Also, anyone have a link to the Funday Monday cast? I misplaced mine. Hoping to see someone at least manage something awesome with this week's rules (aside from us, of course, and we bent those rules).
Sort of, a lot of people I talked to didn't know him (yes I was nerdy enough to ask girls in bars that...hmm maybe thats why they didn't like me) but they did know of starcraft.
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So, is there a way to control individual units within a control group? I seem to remember someone mentioning this in one of the Day9 Dailies, but I may have been mistaken. Something with tab and CTRL clicking maybe. But I tried this and had no luck.
E.g., if I have a group of zealots, stalkers, and HT, but I want to send the stalkers and HT to point A and the zealots to point B.
If I could build reapers as Toss I'd use one every game. I think the same might be true for zerg. Terrans have a... unique relationship with the concept of reconnaissance. Because of their foolproof, on-demand scouting (yes, I know it's not without cost) and the relatively easier time they have preventing their opponents from learning their own tech choices (leading to a more proactive style in my experience), there's less demand for an early-game scouting unit.
So I just watched Boxer vs Happiness, and he does this cool micro trick where he takes all his vikings, and patrols them over one pixel, making them go all crazy (but also, clumping them all in one tight spot).
The reason I suspect for this is, as the enemy vikings come into range, ALL of Boxer's vikings will attack the enemy vikings, but only the enemy's front vikings will attack Boxer's vikings, and Boxer will retreat before the ones in the back get a chance to attack.
Yeah that's the idea and was amused Artosis was bagging him for it. I don't know how to do it, I think I'll go practice it while waiting for Day9 to start!
I dunno, I think I'd rather have 1 muta than 2 reapers. Though reapers out of a nydus worm would be pretty boss.
Yeah, but the reaper appears long before you can get a muta/phoenix. I often find that there's a window where my scouting worker has been killed or is parked at a tower and when I haven't yet produced an observer/phoenix in which I really don't have a clear idea of what my opponent is doing. This is when a reaper is really nice to have.
So I just watched Boxer vs Happiness, and he does this cool micro trick where he takes all his vikings, and patrols them over one pixel, making them go all crazy (but also, clumping them all in one tight spot).
The reason I suspect for this is, as the enemy vikings come into range, ALL of Boxer's vikings will attack the enemy vikings, but only the enemy's front vikings will attack Boxer's vikings, and Boxer will retreat before the ones in the back get a chance to attack.
Yeah that's the idea and was amused Artosis was bagging him for it. I don't know how to do it, I think I'll go practice it while waiting for Day9 to start!
Artosis bagged him for it because he did it with a raven and that accidentally caused him to drop a pdd.
To do it: 1) select your units, 2) shift-p to queue patrol, 3) click 2 very close spots and then your units will patrol between them. If they're flying units, you'll get the bunching behavior that boxer demonstrated.
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So I just watched Boxer vs Happiness, and he does this cool micro trick where he takes all his vikings, and patrols them over one pixel, making them go all crazy (but also, clumping them all in one tight spot).
The reason I suspect for this is, as the enemy vikings come into range, ALL of Boxer's vikings will attack the enemy vikings, but only the enemy's front vikings will attack Boxer's vikings, and Boxer will retreat before the ones in the back get a chance to attack.
Yeah that's the idea and was amused Artosis was bagging him for it. I don't know how to do it, I think I'll go practice it while waiting for Day9 to start!
Hm... I'm testing it on unit tester. It seems rather difficult to retreat them perfectly. Also, if you just continue the fight, even though your units got more attacks initially, the vikings waste time trying to unclump or something. Perhaps Artosis was right. Blech!!
You also end up all of your vikings firing on his first viking, which, depending on numbers, may cause massive and wasteful overkill on your part.
Grats, guek! That promotion just seemed like a matter of time with all the wins you were racking up on the ladder.
thanks. i was worried though that i was in the same boat joe k has been in for awhile. i have a LOT of games played and it's only recently that i've started really being able to put up a fight against diamonds. i worked my way up from being placed in silver though. whoo!
Alrighty people, I need a good TvZ build order to try out. Any suggestions? Please include the starting information and why you like it.
I have a flavor of the month build for you.
10 Supply
12 Rax
13 Gas
15 OC
15 Marine (Continue to pump marines)
16 Supply
Factory @ 100 gas
Reactor on Barracks at next 50 gas
Swap when done
Make 4-6 hellions for harass (This alone can win games against an unprepared zerg)
27 Armory
Another factory when you can afford it, tech labbed.
Start pumping thors.
This works fairly well against ling/muta. You can even set scvs to auto repair and follow your thors around for maximum dickery.
Not as strong against all roaches, but still somewhat effective.
I usually push around 4 Thors, with marine and hellion support.
Don't be afraid to switch to siege tank/Thor if he gets mass roaches.
