Warlock82Never pet a burning dogRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
I had fun in trade chat last night when some guy was boasting that he had been playing since 2005. I said I had been playing since 2003, and of course, instantly was bombarded with comments about how I "fail" and was a moron because WoW came out in 2004 Silly, silly trade chat.... lest you forget, beta was in 2003! People of course still didn't believe me, and one guy denied that beta was in 2003 (wtf?! haha... I think he was thinking of Open Beta), but then the game crashed because 4.0 is a buggy-ass patch so I never got to see the end of that conversation trail
(also, if people are going to sing "Escape (the Pina Colata Song)" in trade chat, they really should learn the damn words... "getting lost in the rain"? Really?)
As long as that doesn't devolve into "DK tanks for heroic SH or gtfo" that's a-ok with me.
That's what it'll be now.
DK AoE threat is through the roof still in comparison to paladins. Not sure about bears. Warriors are more of a "tc, tc, tc, shockwave and hope no one pulls off me before that shockwave!"
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I bear tanked 1/3 of the night last night. I must say, single target threat was awesome and engaging, and I had no problem having a huge lead even on our 24k dps casters.
Being on add duty on Gunship though? Almost said 'eff this' and jumped off the side. The adds sprint off in random directions the second they spawn, so there is no opening for a 'single well-timed swipe.' Ranged aggro from FF now sucks, so you're stuck taunting on cooldown and chasing after everything individually. Then someone starfalls and auuugh.
I'm not really having an issue on either my warrior or paladin, are you just dealing with people who are still AoEing and not understanding how it works now?
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As a DK in gear from last October (well I got a few new items yesterday), my gear level is 232 according to Blizzard's built-in thing, and I held my own pretty well in heroic dungeons (did 4k-6k depending on how much AoE there is).
I love the Dark Transformation for my ghoulie, and I've just learned how to use my keybindings, making things 110% easier for me.
I still have a freaking mace from 10 man Ulduar though, so I've been trying to get a new 2H wep badly.
I think that's quite likely, yeah. Things definitely improved as the evening went on. It's also people just not quite being aware what they can do, so a surprising crit could peel a mob off.
Also, not yet having my taunts on muscle-memory is an issue!
On the bright side: soloing chillmaw, finished the fight on full health and full mana. I think my downtime might just be a thing of the past... although I'm not sure how many mobs I can reliably take on at once. Was *very* gingerly pulling when I did my 15 cultists.
Somehow I'm getting the expression that people never really test those expansion patches too well, given they tend to be too busy checking out the new stuff rather than actually testing it for bugs. At least I can't explain the horribly broken exploits that popped up any other way.
I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
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In ICC last night, my Surv Hunter's dps seemed low compared to other people, but I imagine that some of that was due to learning a totally new mechanic, while they mostly had more minor changes. Mage dps is out of control though.
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I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
huh? What's this now?
Shadow priests have obscene damage right now. I ran a drak keep yesterday where the shadow priest was doing 50% of the damage, poor ICC geared rogue was behind me as the tank for dps.
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I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
huh? What's this now?
Shadow priests have obscene damage right now. I ran a drak keep yesterday where the shadow priest was doing 50% of the damage, poor ICC geared rogue was behind me as the tank for dps.
SW: Death's cooldown is reset if it doesn't kill the mob, so they can spam the crap out of it and do a bijillion damage as long as they're kept healed.
Fury, Arms, Feral Cat, Ret Paly dps is too low and will be buffed
Mage DPS is too high, especially fire, and will be nerfed
Shadow Priest Dps is too high, largely due to shadow word: death spam which is tough on healers. They will be fixing that. (im not sure what he means by this, i dont have a priest)
Destro Lock DPS is too high, largely due to searing pain spam and is tough on tanks. They will be fixing that. (dont have a lock either)
Anddd.. pvp stuff, which i dont care about
I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
huh? What's this now?
Shadow priests have obscene damage right now. I ran a drak keep yesterday where the shadow priest was doing 50% of the damage, poor ICC geared rogue was behind me as the tank for dps.
SW: Death's cooldown is reset if it doesn't kill the mob, so they can spam the crap out of it and do a bijillion damage as long as they're kept healed.
