TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I will probably be at PAX East
Pay me enough money and I'll just never go home
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FFOnce Upon a TimeIn OaklandRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I'm trying to convince our IT department that, when within our network, loading our main website is painfully slow. They've seen it perform slowly on every Mac I've shown to them, but their response since it always loads quickly on a Windows machine is 'lolmacissue'
I've checked, rechecked and verified as best as I can that the Macs are grabbing the proper DNS settings, search domains, etc. I can hit any other website with little to no slowness or latency. I tried running traceroute on the IP of our main site and got the following:
traceroute to www.website.com (123.123.123.123), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.10.20.2 (10.10.20.2) 0.764 ms 0.235 ms 0.229 ms
2 10.10.2.7 (10.10.2.7) 0.623 ms 12.194 ms 0.343 ms
3 10.9.48.1 (10.9.48.1) 1.628 ms 1.143 ms 0.860 ms
4 192.168.1.9 (192.168.1.9) 4.012 ms 3.125 ms 3.639 ms
Stalls for 10-15 seconds or longer
5 97.x.y.1 (our external IP address is 97.x.y.2 when I go to something like whatsmyip.org)
I'm no network engineer, but would a reason for the stall when loading our main site be the stalling between hops 4 and 5? Are the hops between 4 and 5 within our network? Am I even reading this correctly?
...I really need to go get a CS degree one of these days :?
I'm trying to convince our IT department that, when within our network, loading our main website is painfully slow. They've seen it perform slowly on every Mac I've shown to them, but their response since it always loads quickly on a Windows machine is 'lolmacissue'
I've checked, rechecked and verified as best as I can that the Macs are grabbing the proper DNS settings, search domains, etc. I can hit any other website with little to no slowness or latency. I tried running traceroute on the IP of our main site and got the following:
traceroute to www.website.com (123.123.123.123), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.10.20.2 (10.10.20.2) 0.764 ms 0.235 ms 0.229 ms
2 10.10.2.7 (10.10.2.7) 0.623 ms 12.194 ms 0.343 ms
3 10.9.48.1 (10.9.48.1) 1.628 ms 1.143 ms 0.860 ms
4 192.168.1.9 (192.168.1.9) 4.012 ms 3.125 ms 3.639 ms
Stalls for 10-15 seconds or longer
5 97.x.y.1 (our external IP address is 97.x.y.2 when I go to something like whatsmyip.org)
I'm no network engineer, but would a reason for the stall when loading our main site be the stalling between hops 4 and 5? Are the hops between 4 and 5 within our network? Am I even reading this correctly?
...I really need to go get a CS degree one of these days :?
Hop 4 is a private IP, so it should be a different part of your network. What was the response time for hop 5 (for that matter, what is the general ping time to the site)?
If that website is at the same physical location the response times should be really low (<10ms). But even if it was higher, say, 100ms it shouldn't be terribly slow to load.
CS degree wouldn't help much here, that's all programming .
IP at hop 4 (192.168.1.9) looks like the internal IP of an edge router/firewall.
IP at hop 5 (97.x.y.1) is the default gateway your edge router/firewall is trying to talk to (and 97.x.y.2 is the default external IP of your edge router/firewall). This should be a very low latency hop. There's a problem between your edge router/firewall, and the ISP router/modem (97.x.y.1). Is the ISP-provided router/modem onsite? Not sure why you'd get a different trace on Windows vs Mac, have you run a trace from a Windows box?
Is your main website hosted onsite or do you use a 3rd party host?
