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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Ehh, just leave it all in boxes like I tend to when I move. 2 years in the same apartment in Japan and I never full unpacked.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Every dice roll is replaced by a game of F.A.T.A.L.

    I'd rather play Russian roulette.

    With a real gun and five bullets.

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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Faith is the assumption of truth when evidence is absent.

    This absence of evidence is evidence of absence of truth.

    So faith in itself is evidence of falseness.

    Therefore, faith is not a road to truth, but instead a road to falseness.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30x8VTCaOws&feature=related

    relevant bit starts at 0:45 or so

    Such a great show!

    He's wrong though.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Man, these Essentials products are fucking me up. Do I want to bother collection them like I collect the other 4E Books? Will I ever use them?

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Ehh, just leave it all in boxes like I tend to when I move. 2 years in the same apartment in Japan and I never full unpacked.

    Nooooooo that is bad. I want to have less stuff.

    So It Goes on
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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Man Loren you just lit the philosophy signal. You unleashed this upon us all.

    I can light the fetish circle but then we'd just summon J and he'd thwap us all with a raging philosophy hardon.

    Man, what happened to _J_?

    Vanished in a puff of logical contradictions.

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    CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Or a flash version of Jenga.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    Online multiplayer version of Jenga.

    Duh.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Every dice roll is replaced by a game of F.A.T.A.L.

    I'd rather play Russian roulette.

    With a real gun and five bullets.

    Or an semi-automatic with one bullet.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Ehh, just leave it all in boxes like I tend to when I move. 2 years in the same apartment in Japan and I never full unpacked.

    Nooooooo that is bad. I want to have less stuff.

    Well you could always give it to Salvation army. All of it. Become a guru who gives out advice with nothing in your house.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Cokebotle wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    I'm surprised there isn't a Jenga game for Wii or PS Move.

    um
    Boom Blox?

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Ehh, just leave it all in boxes like I tend to when I move. 2 years in the same apartment in Japan and I never full unpacked.

    Nooooooo that is bad. I want to have less stuff.

    It's kind of a good system.

    1. put item in box.
    2. don't use it in a year? don't need it.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I love that exchange.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    Online multiplayer version of Jenga.

    Duh.

    this doesn't exist

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    God, I just played Flash Jenga. That was terrible and stupid.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Ehh, just leave it all in boxes like I tend to when I move. 2 years in the same apartment in Japan and I never full unpacked.

    Nooooooo that is bad. I want to have less stuff.

    Rent a giant garbage dumpster.

    The kind used when remodeling a house.

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    also jenga is pretty mucha neutral game with nothing to it, no vague concepts or imageries or anything

    it's just a mechanic device, no different than using dice or counters

    just waaaaaaay more dramatic

    well, no, that's just not true. It introduces a huge meta-game skill component to the system that is not present in a purely random die roll.

    except all those dice-based games also include mathematical mastery issues where the players with the most comprehensive knowledge of the systems, the mathematical probabilities, and the effectiveness of certain game mechanical elements over others do have a huge advantage over people who don't

    witness any game of D&D where there's a mix of hardcore power-gamers and people who are just like "eh i play whatever i feel like"

    there's meta-game components to that, too, and in fact they're far more pervasive than "hey but what if one player is good at Jenga?"


    You are completely off here and I'm actually quite suprised you missed the distinction. To repeat what I said in simpler terms: every dice based system I am aware of modifies the rolls and interprets the results as you describe but based on assumptions about the simulated world and the characters involved. The Jenga mechanic is based upon the unrelated skill of the players at an arbitrary task.

    In a well designed game, it is at least possible for the system to be somewhat internally consistant based on the set of modifiers used for a given roll. In this Dread system that is not possible as it introduces a "fourth wall" breaking element outside the simulation based entirely on the players themselves and their reality.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I can organize and throw shit out

    it's my one thing I can do

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So no minor actions? No combat?

