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Ace Attorney: 20 Years of Finger Pointing

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    JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Moioink wrote: »
    Did anyone think the twist to AJ would be that Trudi was Pearls? She has some of her animations and one of Maya's and their ages seem to line up given the time skip. I wonder if Nick was just shoehorned in late on in development because they didn't have enough confidence in the new cast. I know people can change a lot in 7 years but it just felt jarring the way his personality was so different and that Maya and Pearls are nowhere. I would have thought he'd have more smarts than to present that evidence and enough contacts to get him off the hook too. I enjoyed it as a game I guess but as a continuation of the AA I don't think I like it.

    Yes, essentially. I'm pretty sure it wasn't actually supposed to be directly related to Phoenix until fairly late in development.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I am pretty sure they added Phoenix late in development. But really, if Phoenix and Ema had been written exactly the same, only with different names, they would still have been bad characters, they just wouldn't have been bad characters that also managed to shit all over the previous games.

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    UltimanecatUltimanecat Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Any ideas if the iphone is getting any more of these beyond the first? Officially addicted now, and I doubt the 99 cent ripoff "Beauty Lawyer Victoria" is going to sate me.

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I can't believe this franchise is already 10 years old.

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    blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Well, we didn't really get it until what, five years ago?

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I don't think the way the characters are in AJ is shitting on anything, really

    If anything I liked them more

    The problem was how they were integrated into the story

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Wait, if the first game came out in 2001, shouldn't it be only 9 years old?

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    JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    They're prepping for next year's anniversary I think

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Most of the characters in AJ were fine for me

    other than Apollo and Klavier

    who are

    you know

    the two most important characters

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Apollo was the only character I even halfway cared about at all.

    It's too bad he wasn't actually allowed to do anything. Everyone else always telling him what to press and/or present, until he had to use his magic bracelet which, as I previously stated, I found to be the worst thing ever.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Yeah my main problem was that he never really got a chance to grow his own personality.

    He felt like he was a secondary character in his own story

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Yeah my main problem was that he never really got a chance to grow his own personality.

    He felt like he was a secondary character in his own story

    This is why I want a sequel, so that they can rectify this.

    I still like AJ, in spite of its faults (the logic in case 3, grrrr). I remember JFA being pretty bad for its adventure game logic but I'd have to play it again to remember all the parts that annoyed me. It did have a fantastic finale, though.

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I hope we get to play as Franziska for at least part of one case in the new Investigations game.

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    JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Oh man, that was the best in AA3 Case 4. The Edgeworth/Fransiska thing.

    I love how everybody was just so much more helpful to Edgeworth than they ever were to Phoenix

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The best thing about that wonderful section was "Psycho Locks"

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    The best thing about that wonderful section was "Psycho Locks"

    Edgeworth: "Larry, tell me the truth. What were you doing last night?"

    Larry: "Um..." *5 psycho locks appear*

    Edgeworth: "Oh screw this. I'll just see you in court."

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I really hope Godot comes back sometime

    maybe as a witness to a murder that happened in prison or something

    alternatively I would hell of play Diego Armando: Ace Attorney

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    NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    And I want a prosecutor who isn't always so cool and collected when I shove the evidence down his throat!

    :winky:

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    Rex DartRex Dart Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Why the hell haven't we had a prosecutor with a monocle yet? I mean, COME ON, Capcom.

    My idea for the ???X??? game is now:

    JUDGE X CANADIAN JUDGE.

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    Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I really hope Godot comes back sometime

    maybe as a witness to a murder that happened in prison or something

    alternatively I would hell of play Diego Armando: Ace Attorney

    I dunno. He's not Godot anymore, his identity as Diego is only relevant to the Fey storyline which is over, and I'm pretty sure they imply he's dead at the end of the game.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    what when do they do that

    he had a gash on his face but I thought he was just serving life in prison

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    also my first exposure to Godot was just random sprites people had ripped

    seeing him have coffee slid down the prosecution table to his hand and his weird headgear, I assumed his gimmick was that he drank so much coffee that it had accelerated his brain to the point where he had telekinetic power

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Honestly, I kind of hope we never see Godot again. I never really got the love for him.

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    PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Which characters do you like from AA anyway?

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    If you don't get the appeal of a smooth-talking classy motherfucker

    I don't know what can be done

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    what when do they do that

    he had a gash on his face but I thought he was just serving life in prison

    During the credits they show him standing with the other two dead characters

    So

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'll take your word for it but I don't remember that at all

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Which characters do you like from AA anyway?
    In no specific order Phoenix, Maya, Edgeworth, Gumshoe, Franziska, Mia, Pearl, Kay, Lang, young Ema, Maggey's...okay, I guess, the Judge, Oldbag. Probably lots of other one-off ones I am unable to remember at this point.

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    Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Which characters do you like from AA anyway?

    In no particuliar order from those I like the most: Godot, Mia Fey, Ema Skye (both versions), the Judge, Manfred von Karma and Damon Gant. Especially Damon Gant.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Gant. :(

    I THOUGHT WE WERE BROS.

    WE WERE GOING SWIMMING YOU DICK.

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'll take your word for it but I don't remember that at all

    Right at the end at 6:56

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NIzYWFhziI&feature=related

    I just took it that his 'Godot' personality was dead. It's up for interpretation, though.

    Also, looking over that last T&T case, so, so good. I love how Phoenix is just like 'Are you trying to scare me?' when faced with an unlimited penalty.

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I think they imply at some point...
    ...that anyone found guilty of murder in this justice system is executed (ie. Dahlia and I think Franziska says Manfred von Karma is dead as well).

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    yeah but at the very least they spend a while on death row

    Wasn't Dahlia executed only a few months before Case 5?

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Apollo was the only character I even halfway cared about at all.

    I cannot fathom this. What did he ever do or say that was worth caring about at all? Is it the hair? He just felt so incredibly generic the whole time.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Maybe that was why.

    He didn't outright suck, so I was tricked into thinking he was decent.

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    SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Am I correct in assuming the chronological order of the games as a whole (barring certain "flashback" cases) goes PW 1, PW 2, Edgeworth, PW 3, and then Apollo? I can't really remember when Manfred gets his shit handed to him, and it seems like he ain't put away in Investigations. I recall there being a Phoenix, Maya and Pearl cameo of sorts in Investigations, But I'm not really sure how it all hangs together.

    Anyway, playing as Edgeworth is the most satisfying thing imaginable. The truth is my bitch and I WILL reveal it to the world.

    Also I still haven't finished PW 3 because fuck that game

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Senshi wrote: »
    Am I correct in assuming the chronological order of the games as a whole (barring certain "flashback" cases) goes PW 1, PW 2, Edgeworth, PW 3, and then Apollo? I can't really remember when Manfred gets his shit handed to him, and it seems like he ain't put away in Investigations. I recall there being a Phoenix, Maya and Pearl cameo of sorts in Investigations, But I'm not really sure how it all hangs together.

    Anyway, playing as Edgeworth is the most satisfying thing imaginable. The truth is my bitch and I WILL reveal it to the world.

    Also I still haven't finished PW 3 because fuck that game

    Manfred in Investigations is a flashback.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Barring flashbacks, it's PW1, 2, 3, AAI, AJ.

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    SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Yes, I know that, but his predicament is never really alluded to and somehow Franziska seems a little too chummy. Doesn't seem like her father is either dead or in prison, and I think she mentions his flawless 40-year win streak at some point. Maybe nobody told her he killed a man or whatever.

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