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FFOnce Upon a TimeIn OaklandRegistered Userregular
I'm trying to convince our IT department that, when within our network, loading our main website is painfully slow. They've seen it perform slowly on every Mac I've shown to them, but their response since it always loads quickly on a Windows machine is 'lolmacissue'
I've checked, rechecked and verified as best as I can that the Macs are grabbing the proper DNS settings, search domains, etc. I can hit any other website with little to no slowness or latency. I tried running traceroute on the IP of our main site and got the following:
traceroute to www.website.com (123.123.123.123), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.10.20.2 (10.10.20.2) 0.764 ms 0.235 ms 0.229 ms
2 10.10.2.7 (10.10.2.7) 0.623 ms 12.194 ms 0.343 ms
3 10.9.48.1 (10.9.48.1) 1.628 ms 1.143 ms 0.860 ms
4 192.168.1.9 (192.168.1.9) 4.012 ms 3.125 ms 3.639 ms
Stalls for 10-15 seconds or longer
5 97.x.y.1 (our external IP address is 97.x.y.2 when I go to something like whatsmyip.org)
I'm no network engineer, but would a reason for the stall when loading our main site be the stalling between hops 4 and 5? Are the hops between 4 and 5 within our network? Am I even reading this correctly?
...I really need to go get a CS degree one of these days :?
Hop 4 is a private IP, so it should be a different part of your network. What was the response time for hop 5 (for that matter, what is the general ping time to the site)?
If that website is at the same physical location the response times should be really low (<10ms). But even if it was higher, say, 100ms it shouldn't be terribly slow to load.
CS degree wouldn't help much here, that's all programming .
Response time for hop 5 is pretty much the same as everything else <10ms. It's strange, the only stall in in between hops 4 and 5 but the response times are all good. Ping is fast, pretty much always <15ms.
Honestly, I'm grasping at straws here. I've been following a few patterns but every time I think I've found a pattern I can reproduce, it disappears.
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Huh...
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Apothe0sisHave you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered Userregular
edited February 2011
From the fact that it messes with Macs and not Windows PCs, I doubt it's related to your network. I would suggest that there's some javascript, java or other other thing on the site that breaks the Mac browser engine but not Windows ones.
Can you test a few different browsers on the Mac to see if it's the same result for each of them? Safari, Firefox and Internet Exploder for Mac?
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lwt1973King of ThievesSyndicationRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
How I hate office politics. You start messing with their process to make it easier in the long run and people start bitching about how it won't work and then drag their feet on everything you ask them to do to help the process.
Fun fun.
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FFOnce Upon a TimeIn OaklandRegistered Userregular
From the fact that it messes with Macs and not Windows PCs, I doubt it's related to your network. I would suggest that there's some javascript, java or other other thing on the site that breaks the Mac browser engine but not Windows ones.
Can you test a few different browsers on the Mac to see if it's the same result for each of them? Safari, Firefox and Internet Exploder for Mac?
That's what I was starting to end up at, however...
I tested Safari, Firefox and Chrome. They all wind up getting fairly random stalls on the same sites. Even tried IE and Firefox running Windows XP through VirtualBox exhibit the same stalls. I know it's emulation and not Bootcamp but I can't get my laptop to actually set up Bootcamp without crapping all over itself. Natch.
I think I've discovered that one of our internal IP's I get through traceroute seems to be timing out. I don't think it actually has any bearing on what's happening, but it's all I have for now.
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Huh...
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
We've got 2 server migrations to handle this week, I'll be staying late tonight, and I'm now stuck dealing with one of our smaller client's workstations that caught a virus and is now having an issue where IE tabs crash and then lock up the application. I just want to be like
How I hate office politics. You start messing with their process to make it easier in the long run and people start bitching about how it won't work and then drag their feet on everything you ask them to do to help the process.
Fun fun.
Mmm politics! I work for a company that contracts out help desk to small/medium businesses that don't want to do their own. Our newest contract is all kinds of fun. See, our Higher-Ups and their Higher-Ups have gotten all chummy, but their mid-level management is convinced that they're all going to be fired and replaced, so they're doing everything in their power to make us look dumb and fail. Normally we would just dump such a contract, but again our bigwigs think this contract's gonna be soooo great, so we're forced to try and make it work.
We've been provided zero documentation on anything they do, so if we get a call that's not a generic Windows/Office question we have to pass it back to the onsite desk, and then get yelled at for not knowing the answer. For every call (including butt-dials) we need to make a ticket. This wouldn't be so bad, but to connect to their ticketing system we need to go through their VPN portal using an RSA key, then connect to a termserver, and then RDC into another machine that only one person can be logged into at a time, that is also used by the onsite employees. Every link of this chain is likely to drop at any time (or an onsite person boots us off the machine), so it often takes a half hour or more to make a single ticket becuase we have to constantly reconnect. Then once we're done with the ticket we'll need to email four different people slightly edited copies of the ticket since their shit-ass ticketing system from 1998 can't do that automatically. Oh and god help you if there are any real or percieved problems with grammar or punctuation in your ticket.
