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Ace Attorney: 20 Years of Finger Pointing

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  • Corp.ShephardCorp.Shephard Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Granted, I don't think you ever actually see his sword. Maybe he manages to cut the feathers with nothing but his raw samurai spirit.

    My brother insists there must be a sword but as far as I can tell he just cuts feathers with his Ki. That's his power! Edgeworth has indomitable logic, Fransiska has whip skills, Klavier has terrible music! Everyone has a power in Ace Attorney world.

    Plus, in the very first intro cinematic with him you get a full body shot of him and I'm preeeeety sure there's no sword. If I had the DS that had the game downloaded on me I would check.

    Man! I miss Fransiska. I wish they were porting over Investigations 2 instead of Layton versus Wright. I suspect I would enjoy it more.

  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I really enjoyed the line-of-thought mechanic they used to close out the trials

    it's great presentation-wise. Kinda wish it had more consequences or imitated edgeworth's logic system more.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    It's like something out of Danganronpa.

  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    Investigations 2 is so good. Early case 4 spoilers:
    Due to circumstances, Edgeworth was to be Franziska's subordinate during the case.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    I love it when I finally get one of the game's puns.

    Candice Arme -> can disarm

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Case 3, watching a video in an attempt to prove that a certain person could be considered a suspect...

    I thought I figured out the inconsistency on the very first line.
    Watching Professor Means' speech to prove it was prerecorded...he opens saying "good afternoon," and the clock at the top clearly says 10:00. That's a pretty decent reason for suspicion.

    Then Athena just had to notice something even more obvious later...and then we find out that the time was in minutes and not hours.

    Whatever, game! I think that would've been a funnier twist, it's the very first thing he says that trips him up.

    EDIT: geez what the hell

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  • Rex DartRex Dart Registered User regular
    I've been listening to this way too much since starting this game:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvbzsC13Wic

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Case 4, and I'm cross examining an astronaut.

    I leave to go get lunch and Major Tom is on the radio.

    It even has the word "evidence" in the opening lines!

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    You see Blackquill's sword. One of his better animations is when he tries to pull it out with the shackles still on but they prevent him from drawing it.

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    You see Blackquill's sword. One of his better animations is when he tries to pull it out with the shackles still on but they prevent him from drawing it.

    Uh, during that animation it's pretty obvious that it's just his finger. Seriously, I look every time. No hilt, no guard, just a hand with a pointing finger. He wants to point but is prevented from doing so.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Also, check the anime cutscene where he's pulled out of prison to prosecute. His left hip is bare.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Hmm. Guess I misremembered it.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    So the implication is that he points just like Phoenix and everyone else, but the force of his point is so strong that it's basically a sword strike.

    And he can cut people down with it.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    So the implication is that he points just like Phoenix and everyone else, but the force of his point is so strong that it's basically a sword strike.

    And he can cut people down with it.

    Blackquill is basically a Dragon Ball Z character.

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  • Niceguyeddie616Niceguyeddie616 All you feed me is PUFFINS! I need NOURISHMENT!Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    So the implication is that he points just like Phoenix and everyone else, but the force of his point is so strong that it's basically a sword strike.

    And he can cut people down with it.

    Blackquill is basically a Dragon Ball Z character.

    So his appearance is not even his FINAL form?

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    So the implication is that he points just like Phoenix and everyone else, but the force of his point is so strong that it's basically a sword strike.

    And he can cut people down with it.

    Blackquill is basically a Dragon Ball Z character.

    So his appearance is not even his FINAL form?

    Check your scouter, he's suppressing his power level.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    So the implication is that he points just like Phoenix and everyone else, but the force of his point is so strong that it's basically a sword strike.

    And he can cut people down with it.

    Well, yeah.

    It's the logical conclusion.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Holy shit, case 5.

    Holy shit, case 5.
    HOLY SHIT, CASE 5!

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    I'm not that far into case 5 yet (only at the first trial) but I think I know where this is going:
    Clay is the spy and Pearl is gonna end up channeling him.

    Edit: Welp, so much for that theory D:

    Edit #2: Or maybe not? I'M CONFUSED

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  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    Squeeee! That's soon! That's soon! :D ! .... Squeee!


    ....... sorry. I uh, I really enjoyed this game everyone. *cough*

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  • SilentBobXSilentBobX Registered User regular
    It's a pretty long one too, so I think it's worth the bucks.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Well since the game was 30 bucks and had five cases the pricing on this makes a ton of sense.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Is it basically like the original case 5, that was as long as like the first 3 cases?

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Aaaand that's a wrap. What a fantastic game.

    Case 5 really was excellent, it's definitely one of the best cases in the whole series..I couldn't say if I like it or 2-4 better.