OK yeah, this I knew. I thought he was talking about something in either Holy or Disc that was out of control. Was worried there was a healing nerfbat incoming :P
Tanking as a DK now seems overly easier then before.
Tab target Heart Strike while tossing out Rune Strikes and Death Strikes and DnDing a pack of 4 or more. I'm not sure why people are really complaining about rune recovery rate either. I have RS procced almost constantly in heroics and ICC.
Holy is demolishing everything atm on AoE fights, with Druids a close second. (why were they crying again?) It's really only because we're still living in a world with infinite mana though, PoH Chakra will taper way off when base mana triples in a level.
My priest friend was saying that PW: Barrier wasn't scaling correctly. Maybe they will fix that too.
That would help. The few times I used it (when I wasn't giggling over healsmite) it vanished in a split second. I mean I know that one pack after Skadi hits a little hard, but I didnt think it hit THAT hard.
I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
huh? What's this now?
Echo of Light is bugged. It's possible to increase the Echo of Light heal exponentially, resulting in dirt cheap heals ranging from ten thousands to a couple million each second. Something they can easily sustain for lengthy amounts as well.
On groups.
Without paying attention.
These imagehosting services always seem kinda fishy to me, but it's all I got, I guess. Might not be safe for work, at least Imagedump sometimes has "odd" adds.
So I am going to say it: When is Blizz making it possible to have Triple spec? We already have the ability to dual spec. How long before they bite the bullet and lets us switch between all 3 talent trees at will? Especially now since they have made them more "focused".
When someone slaps some sensibility into Ghostcrawler.
I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
huh? What's this now?
Shadow priests have obscene damage right now. I ran a drak keep yesterday where the shadow priest was doing 50% of the damage, poor ICC geared rogue was behind me as the tank for dps.
SW: Death's cooldown is reset if it doesn't kill the mob, so they can spam the crap out of it and do a bijillion damage as long as they're kept healed.
Ahh so that explains why he was getting annihilated despite not getting it. I was wondering.
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Sigh, all the classes I play are so much fun right now, i don't know who I'm gonna level to 80 first. I know my lock will be my main dps (pretty much have ditched my warrior that I've played since vanilla, need a change of pace) but I have a priest and shaman that i want to heal on, and I don't see the point of healing on both....but both are so much fun, smite healing as disc is absurd, and amazing, but I know that'll only be for 5 mans. shamans are kinda same ol same ol right now, but they'll be getting freakin healing rain and can frickin heal while moving, and are just all around much better healers than disc priests. sigh, tough decision....
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So I am going to say it: When is Blizz making it possible to have Triple spec? We already have the ability to dual spec. How long before they bite the bullet and lets us switch between all 3 talent trees at will? Especially now since they have made them more "focused".
When someone slaps some sensibility into Ghostcrawler.
Pretty sure it's an issue with one of the old school guys who didn't want to include even dual specs, not an issue with Ghostcrawler.
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So I am going to say it: When is Blizz making it possible to have Triple spec? We already have the ability to dual spec. How long before they bite the bullet and lets us switch between all 3 talent trees at will? Especially now since they have made them more "focused".
When someone slaps some sensibility into Ghostcrawler.
Pretty sure it's an issue with one of the old school guys who didn't want to include even dual specs, not an issue with Ghostcrawler.
<insert some half-assed excuse about dumbing down or choice or something>
That's generally what they reply with. There really isn't a reasonable.... reason why they haven't done that yet though.
So I am going to say it: When is Blizz making it possible to have Triple spec? We already have the ability to dual spec. How long before they bite the bullet and lets us switch between all 3 talent trees at will? Especially now since they have made them more "focused".
When someone slaps some sensibility into Ghostcrawler.
Pretty sure it's an issue with one of the old school guys who didn't want to include even dual specs, not an issue with Ghostcrawler.
<insert some half-assed excuse about dumbing down or choice or something>
That's generally what they reply with. There really isn't a reasonable.... reason why they haven't done that yet though.
I had fun in trade chat last night when some guy was boasting that he had been playing since 2005. I said I had been playing since 2003, and of course, instantly was bombarded with comments about how I "fail" and was a moron because WoW came out in 2004 Silly, silly trade chat.... lest you forget, beta was in 2003! People of course still didn't believe me, and one guy denied that beta was in 2003 (wtf?! haha... I think he was thinking of Open Beta), but then the game crashed because 4.0 is a buggy-ass patch so I never got to see the end of that conversation trail
(also, if people are going to sing "Escape (the Pina Colata Song)" in trade chat, they really should learn the damn words... "getting lost in the rain"? Really?)
