatibilities. Does anyone know if it'll work? I own a few another game, I-War 2, that isn't listed as Win7 compatible, and it works fine.
Obviously it could vary, but a quick check of the forums wasn't very promising. Anyone own it and manage to get it working in Windows 7?
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Isy, I guess you missed the memo. One of their Christmas surprises was making Arcanum Win7 "officially" compatible.
Just gotta redownload it, to have the compat version. I imagine the difference between making something work on Vista and making it work on Win7 isn't huge, though.
Also, I've never run into any issues with any of the games I've bought from there on my x64 copy of Win 7, if that helps you any. I think the oldest ones I've played are the first Might and Magic and Simon the Sorcerer.
Having just come back from errands, I was about to purchase Red Baron when I noticed it doesn't list Windows 7 amongst its compatibilities. Does anyone know if it'll work? I own a few another game, I-War 2, that isn't listed as Win7 compatible, and it works fine.
Obviously it could vary, but a quick check of the forums wasn't very promising. Anyone own it and manage to get it working in Windows 7?
I bought it a while back and regretted it almost instantly. The newer games don't run at all and the older ones are so obtuse and graphically primitive I couldn't get into it at all. Pretty much a waste of money.
Thats a lot of games. Recent ones too (as in recently added, not you know, not old). From the bit on the left it looks that although its due to run for the next three weeks, games are going to come in and out of the sale (nice of them to provide counters).
I should pick up planescape: torment. On the other hand Steam xmas sale
I buy way too much stuff (expecially through Steam), play slightly less but still way too much stuff, and I'm still finding myself making time for Planescape: Torment.
Get the recommended patches (especially widescreen and the UI fix) and it's like looking at a lovely painting. Play the recommended build (high Wisdom, high Intelligence, quite high Charisma - and become a mage when you can) with combat turned down and it's like playing an excellent interactive novel/adventure game with the option to kill anybody you don't like. I use it as a break whenever another game's stressed me out, and you'll find the massive length isn't intimidating at all when you can play it in little chunks here and there.
It also gets big plus point for getting you from double-clicking the icon to in-game within 5 seconds.
So, if you were only going to buy one of the Christmas sale games which one would it be? I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but I haven't played any of them. I'm looking at BG2 and NWN: Diamond Ed.
[edit] The problem with BG and NWN games is that, unless you grew up with D&D, you'll faff a lot with the mechanical aspects of the game, kind of making your way through but with each combat encounter a chore. I'd say something like Arx Fatalis is a much simpler game to pick up and play without prior experience- sure, it has its flaws (horrible voice acting), but it has a lot of good ideas and is fun to boot. If you've played Dark Messiah of Might and Magic this is the developer's previous game.
The Longest Journey is a fantastic adventure game. Just play it with the Universal Hint System on the side to work past some of the sillier puzzles and you'll have a blast. Divine Divinity and Sacred Gold are fun Diablo clones with their own little ideas.
Beyond Good and Evil is a really charming platformer slash Zelda slash stealth game. Plays a bit better on the consoles thanks to the gamepad, but the PC version is perfectly playable and looks lovely at high resolutions. Only about 12 hours long, but you'd need to be made of stone to not love the characters by the end.
Oh, and if you've not played it, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time is lovely if you like acrobatic platformers, of course.
[edit] The problem with BG and NWN games is that, unless you grew up with D&D, you'll faff a lot with the mechanical aspects of the game, kind of making your way through but with each combat encounter a chore. I'd say something like Arx Fatalis is a much simpler game to pick up and play without prior experience- sure, it has its flaws (horrible voice acting), but it has a lot of good ideas and is fun to boot. If you've played Dark Messiah of Might and Magic this is the developer's previous game.
The Longest Journey is a fantastic adventure game. Just play it with the Universal Hint System on the side to work past some of the sillier puzzles and you'll have a blast. Divine Divinity and Sacred Gold are fun Diablo clones with their own little ideas.
The screencaps for Arx Fatalis are giving me a real Morrowind, feel. Is that a fair impression?
Beyond Good and Evil is a really charming platformer slash Zelda slash stealth game. Plays a bit better on the consoles thanks to the gamepad, but the PC version is perfectly playable and looks lovely at high resolutions. Only about 12 hours long, but you'd need to be made of stone to not love the characters by the end.
Oh, and if you've not played it, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time is lovely if you like acrobatic platformers, of course.
Big fan of Mirror's Edge, so I should probably give PoP a try.
Arx Fatalis is not open world, unlike Morrowind. You do have hubs and you can do parallel quests in whatever order you want, but at the end of the day it's not a game where you ignore the main questline and spend 80 hours doing sidequests. There's a very definite start and end. It does feel quite open though, especially compared to most of its contemporary RPGs.
Yeah, it would be nicer if they would just mug me properly in an alleyway.
This? It's like an assault on Ft. Wallet.
Damn you, GoG. You're just too good to us.
