As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/
We're funding a new Acquisitions Incorporated series on Kickstarter right now! Check it out at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pennyarcade/acquisitions-incorporated-the-series-2

Etrian Odyssey 3 - Now includes ships, robots and old people

1151618202161

Posts

  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Wait, those swim spots in the sea aren't random events?

    Regarding Narmer
    Use the camp spot in the room to the left.

    Chrono Helix on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I don't think they're random. I've moved around some spaces one-by-one and ran into a couple.

    Henroid on
  • DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    I'm fucking irate over this because a ton of my mapping was done with the double-move sail. So now I have to backtrack every single goddamn space of sea to make sure I picked up the proper items all over the place. God fucking damn it that's going to be tedious.

    It's even worse; there are some events which only trigger during the daytime. I just found a Basket Star
    by swimming in the North at B3(a3), next to the seaweed.
    Found a new event in a spot I had already mapped (happened to be using the Latin Sail at the time, but I doubt that matters).

    On the barter log, does anyone have the fish after Dark Moray and the one after Armored Shrimp? And if so, do you recall where you found them? I'm also missing fish before and after Niphon.

    Trade goods, still missing something between Ivory Netsuke and the 500-En Coin, and a pirate drop between Foreign Goods and the Bloody Flag.

    Darian on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Darian you're breaking my heart.

    Also, I'm strongly considering resetting my entire game. I've thought about just going with a Rest use, but the 5 levels knocked off isn't exactly going to make me feel better about my progression point and party choice (still have to level the backup party). And I have a strange compelling to see how much easier the game is now that I've tried the party I initially thought would be great vs. the party I know I'll end up needing (while still having what I want for the most part).

    Henroid on
  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited October 2010

    Buccaneer
    • Gladiator (Uses Wide Hit and superior Club and Sword weapons to become the ultimate one weapon normal attacker)

    Hey, XoB - can you explain that one to me? Aren't all of the Buccaneer Chase abilities dependent on wielding a rapier (or a gun), so you're giving up a bunch of usefulness to switch in Gladiator?

    Elvenshae on
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    After Dark Moray is South Urchin. Rare drop, but it was in South Sea area to the West if I recall.

    There's also 100 En coin and 1000 En coins, so if you're missing that...
    Hey, XoB - can you explain that one to me? Aren't all of the Buccaneer Chase abilities dependent on wielding a rapier (or a gun), so you're giving up a bunch of usefulness to switch in Gladiator?

    That build isn't about Chasing, it's about Swashbuckling.

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Elvenshae wrote: »

    Buccaneer
    • Gladiator (Uses Wide Hit and superior Club and Sword weapons to become the ultimate one weapon normal attacker)

    Hey, XoB - can you explain that one to me? Aren't all of the Buccaneer Chase abilities dependent on wielding a rapier (or a gun), so you're giving up a bunch of usefulness to switch in Gladiator?

    Well, when you pick up a weapon mastery skill you're allowed to use the weapon.

    Henroid on
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    That doesn't allow you to use Weapon A with Weapon B's skills, but that's also irrelevant.

    2nd post updated with XoB's guide, my Guild has been updated with the newest two recruits.

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Buccaneer/Gladiator is entirely ignoring chasing.

    Probably go something like:
    8 Rapier/Gun Mastery, 10 Swashbuckling, 10 Lady Luck, 3 Eagle Eye, 5 Sword Mastery, 10 Hammer, 10 Wide Effect, 10 Berserker and swing the hammer mightily.

    Lots of critical hits sometimes doing decent splash damage. This build would be even better at higher levels when you could add on the chance to stun and charge and such.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Totally resetting. Thinking of going with Buccaneer, Prince, Hoplite, Arbalist, and Gladiator.

    Henroid on
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What row set up and sub jobs?

    Kind of a competition for the front row there.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Bucc, Prince, and Gladiator up front. Hoplite and Arbalist in the back. Though, I might reconsider that and put Bucc in the back for the Hoplite to be able to sub Ninja.

    Prince is gonna sub monk. Arb is gonna sub zodiac like I already have been.

    Depending on hte row, the bucc will sub gladiator or arbalist (just to try the suggestions above).

    Considering cutting the gladiator to put something else in, hurf.

    Henroid on
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'm also heavily considering making my third run through an all Pirate affair.

    Pirate/Gladiator
    Pirate/Shogun
    Pirate/Ninja
    Pirate/Arbalist.
    Pirate/Monk
    Pirate/PRINCESS
    Pirate/Wildling
    Pirate/Lady who can duplicate body parts
    Pirate/CYBORG
    Pirate/UNDEAD BARD.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Pft. All Farmers is the only way to play.

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Considering how easy it is to get their best armor I actually have 5 competent Farmers right now, killing FOES for stat books.

