I played a decent game in terms of I didn't suck. I was playing on Metalopolis against a Terran, pushed aside an odd 6 Marine + bunker attempt just after I got my 4 gate going, went over to the base, had some trouble with the wall off so I backed up, started my expo and built pylons outside his ramp and built up a few more forces. He came out a minute later with like 10 marines, a marauder or two and two siege tanks which I destroyed with like 15 chargelots. Having 10 more harvesters before the expo even kicked in = good.
With that force dead, I attack, bust the wall, pillage and what not. But he flew his CC away. Fine, totally legit desperation move. This was at ~11-12 minutes.
The game went on another 20 minutes and he made one additional unit from a starport that also got away. He had enough minerals to hide his SCVs while I was destroying his base, partially from dropping 4 MULES when he landed his CC, to build 3 additional command centers and then fly them away, hiding one in the corner. Only the one landed and I found it at like 14 minutes, after i finished off the rest of his base. I expect a GG and send one and get "Not yet." Two I shot down before they landed. And it took me forever to find the last one. Apparently if you see a flying building it doesn't show up in the fog of war so the one time my obs got near it before my phoenixes found it I wasn't looking at the minimap.
I had 13000+ minerals by the end. And he kept trying to get me to drop, or claiming he was going to take a nap. Obnoxious. If there's no CC on the ground for 30 seconds you should get revealed
So I got beaten by someone floating their CC into my base and morphing it into a PF...that was embarrassing. Luckily it wasn't on Day9. Anyways, what's the best way with dealing with a lot of Ultralisks (as Protoss)?
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EDIT: Aren't corruptors pretty good against VRs? Not that you can get them out quickly, but there really isn't a whole you can do against charged up voids.
Immortals murder ultralisks. Zealots can tank them pretty well, but mind the banelings.
ya know, I keep hearing over and over again that zealots do well against ultralisks. i have no idea where this rumor started and why it persists because ultras always rape my chargelots regardless of how many i have.
I remember feeling like that. After I did them and got placed, I was so excited. I still feel apprehensive about playing ladder sometimes (ok, alot), and I totally thought it was just me who felt apprehensive about pressing the find match button.
Really though, this is goofy of us isn't it? I mean, it's just a game...only the most important game ever! O_____O
But seriously, I need to press that button more, every time I do I have a blast.
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So I got beaten by someone floating their CC into my base and morphing it into a PF...that was embarrassing.
Next time this happens, grab a worker and just sit below their command center so they can't land it. Someone tried this on me and I did just that and it was SOEZ
I hate playing in diamond. No time for fun shit, everyone is always going for real fancypants strats with timings and crap. Pleh on all you decent players. I just want to nydus banelings, is that too much to ask?
I want to point out that PsyStarcraft is by far the best commentator I've had the pleasure to listen to. I think all Zerg players should be subscribed to his you-tube channel.
so i've been dicking around with the unit tester and man, mass hydras are crazy good against gateway units. zealots do really well against them in even numbers up to a point but then just get demolished. 20 hydras will beat 10 zealots and 10 stalkers (though barely).
ya know, I keep hearing over and over again that zealots do well against ultralisks. i have no idea where this rumor started and why it persists because ultras always rape my chargelots regardless of how many i have.
I keep on trying to advocate for DTs. Even when detected, they ruin people pretty fierce.
Obviously don't try to get them detected. But they are still (faster) double DPS zealots.
Edit: Should have gone on the ultralisk quote, whoops.
GOMTV has also said if you bought s1 tickets, s2 tickets will be discounted for you, yay! :P
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I totally just wanted to post in this thread to say that the last thread title got me to check out Day9's channel and I love it. I've never even played SC but he's entertaining, and also is enticing me to maybe pick up SCII...
But yeah, the quote referenced in this thread's title made me laugh. I've always played similar games in online games.
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I would assume i sound like an ancient historian because the other 2 dont fit? *shrug*
A few pages back, but man Crovax is waaaay more pharmaceutical than ancient historian. I mean there is even a drug called Provax, you are like right there man.
corrupters are an all around bad unit. I wish broodlords morphed from mutas.
They facerape colossi.
and they are pretty useful against phoenix too. better than mutas at least.
what air-to-air unit is the phoenix better than?
Phoenix are abusive against mutas (and completely shut down ravens/banshees). They do surprising well against vikings too. A phoenix will actually beat a viking at even upgrade levels, while being twice as fast and way more flexible. (In practice though, viking hunting isn't viable due to terran ground support.) If it weren't for reactors and how much more gas intensive protoss is, I'd say that phoenixes are strictly superior to vikings.
The bug with them really, really sucks though.
Edit: Put another way, if terrans had phoenix instead of vikings, every other race would be completely boned.
corrupters are an all around bad unit. I wish broodlords morphed from mutas.