Uh, beta did start in 2004. Maybe an F&F alpha was going in 2003, but I'd think you'd know if you were invited to alpha.
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(also, if people are going to sing "Escape (the Pina Colata Song)" in trade chat, they really should learn the damn words... "getting lost in the rain"? Really?)
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That's what it'll be now.
DK AoE threat is through the roof still in comparison to paladins. Not sure about bears. Warriors are more of a "tc, tc, tc, shockwave and hope no one pulls off me before that shockwave!"
I tanked just fine in BC as ARMS and then at 65 as a real tank the new tanking just sucks
Being on add duty on Gunship though? Almost said 'eff this' and jumped off the side. The adds sprint off in random directions the second they spawn, so there is no opening for a 'single well-timed swipe.' Ranged aggro from FF now sucks, so you're stuck taunting on cooldown and chasing after everything individually. Then someone starfalls and auuugh.
In retrospect, making Malygos the very first mob I even *hit* after the patch may have been unwise.
Towards the end of the evening, post-raid, I was able to get my rotation together, and I'm a bit more confident about today.
I love the Dark Transformation for my ghoulie, and I've just learned how to use my keybindings, making things 110% easier for me.
I still have a freaking mace from 10 man Ulduar though, so I've been trying to get a new 2H wep badly.
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Also, not yet having my taunts on muscle-memory is an issue!
On the bright side: soloing chillmaw, finished the fight on full health and full mana. I think my downtime might just be a thing of the past... although I'm not sure how many mobs I can reliably take on at once. Was *very* gingerly pulling when I did my 15 cultists.
Smug bastard. Back in vanilla, we pally tanks had to work for our threat generation.
I just wonder what they'll hotfix first, but I'd bet money that they'll hotfix priests before monday. No way they'll let them rampage through raids while healing millions per second :P
Nah, I was alliance.
Lich king without DBM is like trying to piss into a toilet at night without the lights on and with a squirrel pawing at your nuts.
huh? What's this now?
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Shadow priests have obscene damage right now. I ran a drak keep yesterday where the shadow priest was doing 50% of the damage, poor ICC geared rogue was behind me as the tank for dps.
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SW: Death's cooldown is reset if it doesn't kill the mob, so they can spam the crap out of it and do a bijillion damage as long as they're kept healed.
Fury, Arms, Feral Cat, Ret Paly dps is too low and will be buffed
Mage DPS is too high, especially fire, and will be nerfed
Shadow Priest Dps is too high, largely due to shadow word: death spam which is tough on healers. They will be fixing that. (im not sure what he means by this, i dont have a priest)
Destro Lock DPS is too high, largely due to searing pain spam and is tough on tanks. They will be fixing that. (dont have a lock either)
Anddd.. pvp stuff, which i dont care about
OK yeah, this I knew. I thought he was talking about something in either Holy or Disc that was out of control. Was worried there was a healing nerfbat incoming :P
Tab target Heart Strike while tossing out Rune Strikes and Death Strikes and DnDing a pack of 4 or more. I'm not sure why people are really complaining about rune recovery rate either. I have RS procced almost constantly in heroics and ICC.
That would help. The few times I used it (when I wasn't giggling over healsmite) it vanished in a split second. I mean I know that one pack after Skadi hits a little hard, but I didnt think it hit THAT hard.
Echo of Light is bugged. It's possible to increase the Echo of Light heal exponentially, resulting in dirt cheap heals ranging from ten thousands to a couple million each second. Something they can easily sustain for lengthy amounts as well.
On groups.
Without paying attention.
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Ahh so that explains why he was getting annihilated despite not getting it. I was wondering.
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Pretty sure it's an issue with one of the old school guys who didn't want to include even dual specs, not an issue with Ghostcrawler.
<insert some half-assed excuse about dumbing down or choice or something>
That's generally what they reply with. There really isn't a reasonable.... reason why they haven't done that yet though.
Actually, screw specs. Just have a tank, healer, and dps button, give the player the abilities they need for that role, and just let them have at it.
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