    Stat book bonus stats carry over on retirement in further good news, no need to hoard.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Max Luck Wildlings at the end of Stratum 1!

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    That and more.

    With Max Str fists are the second or third best weapon in the game.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Yeah, but I think Power books are a Stratum 5/6 FOE drop? (Haven't gotten there yet) I'm talking early game breakage.

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I got two luck books and a vigor book just from one time foe clearing before I made the farmer party.

    I'm keeping them farmers because the exp boost will greatly help benched characters.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What about

    Gladiator (arbalist), Prince (monk), Buccaneer (gladiator)
    Arbalist (zodiac), Ninja (zodiac)

    Henroid on
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Sounds like it could work and is pretty similar to the party I used for most of the fifth stratum.

    The only issues are the ones you normally get from a party with no Hoplite and no direct healer: When things go bad they go really bad. You might have a hard time killing certain FOEs.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Is there an online strategy guide to this game or what?

    4rch3nemy on
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'm online most of the time.

    Seriously though what do you need to know? All the English guides are being written...probably.

    You can fumble through the rest and figure it out pretty easily.

    All the completed maps are on Gamefaqs and www.intothelabyrinth.net if that's really holding you back.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    A lot of what I've seen online is referring to classes and skills by their direct-translated Japanese names, as opposed to official NA names. So it could get confusing.

    Henroid on
  • MusanMusan Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    If people are really looking for info, they can try translating the japanese wiki: http://www39.atwiki.jp/sekaiju_maze3

    Quick tip, apparently varistor refers to arbalist. Lot of interesting team combos up there as well.

    Musan on
  • EVOLEVOL Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Okay, so I just started EO3 after giving up on EO2. I just got to the 3rd floor.

    My party is currently

    Front row: Hoplite, Prince, Gladiator
    Back row: Ninja, Monk

    I'm mostly happy about my party, but having both a passive and active healer proved to be good and terrible at the same time. The monk is being really helpful on more difficult fights as she's keeping my hoplite alive, but on random battles she's pretty redundant compared to my prince. I thought about switching her out for a Zodiac, but won't they face the same problems? Useful in boss/FOE fights, damn near useless in random fights?

    EVOL on
  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Well my last attempt at Narmer was suitably nail biting.
    Erina- Gladiator
    Olivia- Princess
    Sophia- Hoplite
    Lianne- Arbalest
    Ray- Zodiac


    So I have him down to a tiny sliver of health, any time now he's gonna go down finally.

    And he dives into the mud again.

    Lianne is out of TP so she can't Barrage all the spots at once. The only chance is to attack at random.

    Spot 1. Miss

    Spot 2. Miss

    Spot 3. Miss

    Spot 4. Miss

    Spot 5. Miss


    Earthquake.

    Bam, Erina goes down. Bam, Olivia goes down. Bam, Sophia goes down. Bam, Ray goes down.


    All that's left is Lianne, now holding the front line with 20 hp left.

    Quickly, she uses a Nectar on Olivia while Narmer dives into the mud once again.

    Two more nectars are used for Erina and Sophia while Narmer shifts his hiding spot around.

    Again, the only choice is to attack at random.

    Spot 1. Miss

    Spot 2. Miss

    Spot 3. Miss

    Spot 4. Hit

    He surfaces, but no one is left to attack him this round.

    I can just tell that he's winding up for a Fin Smack to kill everyone at once this time

    There's no time to shift positions, so all my front line attackers attack from the back row.

    Minimal damage at best. All that's left is Lianne, shooting point-black right at him.



    She hits him square on, knocking him down for good.


    He dropped a Volt Whisker, so i've upgraded Lianne's weapon yet again. She's really the powerhouse of the team, it's crazy how much damage she puts out. Maybe i've specced her wrong, but my gladiator, Erina, is kind of lagging in the damage department. She also misses a TON.

    Doesn't help that these enemies keep blinding everyone as well. Oh well.

    Aistan on
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    You think that's bad, you should hear the story of the first time I took on an Abyssal Death.

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Etrian Odyssey Travelogue

    Entry Eight

    *~*
    Alexis

    Entry Made: 19th of the month of the Silver Lion, on the Seven Hundredth and Fourteenth year of the Holy Empire.

    His Majesty has taken several of our crew out to see in order to see if it’s a viable method for earning money. I would have gone along with him, but he insisted that he would be fine on his own. We both know that he was just trying to protect me from having to go out onto a boat. I can’t afford to let my personal hang-ups get in the way of protecting his Majesty. I’ll have to do better next time.

    For now, though, I’ve led the others into a Labyrinth at night. As expected, we didn’t run into any of the green birds, and we’ve managed to do a fair bit of exploring. We met a strange girl who pointed us to a campsite in the area, so that’s where we are now, recuperating after a trek.

