pvp arenas is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Seriously, they're bad in every game they're in and given how much of a clusterfuck the've been on WoW, the idea that they'd put them in Diablo 3 is mind boggling.
Hopefully they're completely ignorable and give zero rewards.
EDIT: And the first time a class gets nerfed because of arenas, fuck it. next game.
Definitely still going either barbarian or Witch doctor.
Witch doctor because evil casters are generally my thing (walorck, necromancer, etc).
Barbarian because heavy melee classes get all the cool gear.
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Demon Hunter has potential. I really enjoyed my Amazon back in the day, so I can see rolling one.
The four new classes make me like the barbarian even less. I would've liked to see a new heavy melee class. But I guess there are only so many ways to have a big armored guy run around and beat the shit out of people.
I swear to god if they start fucking with the game for god damn arena's I'll...bitch. Take that Blizzard!
Hopefully they talk about something cool for Wizards. :P
True. I don't want another WoW arenas situation where it periodically ruins the game and homogenizes the classes to make it "easier to balance derp derp."
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pvp arenas is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Seriously, they're bad in every game they're in and given how much of a clusterfuck the've been on WoW, the idea that they'd put them in Diablo 3 is mind boggling.
Hopefully they're completely ignorable and give zero rewards.
EDIT: And the first time a class gets nerfed because of arenas, fuck it. next game.
Yeah, it's a much better idea to give people the pleasure of griefing the people just trying to PvE. :x
In a game that's focused on it, that's designed around it, yes it is. See League of Legends.
In WoW I hated it because the PvP balance changes fucked up my PvE abilities repeatedly. There's plenty of reason to believe it can or will happen again here.
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I don't know if everyone hates them per se, but lots of WoW players (myself included) have a bad taste in their mouths from how the Arenas kind of fucked with WoW's PvE development. That said, if they take it to Diablo and make it fun there, super. So long as they don't fuck with Diablo's PvE as a result.
I can't see any of this shit. Why are people excited about the PvP arenas? Did they show something that doesn't look stupid and awful like WoW's arenas?
I can't see any of this shit. Why are people excited about the PvP arenas? Did they show something that doesn't look stupid and awful like WoW's arenas?
It looked like the arena with the bridge, except without the bridge and with more pillars. Because pillars make PvP fun.
the wow pvp/pve balance talk is a little scary, but I have no wow experience so gotta just have faith in blizzard
arenas look fun, definitely an improvement on random griefing, but I could have done without pvp altogether, dont care much either way. if it turns out good ill try it.
I like how far this is from diablo II, definitely experimenting with this in a way they couldnt/shouldnt have in sc II
if they keep PvP seprate from PvE why would arena changes effect ur gameplay?
Because they'll start taking pve abilities and say "oh man that's unbalanced in pvp we better change the ability." This has happened since the first arena in WoW and it sucks monkey balls (obviously).
They'll also start making different abilities the same for the sake of "balance." Sheep used to last a long time (because it also healed). Now it lasts the same as every other CC. It takes away the flavor of the game.
We. Do. Not. Want. This. Shit. in Diablo 3. Hopefully it'll be like D2 where if they need to balance shit, they do it only for pvp, but I don't have high hopes.
pvp arenas is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Seriously, they're bad in every game they're in and given how much of a clusterfuck the've been on WoW, the idea that they'd put them in Diablo 3 is mind boggling.
Hopefully they're completely ignorable and give zero rewards.
EDIT: And the first time a class gets nerfed because of arenas, fuck it. next game.
Yeah, it's a much better idea to give people the pleasure of griefing the people just trying to PvE. :x
This is dumb.
The obvious solution would be to have pvp disabled by default, like it was supposed to be in D2, and for blizzard to actually fix the shit when people break it, so you can't get griefed.
Problem solved.
Plus the idea that puting in an arena will stop people who grief from griefing is idiotic. Totally different mindsets.
WoW has been dicked over too many times by worthless pvp and arena bullshit, screwing over pve and raiding, which is, you know, the actual game, not some tacked on shit, that this announcement spells nothing but bad things for D3.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if they make pvp arenas totally secondary and never try to balance around it. But from WoW I know better than this. I fully expect each patch to break a class because some shitfucker found a way to abuse something in pvp so the core game gets dicked.
pvp arenas is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Seriously, they're bad in every game they're in and given how much of a clusterfuck the've been on WoW, the idea that they'd put them in Diablo 3 is mind boggling.
Hopefully they're completely ignorable and give zero rewards.
EDIT: And the first time a class gets nerfed because of arenas, fuck it. next game.
Yeah, it's a much better idea to give people the pleasure of griefing the people just trying to PvE. :x
This is dumb.
The obvious solution would be to have pvp disabled by default, like it was supposed to be in D2, and for blizzard to actually fix the shit when people break it, so you can't get griefed.
Problem solved.
Plus the idea that puting in an arena will stop people who grief from griefing is idiotic. Totally different mindsets.
WoW has been dicked over too many times by worthless pvp and arena bullshit, screwing over pve and raiding, which is, you know, the actual game, not some tacked on shit, that this announcement spells nothing but bad things for D3.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if they make pvp arenas totally secondary and never try to balance around it. But from WoW I know better than this. I fully expect each patch to break a class because some shitfucker found a way to abuse something in pvp so the core game gets dicked.