Whoa does anyone know what happened to the daily?
perhaps day9 does not realize that funday monday is not optional, it has grown beyond his pale existence. Funday monday MUST be observed. The gods will bring great sorrow to mankind for this transgression.
Alrighty people, I need a good TvZ build order to try out. Any suggestions? Please include the starting information and why you like it.
I have a flavor of the month build for you.
10 Supply
12 Rax
13 Gas
15 OC
15 Marine (Continue to pump marines)
16 Supply
Factory @ 100 gas
Reactor on Barracks at next 50 gas
Swap when done
Make 4-6 hellions for harass (This alone can win games against an unprepared zerg)
27 Armory
Another factory when you can afford it, tech labbed.
Start pumping thors.
This works fairly well against ling/muta. You can even set scvs to auto repair and follow your thors around for maximum dickery.
Not as strong against all roaches, but still somewhat effective.
I usually push around 4 Thors, with marine and hellion support.
Don't be afraid to switch to siege tank/Thor if he gets mass roaches.
Awesome. I've already got the standard opening up to the Factory down pat, so I'll just adjust to the new stuff. When's a good timing for grabbing the second gas? Also, do you have a replay or two I could watch?
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edited October 2010
can anyone explain to me what the problem with patrolling your units is? artosis and tasteless keep mentioning it but I don't understand what it changes.
Alrighty people, I need a good TvZ build order to try out. Any suggestions? Please include the starting information and why you like it.
I have a flavor of the month build for you.
10 Supply
12 Rax
13 Gas
15 OC
15 Marine (Continue to pump marines)
16 Supply
Factory @ 100 gas
Reactor on Barracks at next 50 gas
Swap when done
Make 4-6 hellions for harass (This alone can win games against an unprepared zerg)
27 Armory
Another factory when you can afford it, tech labbed.
Start pumping thors.
This works fairly well against ling/muta. You can even set scvs to auto repair and follow your thors around for maximum dickery.
Not as strong against all roaches, but still somewhat effective.
I usually push around 4 Thors, with marine and hellion support.
Don't be afraid to switch to siege tank/Thor if he gets mass roaches.
Thats why the (rare) Terrans I play are massing Thors. Roaches shut that down quick since they can hit repairing SCVs without having to run around now
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Also, anyone have a link to the Funday Monday cast? I misplaced mine. Hoping to see someone at least manage something awesome with this week's rules (aside from us, of course, and we bent those rules).
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sure but so does almost everything
Sort of, a lot of people I talked to didn't know him (yes I was nerdy enough to ask girls in bars that...hmm maybe thats why they didn't like me) but they did know of starcraft.
hey I'll accept any buff they want to give it, I just wanted to say something it is useful for. doesn't make it a great unit of course
E.g., if I have a group of zealots, stalkers, and HT, but I want to send the stalkers and HT to point A and the zealots to point B.
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Yeah that's the idea and was amused Artosis was bagging him for it. I don't know how to do it, I think I'll go practice it while waiting for Day9 to start!
The reaper does have early game uses. I just think it becomes useless after a certain point in the game.
I think if zerg had reapers they would have to nerf them even more because ling/reaper would be unbeatable.
Artosis bagged him for it because he did it with a raven and that accidentally caused him to drop a pdd.
To do it: 1) select your units, 2) shift-p to queue patrol, 3) click 2 very close spots and then your units will patrol between them. If they're flying units, you'll get the bunching behavior that boxer demonstrated.
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In the chat the mods said it'll be delayed ~1 hour. Technical difficulties.
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I have the patrol thing down pat
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thanks. i was worried though that i was in the same boat joe k has been in for awhile. i have a LOT of games played and it's only recently that i've started really being able to put up a fight against diamonds. i worked my way up from being placed in silver though. whoo!
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how high were you floating minerals? Did you have enough production buildings?
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I have a flavor of the month build for you.
10 Supply
12 Rax
13 Gas
15 OC
15 Marine (Continue to pump marines)
16 Supply
Factory @ 100 gas
Reactor on Barracks at next 50 gas
Swap when done
Make 4-6 hellions for harass (This alone can win games against an unprepared zerg)
27 Armory
Another factory when you can afford it, tech labbed.
Start pumping thors.
This works fairly well against ling/muta. You can even set scvs to auto repair and follow your thors around for maximum dickery.
Not as strong against all roaches, but still somewhat effective.
I usually push around 4 Thors, with marine and hellion support.
Don't be afraid to switch to siege tank/Thor if he gets mass roaches.
perhaps day9 does not realize that funday monday is not optional, it has grown beyond his pale existence. Funday monday MUST be observed. The gods will bring great sorrow to mankind for this transgression.
Awesome. I've already got the standard opening up to the Factory down pat, so I'll just adjust to the new stuff. When's a good timing for grabbing the second gas? Also, do you have a replay or two I could watch?
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Thats why the (rare) Terrans I play are massing Thors. Roaches shut that down quick since they can hit repairing SCVs without having to run around now