The only saving grace is that we only get two or three calls from them a day, but if the volume ever ramps up it's going to be totally fucked.
EDIT: aaaaaand of course right after I finish my rant I get a call from them... ¬_¬
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life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I've been at work for.... 14.5 hours now
At least this project looks like it will wrap up tonight. We weren't able to get started until late because their Peachtree install shat itself after a helpful employee started overwriting files somehow, and we had to buy a ShadowProtect Small Business license ($400) to facilitate the hardware-independent restore, but by gum we will finish this tonight!
How I hate office politics. You start messing with their process to make it easier in the long run and people start bitching about how it won't work and then drag their feet on everything you ask them to do to help the process.
Fun fun.
Mmm politics! I work for a company that contracts out help desk to small/medium businesses that don't want to do their own. Our newest contract is all kinds of fun. See, our Higher-Ups and their Higher-Ups have gotten all chummy, but their mid-level management is convinced that they're all going to be fired and replaced, so they're doing everything in their power to make us look dumb and fail. Normally we would just dump such a contract, but again our bigwigs think this contract's gonna be soooo great, so we're forced to try and make it work.
We've been provided zero documentation on anything they do, so if we get a call that's not a generic Windows/Office question we have to pass it back to the onsite desk, and then get yelled at for not knowing the answer. For every call (including butt-dials) we need to make a ticket. This wouldn't be so bad, but to connect to their ticketing system we need to go through their VPN portal using an RSA key, then connect to a termserver, and then RDC into another machine that only one person can be logged into at a time, that is also used by the onsite employees. Every link of this chain is likely to drop at any time (or an onsite person boots us off the machine), so it often takes a half hour or more to make a single ticket becuase we have to constantly reconnect. Then once we're done with the ticket we'll need to email four different people slightly edited copies of the ticket since their shit-ass ticketing system from 1998 can't do that automatically. Oh and god help you if there are any real or percieved problems with grammar or punctuation in your ticket.
The only saving grace is that we only get two or three calls from them a day, but if the volume ever ramps up it's going to be totally fucked.
EDIT: aaaaaand of course right after I finish my rant I get a call from them... ¬_¬
Next time your on that machine, setup a vpn back to your firewall so you have a direct connection. Maybe even just a Hamachi setup back to another system. These days its silly have such a convoluted way of getting to a machine.
Now if you don't have admin privledges...keep making that their fault, every single time something happens, ever.
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Apothe0sisHave you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered Userregular
Psh, even our good contracts won't give us admin rights.
We're basically "don't want answer phone... pay contractor do!"
edit: Oh and our boss knows it's shit and they're giving us nothing to work with. She just can't convince her bosses to let it go.
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life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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mrt144King of the NumbernamesRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
You know what I decided I hated; NetBios created serial numbers that need to be rekeyed. Move any application to another server, have to get it rekeyed. We just moved our application server to a faster application server and now I have 8 emails out for rekeys.
You'll get no arguments here, but if it goes how I expect it to go they'll want me to white-box it so they can net another $1K-1500, of which I'll see squat.
Yeah fuck office politics. That's why I love where I work. We work directly for corporate, and the divisions we support are owned by corporate. We are the law when it comes to IT.
We're only two people, and my boss is only in the office 2 days a week. I get to be almost completely removed from the drone politics, but still get invited to lunches. It' s pretty sweet.
The other side of this is that I worked 14 hours today, as looking after 130ish users, plus servers, plus about 40 iPhones alone is actually quite tricky.
Anyone have any experience with one of these laptop stand thingies? One of the employees at my office wants one, but she brings her laptop home every night, and it looks like something you wouldn't want to be putting your laptop into and out of really frequently, but I've never seen one in-person before.