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The problem with BG and NWN games is that, unless you grew up with D&D, you'll faff a lot with the mechanical aspects of the game, kind of making your way through but with each combat encounter a chore.
BTW, just how familiar do you have to be with D&D rules in order to reduce some of the mechanical difficulty? I mean, I didn't play D&D growing up, but I know the very very basic mechanisms (saving throws, chance to hit, etc etc) and I've played some table-top miniature wargames. I've always wanted to try them simply because they're such staples of PC gaming. But I'm not really interested in smashing my face against a wall over and over again just for the sake of saying that I've played them.
The problem with BG and NWN games is that, unless you grew up with D&D, you'll faff a lot with the mechanical aspects of the game, kind of making your way through but with each combat encounter a chore.
BTW, just how familiar do you have to be with D&D rules in order to reduce some of the mechanical difficulty? I mean, I didn't play D&D growing up, but I know the very very basic mechanisms (saving throws, chance to hit, etc etc) and I've played some table-top miniature wargames. I've always wanted to try them simply because they're such staples of PC gaming. But I'm not really interested in smashing my face against a wall over and over again just for the sake of saying that I've played them.
With a decent guide like the ones on gamefaqs.com you can get by. Also make sure you read the game's manual.
I find 3rd Ed. D&D is generally easier to understand than 2nd. Or at least it seems more consistently straight forward rule-wise and dumps a lot of the baggage from 1st Ed. This despite the fact I grew up with 1st and 2nd Ed. Games that use 3rd are NWN, Temple of Elemental Evil, and Icewind Dale. BG1+2 uses 2nd. However BG2 has better story than most of the others (BG1 is nice but not as good and not really necessary IMO). TOEE is turn based where the others are real time with pausable action. I thought NWN was a lot fun but I know others did not care for the SP all that much. It's single hero with henchman only where the others are more party based.
BTW, just how familiar do you have to be with D&D rules in order to reduce some of the mechanical difficulty? I mean, I didn't play D&D growing up, but I know the very very basic mechanisms (saving throws, chance to hit, etc etc) and I've played some table-top miniature wargames. I've always wanted to try them simply because they're such staples of PC gaming. But I'm not really interested in smashing my face against a wall over and over again just for the sake of saying that I've played them.
I played BG2 straight from being a JRPG-only gamer, and I didn't find it difficult at all. As long as you understand which way is better (higher THAC0 is better, higher AC is worse) and read the manual a little bit, you'll be fine. The only thing that confused me for a while is how to memorize/prepare spells, since I'm only familiar with mana system.
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I'll just go ahead and say I'm really opinionated on this subject.
I think Dungeons & Dragons is a horrible system for PC gaming. It's a system designed with face to face gameplay between friends in mind. But mechanically speaking it's brutal. Between a group of friends with a good DM, this is no problem. Rules get modified, DM's can mitigate the worst of circumstances, turning a crippling roll of the dice into an interesting situation. With a computer arbitrating your campaign, this turns into lots of save scumming, especially when you are getting started. I'm happy that RPG systems have gotten more intuitive and balanced since then.
All of that doesn't mean that I think D&D games on the PC are bad games. They aren't for me, really for a lot more reasons than I want to go into, but their record speaks for themselves. People love them. Personally, I think it's a lot of nostalgia boosting the experience. I'm not sure if new comers are going to get the same connection that came from playing these when they were the best of their kind available. Still, if you enjoy Bioware/Black Isles modern games you'll find that most of that stuff is in these older games too. For most people that's worth the price of admission.
The problem with BG and NWN games is that, unless you grew up with D&D, you'll faff a lot with the mechanical aspects of the game, kind of making your way through but with each combat encounter a chore.
BTW, just how familiar do you have to be with D&D rules in order to reduce some of the mechanical difficulty? I mean, I didn't play D&D growing up, but I know the very very basic mechanisms (saving throws, chance to hit, etc etc) and I've played some table-top miniature wargames. I've always wanted to try them simply because they're such staples of PC gaming. But I'm not really interested in smashing my face against a wall over and over again just for the sake of saying that I've played them.
I played through BG1 and 2 several years ago, having no prior D&D experience. The only thing I found difficult was wading through the morass of possible spells to find the really useful one (i.e., Breach).
Do yourself a favor and read through a spell guide like this one if you're going to play through them.
Edit: One exception is the early part of BG1, where you don't have enough hitpoints to survive one bad die roll. So you can expect to reload frequently if you're playing a melee class.
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Indeed, I'm gonna have to buy that.
Obviously it could vary, but a quick check of the forums wasn't very promising. Anyone own it and manage to get it working in Windows 7?
Just gotta redownload it, to have the compat version. I imagine the difference between making something work on Vista and making it work on Win7 isn't huge, though.
Edit: http://www.gog.com/en/news/more_games_windows_7_compatible/
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I bought it a while back and regretted it almost instantly. The newer games don't run at all and the older ones are so obtuse and graphically primitive I couldn't get into it at all. Pretty much a waste of money.
199 games! Luckily not as a single bundle.