    Another thing of note is a swordsman we ran into warning us about several of the strongest monsters in the stratum. Apparently giant lizards roam the second floor, and they have poisonous bites. We would do well to avoid them, I suppose. There truly is no end to the number of dangers the Labyrinth poses.

    We’ve determined to set out again after an hour or so’s rest, before the sun rises and the Largebills start showing up again. Hopefully we can discover the entrance to the third level before too long.

    *~*

    Rook

    Man, never thought I’d miss the ocean so much! Couple of minutes after we cast off and it’s like I never left the seas at all.

    Of course, I did it with a bunch of green landlubbers in tow, so most of the day was spent making sure they didn’t scuttle the St. Eris the instant we set out of port. His Royal Fanciness also surprised me a good bit – he managed to handle himself fairly well and also keep the ship running. The girl with the bow though – Sidney – she claims to have been on a ship before but you couldn’t tell by the way she runs things. ‘S far as I’m concerned, that she didn’t fall off the side of the boat is a small miracle in and of itself. Clay did her work well enough, but there’s some sort of intense look in her eyes that gives me the creeps.

    Anyway, since we were in no condition to deal with any of the seas’ somewhat more severe conditions, we spent most of the day in the coastal waters nabbing fish. Turned in a decent haul, even if I do say so myself, between that and Farmer we shouldn’t have to worry overmuch about cash for a bit.

    I did catch sight of his highness looking at the lighthouse. Apparently he’s heard the stories about the bird up top. When he asked me about it I told him all the horror stories about how the bird wrecks any ship that approaches it from the east.

    “Then it doesn’t destroy ships that come from the west?” he asked me.

    “No need,” I laughed. “The currents there do that for it. There’s a reason the lighthouse was built, after all.”

    But now I don’t half wonder if I planted some dumb idea into his head to figure out a way to approach the lighthouse. Eh, he’s not taking the St. Eris to sea without my say so, so he’ll have to run any funny ideas through me first.

    Right now though, I stink of fish more than usual. The others are apparently pulling an all-night in the Labyrinth itself. Well, good for them. I’m gonna see if I can’t get the smell of fish guts out of my clothes.

    *~*

    Pure

    Today’s Profit: 0 En (I’m stuck in the bloody Labyrinth overnight. How am I supposed to sell anything?)

    The Labyrinth sucks. Alexis sucks. Giant centipedes suck. Giant lizards with poison fangs suck. Giant platypi with poison tails suck.

    And here I am in the almost pitch darkness surrounded by dozens of these things! (Okay, I’m not surrounded by dozens of Alexis’s but you know what I mean.) Whose bright idea was it to make a midnight excursion, anyway? I swear, I took two steps down into the second level and I got jumped by like three of the platypi things! When later I mentioned how everything in this wretched place seems to keep gunning for me to the redhead monk that Alexis had assigned to guard me, she just grinned and said that maybe they could smell my fear.

    Well excuse me for being afraid when I’m surrounded by ravenous creatures that could tear poor defenceless me apart! Alexis can walk around in those foot-thick armour plates of hers, all I have is the shirt on my back! And it’s not even a very good one! (It also got torn when I was busy running from some clawed shrimp. Seriously, clawed shrimp. What perverse, sadistic god thought that was a good idea? Anyway, need to remind myself to get it mended.)

    Well, on what bright side there is, I found another harvesting spot. Got some flowers out of the deal, and if I don’t miss my guess these are the Valio flowers they process for Nectar up top. I should be able to turn a decent profit out of these things when I sell them. If I live long enough to sell them.

    Sorry if the handwriting’s a little shaky, but I keep getting distracted by the monk’s yells. Seriously, we trek for several hours, and when we finally get to plop down for a break she spends her time doing backflips and practice kicks. Doesn’t she ever get tired? And we’re going to be heading off in about an hour’s time. Maybe I should get some shuteye while I can.

    *~*

    Clay

    Not quite what I had in mind when I signed up for an exploration guild, I have to admit. Still, a day out at sea on a private boat (meaning I don’t have to watch my back for more of that man’s hired goons) wasn’t half bad.

    Spent the day hauling in fish. Not a big fan of fish, myself, but we’re selling them, not eating them, so I guess I can’t complain. Prince Fancypants proved her wasn’t totally useless, too. Colour me surprised.

    Anyway, after the day’s activities I spent some time at the head Guild, taking a look at what the other people there are like. Some of them were easy to peg as glory hounds, others mostly did it because it was a living, and others went into the Labyrinth because they had nowhere else to go.

    Like me.

    Shit. I need to stop getting musey and crap. Doesn’t do anyone any good. You know what, I’m turning in early. Nothing better to do.