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Mr_Rose83 Blue Ridge Protects the HolyRegistered Userregular
Anyone have any experience with one of these laptop stand thingies? One of the employees at my office wants one, but she brings her laptop home every night, and it looks like something you wouldn't want to be putting your laptop into and out of really frequently, but I've never seen one in-person before.
They are kind of terrible. I mean, they won't ruin your laptop or anything but the whole slotting things in and out is a recipe for trouble, never mind having to disconnect everything.
My devs all got Kensington "easy risers" (plus kbd/mse) which worked much better and are vastly cheaper from what I recall.
Anyone have any experience with one of these laptop stand thingies? One of the employees at my office wants one, but she brings her laptop home every night, and it looks like something you wouldn't want to be putting your laptop into and out of really frequently, but I've never seen one in-person before.
Can't you just get an actual dock with keyboard, mouse and monitor?
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TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
Fffffffff I've tried every driver listed for this Konica Bizhub 362 and nothing makes it through the Add a Printer wizard on this Win7 box. I've tried connecting directly and through a shared printer on the server.
Anyone have any experience with one of these laptop stand thingies? One of the employees at my office wants one, but she brings her laptop home every night, and it looks like something you wouldn't want to be putting your laptop into and out of really frequently, but I've never seen one in-person before.
Can't you just get an actual dock with keyboard, mouse and monitor?
Not if the laptop doesn't have a docking port of some type....which if they didn't buy business class laptops might be the case. You can also get a USB dock, but that means you are running things through the USB bus.
Thanatos, what is the make and model of the laptop in question? If it has a docking port on the bottom you might be better off getting a dock from the manufacturer. They are great.
Sigh, in an effort to save our company some money I made a noobish mistake and will probably have to pay out of pocket for it. At least it's only like 50 bucks.
Fffffffff I've tried every driver listed for this Konica Bizhub 362 and nothing makes it through the Add a Printer wizard on this Win7 box. I've tried connecting directly and through a shared printer on the server.
Have you tried the 250/300/350 drivers? We use them for every model of konica bizhubs.
Anyone have any experience with one of these laptop stand thingies? One of the employees at my office wants one, but she brings her laptop home every night, and it looks like something you wouldn't want to be putting your laptop into and out of really frequently, but I've never seen one in-person before.
Can't you just get an actual dock with keyboard, mouse and monitor?
Not if the laptop doesn't have a docking port of some type....which if they didn't buy business class laptops might be the case. You can also get a USB dock, but that means you are running things through the USB bus.
Thanatos, what is the make and model of the laptop in question? If it has a docking port on the bottom you might be better off getting a dock from the manufacturer. They are great.
Oh, I'm familiar with docking stations; I have a spare one sitting around, in fact, but I'm pretty sure the laptop in question doesn't work with one (I usually get the most affordable laptop I can with Win 7 Pro, and the ones with docking station capability are almost always hundreds of dollars more).
So, I'm working a 6am - 6pm shift by myself becuase a guy got fired. Fun! ¬_¬
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life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 4250dtn to work in a mixed 32-bit/64-bit Windows 7/XP environment. I've tried installing 64-bit drivers on the Windows 7 machines; it just directs me to the Universal Print Driver. I install the Universal Print Driver, it basically says "what the fuck, there's no driver for this!" So, I check HP's site, which tells me to install the driver to the printer, or "use the universal print driver" if there isn't a printer-specific driver. I do what they say, but the printer won't let me add the universal print driver as an "additional driver" to be installed on 64-bit machines.
God, I hate this fucking printer so much. Any ideas, anyone?
I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 4250dtn to work in a mixed 32-bit/64-bit Windows 7/XP environment. I've tried installing 64-bit drivers on the Windows 7 machines; it just directs me to the Universal Print Driver. I install the Universal Print Driver, it basically says "what the fuck, there's no driver for this!" So, I check HP's site, which tells me to install the driver to the printer, or "use the universal print driver" if there isn't a printer-specific driver. I do what they say, but the printer won't let me add the universal print driver as an "additional driver" to be installed on 64-bit machines.
God, I hate this fucking printer so much. Any ideas, anyone?