They facerape colossi.
and they are pretty useful against phoenix too. better than mutas at least.
what air-to-air unit is the phoenix better than?
Phoenix are abusive against mutas (and completely shut down ravens/banshees). They do surprising well against vikings too. A phoenix will actually beat a viking at even upgrade levels, while being twice as fast and way more flexible. (In practice though, viking hunting isn't viable due to terran ground support.) If it weren't for reactors and how much more gas intensive protoss is, I'd say that phoenixes are strictly superior to vikings.
The bug with them really, really sucks though.
Edit: Put another way, if terrans had phoenix instead of vikings, every other race would be completely boned.
Every other race is already completely boned against terran :-)
I keep hearing that Phoenix shut down mutas, but I haven't seen it in action. And I didnt think that phoenix's would beat vikings straight up... I mean, that would make them the strongest light anti-air, air unit in the game, and it just doesn't feel that way, although, i barely use them, and have often been wrong before.
(and ravens/banshees/broodlords dont count - they can't shoot back)
corrupters are an all around bad unit. I wish broodlords morphed from mutas.
They facerape colossi.
and they are pretty useful against phoenix too. better than mutas at least.
what air-to-air unit is the phoenix better than?
Phoenix are abusive against mutas (and completely shut down ravens/banshees). They do surprising well against vikings too. A phoenix will actually beat a viking at even upgrade levels, while being twice as fast and way more flexible. (In practice though, viking hunting isn't viable due to terran ground support.) If it weren't for reactors and how much more gas intensive protoss is, I'd say that phoenixes are strictly superior to vikings.
The bug with them really, really sucks though.
Edit: Put another way, if terrans had phoenix instead of vikings, every other race would be completely boned.
Every other race is already completely boned against terran :-)
I keep hearing that Phoenix shut down mutas, but I haven't seen it in action. And I didnt think that phoenix's would beat vikings straight up... I mean, that would make them the strongest light anti-air, air unit in the game, and it just doesn't feel that way, although, i barely use them, and have often been wrong before.
(and ravens/banshees/broodlords dont count - they can't shoot back)
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Clown toss literally click around on the map and it makes it so mutas cant do anything against phoenixes.
corrupters are an all around bad unit. I wish broodlords morphed from mutas.
They facerape colossi.
and they are pretty useful against phoenix too. better than mutas at least.
what air-to-air unit is the phoenix better than?
Phoenix are abusive against mutas (and completely shut down ravens/banshees). They do surprising well against vikings too. A phoenix will actually beat a viking at even upgrade levels, while being twice as fast and way more flexible. (In practice though, viking hunting isn't viable due to terran ground support.) If it weren't for reactors and how much more gas intensive protoss is, I'd say that phoenixes are strictly superior to vikings.
The bug with them really, really sucks though.
Edit: Put another way, if terrans had phoenix instead of vikings, every other race would be completely boned.
Every other race is already completely boned against terran :-)
I keep hearing that Phoenix shut down mutas, but I haven't seen it in action. And I didnt think that phoenix's would beat vikings straight up... I mean, that would make them the strongest light anti-air, air unit in the game, and it just doesn't feel that way, although, i barely use them, and have often been wrong before.
(and ravens/banshees/broodlords dont count - they can't shoot back)
:P
but yeah phoenixes EAT mutas alive, they're better in literally every conceivable way: faster moving, fire while moving, more than double muta's damage, lower attack cooldown, 1 more range. phoenixes shut mutas down almost as badly as thors do--at least you can sometimes out micro the thors (though with marine support you're fucked).
I'll have to keep that video in mind next time I play against someone who is incapable of hitting H after they realize I'm kiting their mutas in a big circle
a couple times. not enough to say that i'm 100% familiar with them. Please take most of the "terran are OP" crap i spew as tongue in cheek. There are a few specific issues with them (banshees and marauders), but it doesn't affect me, yet, because well, look at the sig.
corrupters are an all around bad unit. I wish broodlords morphed from mutas.
They facerape colossi.
and they are pretty useful against phoenix too. better than mutas at least.
what air-to-air unit is the phoenix better than?
Phoenix are abusive against mutas (and completely shut down ravens/banshees). They do surprising well against vikings too. A phoenix will actually beat a viking at even upgrade levels, while being twice as fast and way more flexible. (In practice though, viking hunting isn't viable due to terran ground support.) If it weren't for reactors and how much more gas intensive protoss is, I'd say that phoenixes are strictly superior to vikings.
The bug with them really, really sucks though.
Edit: Put another way, if terrans had phoenix instead of vikings, every other race would be completely boned.
Every other race is already completely boned against terran :-)
I keep hearing that Phoenix shut down mutas, but I haven't seen it in action. And I didnt think that phoenix's would beat vikings straight up... I mean, that would make them the strongest light anti-air, air unit in the game, and it just doesn't feel that way, although, i barely use them, and have often been wrong before.