    *~*

    Midori

    I’m going to have to remember to thank Rook later. He was the one who carried me out of the Labyrinth after I got knocked out, and he also paid for my treatment. Unfortunately by the time I came around he’d already went out to sea and I was supposed to enter the Labyrinth with Alexis.

    Anyway, a night march’s all well and good, but there’s all sorts of creepy crawlies in the Labyrinth at night! Like this gigantic centipede that tried to sneak up on the party. Luckily we spotted it in time and we were able to kill it without anyone getting seriously injured. But still. Giant bugs. Icky. Aside from that, we also have to steer clear of giant lizards in the area.

    And did I mention the mud? There’s huge mud pools everywhere and they take forever to cross. I mean, I can hop up on the tree branches and cross that way, but the others have to make their way through on foot. We didn’t actually go through any of the mud patches today, but I can tell we’re going to have to, sooner or later. (Haha, wonder what Master Jules would say about that! He’d probably freak.)

    Anyway, I was thinking up ways to deal with those giant birds for our inevitable rematch, and I think I’ll practice my knife throwing once I get the free time. If I coat the knives in a soporific substance I should be able to knock the bird out, and once that’s done it’ll make an easy kill. That, or I could tie it’s shadow to the ground to prevent it from running, but at this point I’m more worried about us running. Heh.

    Oops, Alexis is calling for us to resume our trek. Guess I’ll finish this later.

    Pureauthor on
    SS FC: 1334 0950 5927
    Platinum FC: 2880 3245 5111
  • EVOLEVOL Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Huh. Just fought one of those goddamn deers. It was unexpectedly easy compared to the hellbeasts that were in EO2.

    Gotta love the Kagerou skill.

    EVOL on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    New save file is under way. Gosh remember when Great Lynxs were scary as fuck? Killed my first one at level 2! Also the sunbathe quest, it didn't hit me 'til now that you need to approach the spot for it during daylight. HURR.

    Henroid on
  • Tw4winTw4win Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What is the beginning skill point progression for a prince/princess to maximize healing?

    Tw4win on
    steam_sig.png
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Don't take my advice as word of law, but I prefer going 5 points into the skill that restores HP at the end of the turn (if the prince has max HP) followed by 5 points into Triumphant Call or whatever that is, to make HP restore after battle. Monarch March I'm going to skip this time (HP recovered each step taken). Negotiate is a great healing skill, granted it has to devour buffs you put on people. If you're sub-classing monk though, skip Negotiate. Aim for Protect Order (which requires 5 points in Rally Order which is shit, which requires 5 points in Guardian Order which is actually good). Protect Order restores HP each round it is active based on your TEC stat. The higher the skill, the higher the % of TEC is healed. And the higher your TEC, well, you get the picture.

    Edit - Also, the first heal skill I mentioned, the post-battle heal, Monarch March, and the skill that heals when you buff people all do fixed amounts of healing (they don't scale). None of them jump above 100 HP, as far as I know.

    Henroid on
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Why oh why would you ever start a new file on this game unless you wanted to redo the map?

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Was it not clear that's what I was doing when I got into it last night? If I'm going to level up people from level 1 to replace the party members I'm not pleased with I may as well start over.

    Besides, I'm going to be placing all sorts of notes and markers and shit on my sailing map this time.

    Henroid on
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I just find it wasteful to the extreme. The game has perfectly fine mechanics for starting over without wasting your maps.

    Xenogears of Bore on
    3DS CODE: 3093-7068-3576
  • Octopus MelodyOctopus Melody Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I thought I'd try out a Chasing Buccaneer since my party had 3 characters who attacked with the same weapon type, but it seems almost all the Buccaneer's other abilities don't really mesh with their Chases? I had a few points in Trickster but I don't get any TP back when I use Chase or hit with Chases, and while I haven't tested it out I imagine stuff like Lady Luck and Swashbuckling don't work either since they're only for normal attacks.

    Is there any way to improve Chasing, maybe with a subclass, or is it kind of a deadend street?

    Octopus Melody on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I just find it wasteful to the extreme. The game has perfectly fine mechanics for starting over without wasting your maps.

    Should've said something last night! And besides, I'm Henroid. X-TREME is my middle name.

    I did want some perspective though, in regard to seeing how easy the game is when you've already experienced the latter portions of it. I'm the guy who would roll a new character in WoW for a class I already max-leveled just to see how major changes affected the class from start to finish (only twice did I actually remove high-level characters in this regard).

    Henroid on
  • EVOLEVOL Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So, why are Zodiacs bad again? Their main problem was said to be TP shortage, but I've never really had any trouble because of TP so far.

    So glad I switched out my Monk for the Zodiac. Now I'm doing ELEMENTAL DAMAGE BITCHES.

    EVOL on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I don't recall anyone saying Zodiacs were bad.

    Henroid on
Sign In or Register to comment.