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Restoring Sanity and Keeping Fear Alive: The Stewart-Colbert Rally (Now With Map!)
Whether you're attending to make a political statement, see a couple of hilarious dudes live, or just hang out with rad SE++ers, the discussion continues here! The event is on Saturday, October 30th in Washington, D.C. at the National Mall.
I'm not sure how much sense it makes to try to orchestrate a singular forum get-together, since I know a lot of us are attending with friends or family and will have a lot of conflicting plans/schedules, but I could be persuaded to update the OP with a list of who is attending and possible meet-up places/times if that's something you guys think would be useful.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
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Rally to Wishing You Could Afford Time Off To Go To This
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited October 2010
Can we talk about how I watched a clip of the Daily Show from 1999 and Jon looked like a child in a suit that did not fit him?
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
There was one episode recently where Jon showed a really old clip from that era and he was saying afterwards, "What, did I have to wear Kilborn's old suits? Was the budget that small?"
OBION COUNTY, Tenn. - Imagine your home catches fire but the local fire department won't respond, then watches it burn. That's exactly what happened to a local family tonight.
A local neighborhood is furious after firefighters watched as an Obion County, Tennessee, home burned to the ground.
The homeowner, Gene Cranick, said he offered to pay whatever it would take for firefighters to put out the flames, but was told it was too late. They wouldn't do anything to stop his house from burning.
Each year, Obion County residents must pay $75 if they want fire protection from the city of South Fulton. But the Cranicks did not pay.
The mayor said if homeowners don't pay, they're out of luck.
This fire went on for hours because garden hoses just wouldn't put it out. It wasn't until that fire spread to a neighbor's property, that anyone would respond.
Turns out, the neighbor had paid the fee.
"I thought they'd come out and put it out, even if you hadn't paid your $75, but I was wrong," said Gene Cranick.
Because of that, not much is left of Cranick's house.
They called 911 several times, and initially the South Fulton Fire Department would not come.
The Cranicks told 9-1-1 they would pay firefighters, whatever the cost, to stop the fire before it spread to their house.
"When I called I told them that. My grandson had already called there and he thought that when I got here I could get something done, I couldn't," Paulette Cranick.
It was only when a neighbor's field caught fire, a neighbor who had paid the county fire service fee, that the department responded. Gene Cranick asked the fire chief to make an exception and save his home, the chief wouldn't.
We asked him why.
He wouldn't talk to us and called police to have us escorted off the property. Police never came but firefighters quickly left the scene. Meanwhile, the Cranick home continued to burn.
We asked the mayor of South Fulton if the chief could have made an exception.
"Anybody that's not in the city of South Fulton, it's a service we offer, either they accept it or they don't," Mayor David Crocker said.
Friends and neighbors said it's a cruel and dangerous city policy but the Cranicks don't blame the firefighters themselves. They blame the people in charge.
"They're doing their job," Paulette Cranick said of the firefighters. "They're doing what they are told to do. It's not their fault."
To give you an idea of just how intense the feelings got in this situation, soon after the fire department returned to the station, the Obion County Sheriff's Department said someone went there and assaulted one of the firefighters.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited October 2010
Don't pay the tax, don't get the benfits
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I really don't see how you can defend this.
It isn't even a tax, they pay their taxes, the taxes pay for the fire department.
This is basically an insurance extortion racket, they're having to pay extra money to the town in order to have their house protected on the off chance it might catch fire.
So now:
* Multiple homes are affected because one was allowed to burn
* An otherwise taxpaying citizen is likely to move out and not be part of the tax base
* House prices will go down
* Some people will move out because they hadn't been paying the stupid tax, don't plan to pay the stupid tax, and don't want their home wrecked
It's almost as if free professional firefighting services were an essential public good to cover for the broad impact of a singular disaster.
Wait, is this really the first time you guys have heard about this kind of deal? It's been going on for years in Midwest states. People have to privately pay for fire protection, and if they don't then the house burns. My econ 101 professor described it as "If you call 911, they'll show up. But they'll just watch the house burn and make sure the fire doesn't spread to paying neighbors."
I'm not defending this practice, but it's nothing we haven't heard of before.
Wait, is this really the first time you guys have heard about this kind of deal? It's been going on for years in Midwest states. People have to privately pay for fire protection, and if they don't then the house burns. My econ 101 professor described it as "If you call 911, they'll show up. But they'll just watch the house burn and make sure the fire doesn't spread to paying neighbors."
I'm not defending this practice, but it's nothing we haven't heard of before.
No, i havnet heard of this at least because its batshit fucking insane.
Wait, is this really the first time you guys have heard about this kind of deal? It's been going on for years in Midwest states. People have to privately pay for fire protection, and if they don't then the house burns. My econ 101 professor described it as "If you call 911, they'll show up. But they'll just watch the house burn and make sure the fire doesn't spread to paying neighbors."
I'm not defending this practice, but it's nothing we haven't heard of before.
No, i havnet heard of this at least because its batshit fucking insane.
I've heard of small, private communities having their own police force and stuff, like Seagate.
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4766348
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130321994
YES! I caught part of it, anyway. Now I have something awesome to listen to while I work, thank you
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/04/firefighters-watch-a.html
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html
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Presumably the chief didn't pay his fucking Police Escort fee
isn't it funny how this kind of thing happens literally every day when people can't afford medical care and yet that never makes any headlines
Gives a new dimension to the old "lovely place you have here, would be a shame if something were to... happen to it" bit
i guess i'm going to sleep mad at all these idiots
I really don't see how you can defend this.
It isn't even a tax, they pay their taxes, the taxes pay for the fire department.
This is basically an insurance extortion racket, they're having to pay extra money to the town in order to have their house protected on the off chance it might catch fire.
* Multiple homes are affected because one was allowed to burn
* An otherwise taxpaying citizen is likely to move out and not be part of the tax base
* House prices will go down
* Some people will move out because they hadn't been paying the stupid tax, don't plan to pay the stupid tax, and don't want their home wrecked
It's almost as if free professional firefighting services were an essential public good to cover for the broad impact of a singular disaster.
I am not a violent man
but I want to smack tea party jesus in the mouth
I'm not defending this practice, but it's nothing we haven't heard of before.
No, i havnet heard of this at least because its batshit fucking insane.
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I've heard of small, private communities having their own police force and stuff, like Seagate.
But not this.