I only had one game on gog so far, Arcanum of Steamworks and Magick Obscura. This sale could hurt me bad xD
The depressing part is that only 163 are showing up for me...for sadly obvious reasons.
I buy way too much stuff (expecially through Steam), play slightly less but still way too much stuff, and I'm still finding myself making time for Planescape: Torment.
Get the recommended patches (especially widescreen and the UI fix) and it's like looking at a lovely painting. Play the recommended build (high Wisdom, high Intelligence, quite high Charisma - and become a mage when you can) with combat turned down and it's like playing an excellent interactive novel/adventure game with the option to kill anybody you don't like. I use it as a break whenever another game's stressed me out, and you'll find the massive length isn't intimidating at all when you can play it in little chunks here and there.
It also gets big plus point for getting you from double-clicking the icon to in-game within 5 seconds.
Sopwith Camel is the best plane.
[edit] The problem with BG and NWN games is that, unless you grew up with D&D, you'll faff a lot with the mechanical aspects of the game, kind of making your way through but with each combat encounter a chore. I'd say something like Arx Fatalis is a much simpler game to pick up and play without prior experience- sure, it has its flaws (horrible voice acting), but it has a lot of good ideas and is fun to boot. If you've played Dark Messiah of Might and Magic this is the developer's previous game.
The Longest Journey is a fantastic adventure game. Just play it with the Universal Hint System on the side to work past some of the sillier puzzles and you'll have a blast. Divine Divinity and Sacred Gold are fun Diablo clones with their own little ideas.
Not a big fan of JRPGs or Turn-based stuff, and I'd prefer altleast D2 level graphics. Beyond that, I'm pretty open.
Oh, and if you've not played it, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time is lovely if you like acrobatic platformers, of course.
The screencaps for Arx Fatalis are giving me a real Morrowind, feel. Is that a fair impression?
Big fan of Mirror's Edge, so I should probably give PoP a try.
If by D2 you mean Diablo 2, get Divine Divinity.
And Arx Fatalis is more Ultima Underworld than Elder Scrolls.
The games are so goddamn cheap anyways I just get them at full price. Then I'm all "SALE!" but I've already got the games.
Yeah. Only 10 years and they are less than 10 bucks. I should have waited!
Yeah, it would be nicer if they would just mug me properly in an alleyway.
This? It's like an assault on Ft. Wallet.
Damn you, GoG. You're just too good to us.
BTW, just how familiar do you have to be with D&D rules in order to reduce some of the mechanical difficulty? I mean, I didn't play D&D growing up, but I know the very very basic mechanisms (saving throws, chance to hit, etc etc) and I've played some table-top miniature wargames. I've always wanted to try them simply because they're such staples of PC gaming. But I'm not really interested in smashing my face against a wall over and over again just for the sake of saying that I've played them.
I find 3rd Ed. D&D is generally easier to understand than 2nd. Or at least it seems more consistently straight forward rule-wise and dumps a lot of the baggage from 1st Ed. This despite the fact I grew up with 1st and 2nd Ed. Games that use 3rd are NWN, Temple of Elemental Evil, and Icewind Dale. BG1+2 uses 2nd. However BG2 has better story than most of the others (BG1 is nice but not as good and not really necessary IMO). TOEE is turn based where the others are real time with pausable action. I thought NWN was a lot fun but I know others did not care for the SP all that much. It's single hero with henchman only where the others are more party based.
I played BG2 straight from being a JRPG-only gamer, and I didn't find it difficult at all. As long as you understand which way is better (higher THAC0 is better, higher AC is worse) and read the manual a little bit, you'll be fine. The only thing that confused me for a while is how to memorize/prepare spells, since I'm only familiar with mana system.
I think Dungeons & Dragons is a horrible system for PC gaming. It's a system designed with face to face gameplay between friends in mind. But mechanically speaking it's brutal. Between a group of friends with a good DM, this is no problem. Rules get modified, DM's can mitigate the worst of circumstances, turning a crippling roll of the dice into an interesting situation. With a computer arbitrating your campaign, this turns into lots of save scumming, especially when you are getting started. I'm happy that RPG systems have gotten more intuitive and balanced since then.
All of that doesn't mean that I think D&D games on the PC are bad games. They aren't for me, really for a lot more reasons than I want to go into, but their record speaks for themselves. People love them. Personally, I think it's a lot of nostalgia boosting the experience. I'm not sure if new comers are going to get the same connection that came from playing these when they were the best of their kind available. Still, if you enjoy Bioware/Black Isles modern games you'll find that most of that stuff is in these older games too. For most people that's worth the price of admission.
I played through BG1 and 2 several years ago, having no prior D&D experience. The only thing I found difficult was wading through the morass of possible spells to find the really useful one (i.e., Breach).
Do yourself a favor and read through a spell guide like this one if you're going to play through them.
Edit: One exception is the early part of BG1, where you don't have enough hitpoints to survive one bad die roll. So you can expect to reload frequently if you're playing a melee class.