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Traveling outside London

LBLB Registered User regular
edited October 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I just moved to London from the US and I haven't quite got the hang of public transportation just yet. If I want to take a National Rail train out of London, do I have to reserve a ticket, or can I just show up and buy it the day I want to leave (or return)? Is there a difference in price depending on what I do? And can I use an Oyster card, or are the fares the same?

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    LB wrote: »
    I just moved to London from the US and I haven't quite got the hang of public transportation just yet. If I want to take a National Rail train out of London, do I have to reserve a ticket, or can I just show up and buy it the day I want to leave (or return)? Is there a difference in price depending on what I do? And can I use an Oyster card, or are the fares the same?

    You can just show up on the day and buy a ticket at the station or one of the train. It will be more expensive to do this than just going to thetrainline.co.uk and buying a ticket ahead of time.

    You can't use an Oyster card outside of London.

    Train fares are deliberately complicated, so be sure to interrogate the ticket sales person if you do go to the station to find the cheapest ticket.

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  • Space CoyoteSpace Coyote Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    LB wrote: »
    I just moved to London from the US and I haven't quite got the hang of public transportation just yet. If I want to take a National Rail train out of London, do I have to reserve a ticket, or can I just show up and buy it the day I want to leave (or return)? Is there a difference in price depending on what I do? And can I use an Oyster card, or are the fares the same?

    In addition to the previous response, you might want to also look into Plusbus, which gives you unlimited bus travel around your destination for a small additional fee on top of your train ticket.

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  • cmsamocmsamo Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    thetrainline isn't necessarily always the cheapest fare either, so be wary.

    We just booked tickets to come to London from the midlands. On thetrainline, the fare was some £70 each.

    By using Virgin Trains, and taking a more indirect route, we got fares for £30 each, an amazing deal. If you let me know details of where you want to go and when, by PM, I don't mind looking at getting some good fares for you and letting you know how to book them. It's a bit of a minefield but you can get good results if you spend a bit of time on it.

    Also - if you can commit to getting certain trains at certain times, you can travel cheaper. It's best to avoid rush hour (early mornings, early evenings). In our example, we chose a train out of London at 11:30am, and the seats on it were only £7 each, because we said we would go on that train, and that train alone (i.e. our tickets aren't valid for any other train).

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I was helped a lot by the man in seat 61, it manages to explain the more complex contraptions of British public transport to me. http://www.seat61.com/

    I was also helped very well by the personnel at the stations. They can print you a small receipt that details which trains to take and they know a lot about the various trains leaving and connecting through their station.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    There are a ton of websites you can find through google that advertise the 'cheapest' train fares in the UK. Each tend to have better fares for different things. Also, whenever you can, take a Virgin train - they're faster and the most comfortable and newest (although admittedly I only travelled on Northern Rail, Arriva, and First Paninfera (from Maidenhead to Paddington which was an ooooold train).)

    I've booked through thetrainline, virgin trains, and easytrain online for the cheapest fares. At one point during my trip I was planning a trip from Whitehaven to Edinburgh, and booked the trip for £40 for 2 people (Whitehaven - Carlisle, Carlisle - Edinburgh, and back), my uncle tried to surprise me by buying our tickets, but he went to the station and his were over £100 for the same trip.

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  • LBLB Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Thanks for the help. The biggest problem I've had after taking into account all of your advice is finding the train stations in order to look up the fares. I figured how to get out of London (London-Cambridge), but I need to get from Norfolk to London on Sunday and I haven't been able to figure out where/if there is a train station in Norfolk.

    Thanks for the hint about the bus tickets. I saw that when I was buying my ticket but I wasn't sure if it was actually a good deal or not. I will be sure to get that next time I take a trip!

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  • cmsamocmsamo Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Norfolk is a county. There are a whole load of stations scattered throughout it. Which town/city are you trying to get to? Norwich is the largest city in the county IIRC.

    See here for the stations

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Get a 16-25 railcard if you're under 25 too. It covers its cost pretty rapidly.

    If you can book far in advance and can travel during the week, I strongly recommend 1st class on Virgin. You can easily drink/eat the advanced ticket's cost on a journey.

    Personally I find buses a complete nightmare out in the provinces and avoid them as much as possible.

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