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Game Gurlz? Really?
Tattlemoose
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I am a gamer girl. And by that I mean I have a vagina and also play games. I don't play games about cooking, making jewelry, getting boyfriends, or taking care of animals/babies. I play D&D, Fallout, Magic the Gathering, Mass effect, halo, a variety of board games (such as Dominion and Settlers of Catan, not Candyland), among many other games that don't come in pink packaging. I don't flirt/sleep with men in return for games. Being a girl doesn't make me incapable of being a gamer, nor liking certain games, nor having any form of basic intelligence. I am a human being just like the male of my species and feel no need to constantly gossip with others or cry when I don't have someone constantly asserting their physical attraction to me.
My father and step-mother both work in the games industry. I have been immersed in that culture my whole life. I don't doubt the creators of Penny Arcade, at least on some basic level, acknowledge the difficulty of being a girl in gamer culture as well as the hardships that come with being a woman working in the games industry. Then, why would Penny Arcade make such a tasteless video that perpetuates stereotypes that annoy the hell out of girls like me on a daily basis? Penny Arcade, I am disappoint.
My father and step-mother both work in the games industry. I have been immersed in that culture my whole life. I don't doubt the creators of Penny Arcade, at least on some basic level, acknowledge the difficulty of being a girl in gamer culture as well as the hardships that come with being a woman working in the games industry. Then, why would Penny Arcade make such a tasteless video that perpetuates stereotypes that annoy the hell out of girls like me on a daily basis? Penny Arcade, I am disappoint.
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If you don't want to be cater to as a "gamer girl" then don't distinguish your as a gamer girl.
Really, just remain sexually anonymous and no one will care.
Spoken like a privileged goose. Why should she have to hide her gender online?
I haven't seen the video. Care to sum it up for me?
(I generally don't watch videos at work... it crosses a line for me regarding work-appropriate behavior. Yeah, it's weird.)
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Gender has absolutely nothing to do with playing videogames.
Yes, you get shit like FragDolls that projects a terrible image for the female population, but who cares. If you enjoy playing a certain type of games then play it; there is no need to parade that you are a girl gamer or a gay gamer or a post-op transgender gamer.
if you would, could you summerise the video and link to it. That way we all will better able to understand your point
I mean so does "Terrible movie: the game"
The message here is that children in general make very bad purchasing decisions
You could argue that videos and such that lampoon gamer stereotypes (or any stereotypes, really) are helping dismantle them, rather than taking them at face value.
I wonder if the OP thought that Borat was anti-semetic.
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Except for the purpose of letting people know that gay gamers or girl gamers or black gamers or trans gamers or older gamers exist rather than assume that everyone on the internet is a straight white American male between the ages of 18 and 34.
Most people who are the assumed gender or ethnicity or nationality don't, because they are the assumed gender or ethnicity or nationality.
Why should it need to be displayed? As a male, I don't advertise my gender when I'm playing games.
Re: the automatic assumption that a gamer is male:
Presently, there are two choices--either accept the assumption and the benefits thereof (lack of female gender stereotypes), or announce gender and accept the consequences (in this case, negative stereotypes).
I think the ideal is that it shouldn't be assumed that a gamer is male or female--some people already do this, but I think we can accept that generally the gamer is assumed to be male. Hiding gender while playing isn't likely to change the assumption. If you're going to make it your cause to change the assumption and negative stereotypes that go with being a female gamer, then that is entirely your choice, but be prepared to face the backlash of the image of groups like Fragdolls and GameCrush and the negative stereotypes until those things change.
That includes humor you might not find amusing.
Facts! The most elusive of prey.
so there's this thing called humor and irony
Are you suggesting they keep their identity or defining attributes in the dark, a closet perhaps.
XBL games must be fun being completely incapable of communicating with your teammates
Of course by announcing one's existence out of the assumed characteristics opens one up to negative perceptions, but it also presents the opportunity to challenge those perceptions.
Besides, it's not like most (MOST) people go around with usernames like GAY GAMER HERE or HERE BE BLACK FOLK, it's more like when someone says something, like, assuming you are a guy whose girlfriend or wife will aggro you, you say, "nah, actually I'm a woman, my husband's doing the dishes."
Not everything is about "privlege". What benefit is there in being able to advertize your gender? I'm not rocking the gamertag DickCockingtonStraightWhiteManOfPrivlege.
because that's the only way i can envision someone not getting the whole point of the video was to be a parody
it could not be more blatant
Why the fuck aren't you
that is the best gamertag. ever.
Do out-of-the-closet gay people keep parading at their jobs saying that they are gay all the time? No.
Because being gay should not affect their jobs and their work performance.
Same with female gamers. You do not need to go parading in WoW or Halo or whatever you play that you are a girl gamer.
Why should I only reveal my gender if it benefits me? Maybe I just want to be able to be me and not assumed to be someone else.
Too many characters.
Did anyone actually watch the ending, since it hasn't been mentioned once? If you didn't watch the ending, then watch the ending, because it makes more sense that way.
In general no one gives a single solitary fuck who you are. They care that you take out that sniper, run the flag back and generally just wanna yell out racial epithets because it's the internet and mom went to the grocery store. Hell, it's not all that uncommon for me to mute most of my team that isn't on my friends list.
Neither being gay or straight, nor female, nor black affects my job or work performance or gaming skill or lack thereof. Two out of three of those are visibly obvious from a distance, though, and one is aurally obvious the second I get on TS or Vent. The remaining item becomes obvious the second I say, "brb my husband/wife just brought me a drink."
I guess I don't see what's wrong with making obvious what is obvious rather than going out of my way to obfuscate it. As I mentioned before, I'm not talking about usernames like GRRLWhoGamesLOL or whatever.
I don't play FPSs so I don't really have a clue what you're talking about. There are more than one type of game out there, so maybe this is not relevant if you're playing a shooter. I wouldn't know.
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I suppose there's an argument that stereotype lampooning can still be harmful. Imagine if Robert Downey Jr's character in Tropic Thunder had acted like Stepin Fetchit. There'd probably be people angry if they saw Al Jolson in blackface today, even though he was anything but racist.
If somebody would like to start a new thread on a similar subject with a clearly delineated topic of discussion, you have my blessing.