Is this on a print server? I had a similar issue setting up HP printers for 32/64 bit systems. The drivers for both have to be similar, so you will need to use the universal driver for both 32 bit and 64 bit. I'm using the PCL5 v5.2 drivers for my 4250's.
I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 4250dtn to work in a mixed 32-bit/64-bit Windows 7/XP environment. I've tried installing 64-bit drivers on the Windows 7 machines; it just directs me to the Universal Print Driver. I install the Universal Print Driver, it basically says "what the fuck, there's no driver for this!" So, I check HP's site, which tells me to install the driver to the printer, or "use the universal print driver" if there isn't a printer-specific driver. I do what they say, but the printer won't let me add the universal print driver as an "additional driver" to be installed on 64-bit machines.
God, I hate this fucking printer so much. Any ideas, anyone?
I'm assuming the Windows 7 machines are all 64bit?
Sigh, in an effort to save our company some money I made a noobish mistake and will probably have to pay out of pocket for it. At least it's only like 50 bucks.
What'd you do? Maybe we can help save you $50.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Bought the wrong unreturnable hardware. Just a CPU that was socket compatible but not feature compatible with the mobo it was going in so it didn't work.
Meh, I'd just return it. I don't think they can dock your pay like that unless you work in like China or something. They can write it up and put it in your file, but if you don't sign a paper that says "hey yeah you can dock me for that." then they can't.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I can't return it. Newegg won't take it. And we have no use for it. We don't have any hardware that uses that CPU, and won't since it's old. And they didn't dock my pay. I volunteered to buy it off them since there's nothing we can do with it.
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I've checked, rechecked and verified as best as I can that the Macs are grabbing the proper DNS settings, search domains, etc. I can hit any other website with little to no slowness or latency. I tried running traceroute on the IP of our main site and got the following:
I'm no network engineer, but would a reason for the stall when loading our main site be the stalling between hops 4 and 5? Are the hops between 4 and 5 within our network? Am I even reading this correctly?
...I really need to go get a CS degree one of these days :?
I'm also serious, i need help and we are hiring.
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PSN: Loki_HKD
Hop 4 is a private IP, so it should be a different part of your network. What was the response time for hop 5 (for that matter, what is the general ping time to the site)?
If that website is at the same physical location the response times should be really low (<10ms). But even if it was higher, say, 100ms it shouldn't be terribly slow to load.
CS degree wouldn't help much here, that's all programming
IP at hop 5 (97.x.y.1) is the default gateway your edge router/firewall is trying to talk to (and 97.x.y.2 is the default external IP of your edge router/firewall). This should be a very low latency hop. There's a problem between your edge router/firewall, and the ISP router/modem (97.x.y.1). Is the ISP-provided router/modem onsite? Not sure why you'd get a different trace on Windows vs Mac, have you run a trace from a Windows box?
Is your main website hosted onsite or do you use a 3rd party host?
Response time for hop 5 is pretty much the same as everything else <10ms. It's strange, the only stall in in between hops 4 and 5 but the response times are all good. Ping is fast, pretty much always <15ms.
Honestly, I'm grasping at straws here. I've been following a few patterns but every time I think I've found a pattern I can reproduce, it disappears.
Can you test a few different browsers on the Mac to see if it's the same result for each of them? Safari, Firefox and Internet Exploder for Mac?
Fun fun.
That's what I was starting to end up at, however...
I tested Safari, Firefox and Chrome. They all wind up getting fairly random stalls on the same sites. Even tried IE and Firefox running Windows XP through VirtualBox exhibit the same stalls. I know it's emulation and not Bootcamp but I can't get my laptop to actually set up Bootcamp without crapping all over itself. Natch.
I think I've discovered that one of our internal IP's I get through traceroute seems to be timing out. I don't think it actually has any bearing on what's happening, but it's all I have for now.
Diagnosis: shit is fucked
Analysis: buy a new one
Mmm politics! I work for a company that contracts out help desk to small/medium businesses that don't want to do their own. Our newest contract is all kinds of fun. See, our Higher-Ups and their Higher-Ups have gotten all chummy, but their mid-level management is convinced that they're all going to be fired and replaced, so they're doing everything in their power to make us look dumb and fail. Normally we would just dump such a contract, but again our bigwigs think this contract's gonna be soooo great, so we're forced to try and make it work.