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  • WyvernWyvern Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Am I the only one who wasn't really all that impressed by the last case?
    I mean, it certainly has its moments, and the whole seven-years-ago segment is solid, but on the whole I didn't think it stood up to previous finales. (Except maybe Apollo Justice's finale, which I can barely even remember.) The Phantom reveal was kind of neat in a shock value sort of way, but it doesn't really amount to anything. That whole final segment largely fell flat to me, because everything that anybody cared about had already been resolved by then.

    What would have REALLY happened if the Phantom had walked on some technicality? The Blackquill siblings would be pretty mad and...that's about it. Athena's already acquitted, Simon's conviction is already overturned, everybody knows who killed who. I guess it wouldn't be ideal for Edgeworth's whole "make everyone confident in the justice system again" plan, but since the only reason we know that the Dark Age of the Law even exists is that nobody shuts up about it, I wasn't terribly invested in that either. All of the big narrative and emotional payoffs happen in the seven-years-ago case and then you just putter around tying up a handful of minor loose ends where the actual climax was supposed to be.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    What would've happened?

    Well, a dangerous spy would have gone free, GYAXA would likely have completely shut down out of fear of further terrorism, and the murders of Metis, Clay, and (presumably) Bobby Fulbright never have been brought to justice.

    Yes, Athena and Simon were safe at that point (that's even highlighed in the game over sequence at that point in the case), but can you really tell me that you wouldn't have cared if they'd failed to nail that bastard?

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I'm on the third case now, but won't bookmark this thread for fear of spoilers. Although it's probably already been mentioned, this had me cracking up (case 3 spoiler):
    Athena: "Take that Birdman!"
    Blackquill: "Birdman?!"

    Nice jab at the Harvey Birdman blatant rip-off games. :)

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I'm on the third case now, but won't bookmark this thread for fear of spoilers. Although it's probably already been mentioned, this had me cracking up (case 3 spoiler):
    Athena: "Take that Birdman!"
    Blackquill: "Birdman?!"

    Nice jab at the Harvey Birdman blatant rip-off games. :)

    Well, it was published by Capcom of America...

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    So finally beat case 5. Holy shit great game.

    Decided to look at my playtime...

    44 hours and 30 minutes.

    I play slow.

    Ok, admittedly a lot of that time was playing while half distracted by something else.

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »

    Wow, wasn't expecting it that soon. Sweet.

    I think...yeah, this will be my first purchased DLC. God help me.

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  • Rex DartRex Dart Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Case 5:
    I was a bit disappointed that the knife wound never came up when proving the phantom's identity. I thought for sure there'd be a scene where he was forced to remove his gloves and there'd still be a scar on his right hand. Also, the phantom's "angry" animation has him raise his (right) fist at the camera, and you can see a vein pressing against his glove. It made so much sense to me that that would be the result of a big scar, rather than just an extremely prominent vein.

    Then again, I guess it makes sense that a master of disguise would be able to hide a scar. I still think it would have been a neat reveal.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Rex Dart wrote: »
    Case 5:
    I was a bit disappointed that the knife wound never came up when proving the phantom's identity. I thought for sure there'd be a scene where he was forced to remove his gloves and there'd still be a scar on his right hand. Also, the phantom's "angry" animation has him raise his (right) fist at the camera, and you can see a vein pressing against his glove. It made so much sense to me that that would be the result of a big scar, rather than just an extremely prominent vein.

    Then again, I guess it makes sense that a master of disguise would be able to hide a scar. I still think it would have been a neat reveal.

    Oh yeah, I thought the same thing.

    I remember several things I thought for sure were going to come up and would've made sense. There were so many little hints and evidence that might've been used one way or another.

    Even though I know by now that the game rests on a weird justice system where the most improbably stupid things somehow remain hangups toward getting your verdict, it's still really annoying whenever that comes up, like at the end of the last case:
    "Oh I tripped and fell and got blood on the rock a while back." Ok, whatever! Why does the evidence always have to be 100% irrefutable?!

    You prove it's a match by testing Athena's earring. But why stop there? Why doesn't he say, "oh yeah, prove you had the earring all those years ago! Prove it's the same one, and not one that was just made a few minutes ago to entrap me!" And then you show a picture of her with it as a kid, and then he's like "we don't know for sure that it's the exact same earring! Maybe you lost it and just had this one made!" Because why the hell not. The judge isn't on your side, so any doubt they can raise, however unlikely, will get them off the hook.

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    DLC case is live probably everywhere!

  • SightTDWSightTDW Registered User regular
    I just finished case 3.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    So apparently there's a Sharknado reference in the DLC case.

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    So apparently there's a Sharknado reference in the DLC case.

    I can confirm the Sharknado reference in the DLC case.

    Mild DLC spoiler
    In case case 5 wasn't proof enough, Capcom absolutely nailed Pearl's animations, and in fact they're better than in the 2d games. Her swooning animation is especially excellent.

    also oh god Marlon Rimes.

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