(and ravens/banshees/broodlords dont count - they can't shoot back)
:P
but yeah phoenixes EAT mutas alive, they're better in literally every conceivable way: faster moving, fire while moving, more than double muta's damage, lower attack cooldown, 1 more range. phoenixes shut mutas down almost as badly as thors do--at least you can sometimes out micro the thors (though with marine support you're fucked).
I agree they destroy mutalisks. However, they aren't better in every conceivable way, they aren't as good at harassment, they are more expensive, and I am pretty sure they take longer to build.
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I played a decent game in terms of I didn't suck. I was playing on Metalopolis against a Terran, pushed aside an odd 6 Marine + bunker attempt just after I got my 4 gate going, went over to the base, had some trouble with the wall off so I backed up, started my expo and built pylons outside his ramp and built up a few more forces. He came out a minute later with like 10 marines, a marauder or two and two siege tanks which I destroyed with like 15 chargelots. Having 10 more harvesters before the expo even kicked in = good.
With that force dead, I attack, bust the wall, pillage and what not. But he flew his CC away. Fine, totally legit desperation move. This was at ~11-12 minutes.
The game went on another 20 minutes and he made one additional unit from a starport that also got away. He had enough minerals to hide his SCVs while I was destroying his base, partially from dropping 4 MULES when he landed his CC, to build 3 additional command centers and then fly them away, hiding one in the corner. Only the one landed and I found it at like 14 minutes, after i finished off the rest of his base. I expect a GG and send one and get "Not yet." Two I shot down before they landed. And it took me forever to find the last one. Apparently if you see a flying building it doesn't show up in the fog of war so the one time my obs got near it before my phoenixes found it I wasn't looking at the minimap.
I had 13000+ minerals by the end. And he kept trying to get me to drop, or claiming he was going to take a nap. Obnoxious. If there's no CC on the ground for 30 seconds you should get revealed
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ya know, I keep hearing over and over again that zealots do well against ultralisks. i have no idea where this rumor started and why it persists because ultras always rape my chargelots regardless of how many i have.
I remember feeling like that. After I did them and got placed, I was so excited. I still feel apprehensive about playing ladder sometimes (ok, alot), and I totally thought it was just me who felt apprehensive about pressing the find match button.
Really though, this is goofy of us isn't it? I mean, it's just a game...only the most important game ever! O_____O
But seriously, I need to press that button more, every time I do I have a blast.
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Next time this happens, grab a worker and just sit below their command center so they can't land it. Someone tried this on me and I did just that and it was SOEZ
of course, HTs hard counter em pretty fierce
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I keep on trying to advocate for DTs. Even when detected, they ruin people pretty fierce.
Obviously don't try to get them detected. But they are still (faster) double DPS zealots.
Edit: Should have gone on the ultralisk quote, whoops.
Fruitdealer absolutely made paying $20 for the last couple sets of games worth it. Can't wait for the next GSLs.
That his winning bothered Idra makes me even more happy.
But yeah, the quote referenced in this thread's title made me laugh. I've always played similar games in online games.
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what air-to-air unit is the phoenix better than?
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Phoenix are abusive against mutas (and completely shut down ravens/banshees). They do surprising well against vikings too. A phoenix will actually beat a viking at even upgrade levels, while being twice as fast and way more flexible. (In practice though, viking hunting isn't viable due to terran ground support.) If it weren't for reactors and how much more gas intensive protoss is, I'd say that phoenixes are strictly superior to vikings.
The bug with them really, really sucks though.
Edit: Put another way, if terrans had phoenix instead of vikings, every other race would be completely boned.
Every other race is already completely boned against terran :-)
I keep hearing that Phoenix shut down mutas, but I haven't seen it in action. And I didnt think that phoenix's would beat vikings straight up... I mean, that would make them the strongest light anti-air, air unit in the game, and it just doesn't feel that way, although, i barely use them, and have often been wrong before.
(and ravens/banshees/broodlords dont count - they can't shoot back)
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I guess my SC2 name would be a historian.
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Clown toss literally click around on the map and it makes it so mutas cant do anything against phoenixes.
Protoss are a very difficult race and heres why.
:P
but yeah phoenixes EAT mutas alive, they're better in literally every conceivable way: faster moving, fire while moving, more than double muta's damage, lower attack cooldown, 1 more range. phoenixes shut mutas down almost as badly as thors do--at least you can sometimes out micro the thors (though with marine support you're fucked).
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a couple times. not enough to say that i'm 100% familiar with them. Please take most of the "terran are OP" crap i spew as tongue in cheek. There are a few specific issues with them (banshees and marauders), but it doesn't affect me, yet, because well, look at the sig.
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I agree they destroy mutalisks. However, they aren't better in every conceivable way, they aren't as good at harassment, they are more expensive, and I am pretty sure they take longer to build.