We've been provided zero documentation on anything they do, so if we get a call that's not a generic Windows/Office question we have to pass it back to the onsite desk, and then get yelled at for not knowing the answer. For every call (including butt-dials) we need to make a ticket. This wouldn't be so bad, but to connect to their ticketing system we need to go through their VPN portal using an RSA key, then connect to a termserver, and then RDC into another machine that only one person can be logged into at a time, that is also used by the onsite employees. Every link of this chain is likely to drop at any time (or an onsite person boots us off the machine), so it often takes a half hour or more to make a single ticket becuase we have to constantly reconnect. Then once we're done with the ticket we'll need to email four different people slightly edited copies of the ticket since their shit-ass ticketing system from 1998 can't do that automatically. Oh and god help you if there are any real or percieved problems with grammar or punctuation in your ticket.
The only saving grace is that we only get two or three calls from them a day, but if the volume ever ramps up it's going to be totally fucked.
EDIT: aaaaaand of course right after I finish my rant I get a call from them... ¬_¬
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
At least this project looks like it will wrap up tonight. We weren't able to get started until late because their Peachtree install shat itself after a helpful employee started overwriting files somehow, and we had to buy a ShadowProtect Small Business license ($400) to facilitate the hardware-independent restore, but by gum we will finish this tonight!
Next time your on that machine, setup a vpn back to your firewall so you have a direct connection. Maybe even just a Hamachi setup back to another system. These days its silly have such a convoluted way of getting to a machine.
Now if you don't have admin privledges...keep making that their fault, every single time something happens, ever.
We're basically "don't want answer phone... pay contractor do!"
edit: Oh and our boss knows it's shit and they're giving us nothing to work with. She just can't convince her bosses to let it go.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Which RAID controller does it have? I'm eying a T410 for a new project. Would love to get a pre-built rather then having to white-box it myself.
This one had the PERC H200. I set one up yesterday that had a PERC 6/IR that built two RAID 1 arrays while I was out at lunch.
You should go with pre-built, for sure.
You'll get no arguments here, but if it goes how I expect it to go they'll want me to white-box it so they can net another $1K-1500, of which I'll see squat.
We try not to let it go to our heads though
I never finish anyth
The other side of this is that I worked 14 hours today, as looking after 130ish users, plus servers, plus about 40 iPhones alone is actually quite tricky.
My devs all got Kensington "easy risers" (plus kbd/mse) which worked much better and are vastly cheaper from what I recall.
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Can't you just get an actual dock with keyboard, mouse and monitor?
Not if the laptop doesn't have a docking port of some type....which if they didn't buy business class laptops might be the case. You can also get a USB dock, but that means you are running things through the USB bus.
Thanatos, what is the make and model of the laptop in question? If it has a docking port on the bottom you might be better off getting a dock from the manufacturer. They are great.
I never finish anyth
Oh, I'm familiar with docking stations; I have a spare one sitting around, in fact, but I'm pretty sure the laptop in question doesn't work with one (I usually get the most affordable laptop I can with Win 7 Pro, and the ones with docking station capability are almost always hundreds of dollars more).
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 4250dtn to work in a mixed 32-bit/64-bit Windows 7/XP environment. I've tried installing 64-bit drivers on the Windows 7 machines; it just directs me to the Universal Print Driver. I install the Universal Print Driver, it basically says "what the fuck, there's no driver for this!" So, I check HP's site, which tells me to install the driver to the printer, or "use the universal print driver" if there isn't a printer-specific driver. I do what they say, but the printer won't let me add the universal print driver as an "additional driver" to be installed on 64-bit machines.
God, I hate this fucking printer so much. Any ideas, anyone?
Is this on a print server? I had a similar issue setting up HP printers for 32/64 bit systems. The drivers for both have to be similar, so you will need to use the universal driver for both 32 bit and 64 bit. I'm using the PCL5 v5.2 drivers for my 4250's.
I'm assuming the Windows 7 machines are all 64bit?
Also, HP are the worst.
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