I guess I assumed that balancing PvP would be treated completely separate from PvE balance. In D2, they nerfed the crap out of skills when they're used on other players. I just figured D3 would be handled in the same manner. And until I'm proven wrong, I'm going to continue with my assumption so that my hype-boner doesn't soften in even the slightest amount.
I've never played WoW so I wasn't aware that it messed with balance that much. Diablo 3 seems like it could have really neat mechanics for a PvP/team PvP game though, and I get the impression that a lot of people would prefer PvE only which I think would be an incredible waste of potential. Hopefully the limited number of classes and revamped tech tree mechanics reduce a lot of the balancing issues.
I can't see any of this shit. Why are people excited about the PvP arenas? Did they show something that doesn't look stupid and awful like WoW's arenas?
It looked like the arena with the bridge, except without the bridge and with more pillars. Because pillars make PvP fun.
If it's just "two teams go in and fight until one team is all dead," then PASS.
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Hopefully they're completely ignorable and give zero rewards.
EDIT: And the first time a class gets nerfed because of arenas, fuck it. next game.
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Fuck yeah!: Barbarian, Monk
Nice!: Witch Doctor, Wizard
Meh: Demon Hunter
Fuck yeah!: Monk, Monk, Monk, Monk, Monk
Nice!: Witch Doctor, Mage, Barbarian, Demon Hunter
Meh: N/A
Goddamnit: No release date announcement
Witch doctor because evil casters are generally my thing (walorck, necromancer, etc).
Barbarian because heavy melee classes get all the cool gear.
The four new classes make me like the barbarian even less. I would've liked to see a new heavy melee class. But I guess there are only so many ways to have a big armored guy run around and beat the shit out of people.
PvP balancing always interfered with PvE balancing in WoW.
It could be good in D3, but I don't have a lot of hope.
True. I don't want another WoW arenas situation where it periodically ruins the game and homogenizes the classes to make it "easier to balance derp derp."
PvP is fun, but arena PvP isn't.
Yeah, it's a much better idea to give people the pleasure of griefing the people just trying to PvE. :x
In a game that's focused on it, that's designed around it, yes it is. See League of Legends.
In WoW I hated it because the PvP balance changes fucked up my PvE abilities repeatedly. There's plenty of reason to believe it can or will happen again here.
I got enough of that crap in WoW. And If I want to just kill some mans I'll play Halo.
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Items specific to PVP arenas will always exclude players.
Because they won't keep it separate. At least, they never did in WoW.
Yeah, if.
It looked like the arena with the bridge, except without the bridge and with more pillars. Because pillars make PvP fun.
surprised im the only demon hunter lover
the wow pvp/pve balance talk is a little scary, but I have no wow experience so gotta just have faith in blizzard
arenas look fun, definitely an improvement on random griefing, but I could have done without pvp altogether, dont care much either way. if it turns out good ill try it.
I like how far this is from diablo II, definitely experimenting with this in a way they couldnt/shouldnt have in sc II
Because they'll start taking pve abilities and say "oh man that's unbalanced in pvp we better change the ability." This has happened since the first arena in WoW and it sucks monkey balls (obviously).
They'll also start making different abilities the same for the sake of "balance." Sheep used to last a long time (because it also healed). Now it lasts the same as every other CC. It takes away the flavor of the game.
We. Do. Not. Want. This. Shit. in Diablo 3. Hopefully it'll be like D2 where if they need to balance shit, they do it only for pvp, but I don't have high hopes.
Fuck yeah!: MONK
Nice!: Barb, Witch Doctor, Demon Hunter
Meh: Wizard
This is dumb.
The obvious solution would be to have pvp disabled by default, like it was supposed to be in D2, and for blizzard to actually fix the shit when people break it, so you can't get griefed.
Problem solved.
Plus the idea that puting in an arena will stop people who grief from griefing is idiotic. Totally different mindsets.
WoW has been dicked over too many times by worthless pvp and arena bullshit, screwing over pve and raiding, which is, you know, the actual game, not some tacked on shit, that this announcement spells nothing but bad things for D3.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if they make pvp arenas totally secondary and never try to balance around it. But from WoW I know better than this. I fully expect each patch to break a class because some shitfucker found a way to abuse something in pvp so the core game gets dicked.
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But whatever, I like this new class and Diablo III still vibrates with potential.
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I guess I assumed that balancing PvP would be treated completely separate from PvE balance. In D2, they nerfed the crap out of skills when they're used on other players. I just figured D3 would be handled in the same manner. And until I'm proven wrong, I'm going to continue with my assumption so that my hype-boner doesn't soften in even the slightest amount.
New favorite class? I think so.
Supposed to have a lot of new info in it
What is supposed to be a link to the PVP Arena stuff is just a duplicate of the Demon Hunter trailer.
it's a waste of time and resources
this will not stop me from buying this at release date and just straight crushing dudes with a barby
Ah, whoops. Thanks for the heads up.
Nox fucking rocked.
because pvp doesn't really work well in diablo clones by their nature
I'm assuming from what I can tell the gary's mod thing isn't a diablo clone.
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