    No loots?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    if there was a version of Minesweeper where everyone could play on one board

    that would work to power Dread, I think

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I am going to win the lottery and hire someone to organize my house

    i will do it if afterwards we can go on an adventure

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    Online multiplayer version of Jenga.

    Duh.

    this doesn't exist

    Well, not with that attitude, it doesn't

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    Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    Online multiplayer version of Jenga.

    Duh.

    this doesn't exist

    you can't prove that

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    desc wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Ehh, just leave it all in boxes like I tend to when I move. 2 years in the same apartment in Japan and I never full unpacked.

    Nooooooo that is bad. I want to have less stuff.

    It's kind of a good system.

    1. put item in box.
    2. don't use it in a year? don't need it.

    Yeah that doesn't work for everything but I really need to go through my clothes and things and pick out stuff to donate.

    I have an iMac I need to sell too.

    So It Goes on
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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well that was an entire fucking waste of my fucking time. Provincial graduate funding application only considers an undergraduate's marks in 2nd & 3rd year, with the cutoff completely before 4th year. Because apparently 4th year is completely irrelevant or some bullshit.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Wow, the Devil synopsis is pretty awful.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    Online multiplayer version of Jenga.

    Duh.

    this doesn't exist

    Wait until someone makes one?

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    It's actually quite obvious: find an online flash game based on manual skill of some kind and use that arbitrary-out-of-game component to replace the Jenga one.

    edit: I would suggest Crush The Castle.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    If God wanted us to play diceless concept RPGs on the internet, he would have given us retarded block arms with USB cords.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    So no minor actions? No combat?

    No loots?

    the Dread game I had on sunday had loots and combat

    so

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    It's actually quite obvious: find an online flash game based on manual skill of some kind and use that arbitrary-out-of-game component to replace the Jenga one.

    edit: I would suggest Crush The Castle.

    Robot Attack Unicorn.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    Online multiplayer version of Jenga.

    Duh.

    this doesn't exist

    Wait until someone makes one?

    p much what i am currently doing

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Aegis wrote: »
    Well that was an entire fucking waste of my fucking time. Provincial graduate funding application only considers an undergraduate's marks in 2nd & 3rd year, with the cutoff completely before 4th year. Because apparently 4th year is completely irrelevant or some bullshit.

    Wait you just did a year of classes that don't transfer?

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    It's actually quite obvious: find an online flash game based on manual skill of some kind and use that arbitrary-out-of-game component to replace the Jenga one.

    edit: I would suggest Crush The Castle.

    Robot Attack Unicorn.

    Say what now?

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    So no minor actions? No combat?

    No loots?

    the Dread game I had on sunday had loots and combat

    so

    And every round you had to take a piece out?

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    if there was a version of Minesweeper where everyone could play on one board

    that would work to power Dread, I think

    Different underlying system. In minesweeper it is quite possible (frequent on the harder setting) to end up in a situation where there is not enough information known to make a choice about whether a tile has a mine or not. The player has to guess and hope for the best.

    Jenga is much more determentistic.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    now, unfortunately

    i am thus far stymied on how to replicate the number-less and tension-driven qualities of Dread's use of Jenga into an online environment

    which is unfortunate

    It's actually quite obvious: find an online flash game based on manual skill of some kind and use that arbitrary-out-of-game component to replace the Jenga one.

    edit: I would suggest Crush The Castle.

    Robot Attack Unicorn.

    Say what now?

    He said

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMeUPFjQHc

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    desc wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Well that was an entire fucking waste of my fucking time. Provincial graduate funding application only considers an undergraduate's marks in 2nd & 3rd year, with the cutoff completely before 4th year. Because apparently 4th year is completely irrelevant or some bullshit.

    Wait you just did a year of classes that don't transfer?

    No i think his good grades in 4th year aren't gonna be considered for some funding application.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm re-reading the review for FATAL.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    What about people with shaky hands? Or Parkinson's?

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