If you turn on No Fail from the start, it still counts.
And I wouldn't worry about it being 'fair' or not. No Fail doesn't change whether or not you suck at the song, it only makes it so you can finish it. Getting a FC with No Fail isn't any different than getting it without.
I'm in the middle of Crazy Train tonight and I just disconnect. Huh. Batteries in the guitar are fresh ... I quickly figure out my RB2 dongle just up and quit. I press the button, it *very* faintly flashes once and that's it. Apparently dongle failure is a repeated problem with the Wii RB2 guitar.
But my google fu fails me past this point. Surely I shouldn't have to buy an entirely new guitar just to get the dongle? I can't find any warranty from EA past 60 days, long past ... can I just buy a new one and where?
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Double bass is just a metal "thing". Like most budding metal drummers eagerly await the day they can buy their first double kick pedal.
Sadly, this is true, at least with the drummers I know. If only Nicko McBrain from Iron Maiden would come by their house and kick their asses and tell them that one foot (and no shoes) is all you need for metal.
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More than double pedal, I'd like to have an actual pedal and pad so that you'd know exactly when the hit was occurring. It would be extremely helpful for any quick pedal work.
I didn't know that. Maybe I can finally finish Blinded By Fear.
Yeah. Unsurprisingly, there are Threads about how it's unfair that No Fail doesn't prevent leaderboards or achievements from registering. I guess somebody has to be the 'Stop Having Fun, Guys!' guy on a given subject.
Forgive me if this has been answered - but is there a difference in the RB3 versions of the Bon Jovi tracks for non-pro mode gamers? Will I get stuck with two versions of 3 songs if I buy the whole package?
No keys or harmonies. That's the difference between them.
Well, I plan on keys down the road so I guess I'll have to do the package then. Will it list the tracks twice then - or is it smart enough to have the RB3 version override the other versions?
You Give Love a Bad Name (RB3) also makes use of the trills.
Living on a Prayer and Wanted Dead or Alive have the new drumroll chartings in them too (Dead or Alive also charts some notes they missed in RB1)
edit: you will have two listed versions of each songs. However, if you were to use filtering (ie "show me songs that have harmonies") then they wouldn't appear.
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More than double pedal, I'd like to have an actual pedal and pad so that you'd know exactly when the hit was occurring. It would be extremely helpful for any quick pedal work.
You mean you would like to have that, or that you don't know you can already get it?
Like bitching at the 'fun' in AC/DC charts. What the actual fuck did you think you were going to get?
I didn't realize they would chart all the dead space that showed up between the songs in the live recording. I mean, fuck!
(I still would have bought it anyway.)
Well, I meant the actual music portions. If you look around long enough, and it shouldn't take much time, you'll find a YouTube video with complaints that the charting is terrible because they expected something 'better'. (Read: harder.) Complaints about guitar chordfests from punk bands is particularly egregious.
If you watch their live shows, it's usually an excuse to get Angus to some other part of the arena. HMX stated they did some editing. Clearly not as much as they should have since you can't see what's really happening.
'Epic' if such a term can apply, but I definitely agree. For game purposes, that shit was the silliest of goosery.
I only paid $5 for the ACDC pack - I do enjoy Money Talks or Thunderstuck as a way to remember middle/high school. Probably a nostalgia thing more than a quality thing though.
More than double pedal, I'd like to have an actual pedal and pad so that you'd know exactly when the hit was occurring. It would be extremely helpful for any quick pedal work.
You mean you would like to have that, or that you don't know you can already get it?
I'm not currently aware of any way you can get such a thing without springing for an entire electric kit. I could very well be wrong about this. If I'm not though, for the cost of buying even a cheap electric kit, I can buy some nice pieces for my real kit.
I'm saying that having an actual pad for the bass drum in RB should be standard by this point, or at least available as an official add-on if it isn't already.
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More than double pedal, I'd like to have an actual pedal and pad so that you'd know exactly when the hit was occurring. It would be extremely helpful for any quick pedal work.
You mean you would like to have that, or that you don't know you can already get it?
I'm not currently aware of any way you can get such a thing without springing for an entire electric kit. I could very well be wrong about this. If I'm not though, for the cost of buying even a cheap electric kit, I can buy some nice pieces for my real kit.
I'm saying that having an actual pad for the bass drum in RB should be standard by this point, or at least available as an official add-on if it isn't already.
Yeah, there's a thing called a KickBox I believe that lets you use a real pedal with a kick pad. I think there's also some custom pedals that use a pad.
Edit: Something like these, though they're not cheap:
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So... How many of you would be interests in reading my "Behind the Music" of my totally fake band?
And where's a good place to post it? Here? Another site?
So, what's the general feeling on the new Madcatz drum set with the pro cymbals? I haven't bought a new set since RB1 (I actually bought two, and have gone through three of the kick pedals). From what I understand, it's not that much of an improvement over the RB2 set, and is almost identical to the Beatles set, but, because it's wireless, and probably has quieter pads and a metal pedal, I would expect it to be quite a bit better than the RB1 set. Is that about right?
So... How many of you would be interests in reading my "Behind the Music" of my totally fake band?
And where's a good place to post it? Here? Another site?
Eh. Here's probably as good a place as any. Though if it was really large, it might be better offsite with a link. I know there's at least one thread on the Official Forums were people have done this.
Anybody else think that unplayed songs should be favoured in random choices a bit more than highly ranked songs? I mean, I ranked songs high because I like them and all, but getting the same songs over and over doesn't help with three or four hundred songs still going unplayed.
Oh, yeah. For anybody who cares, you unlock the Bo Diddley Gretsch by beating the Hall of Fame set/getting the goal. I don't know which actually unlocked it and I did it on Expert guitar, so that might also be a factor. But it's in the game.
Oh, yeah. For anybody who cares, you unlock the Bo Diddley Gretsch by beating the Hall of Fame set/getting the goal. I don't know which actually unlocked it and I did it on Expert guitar, so that might also be a factor. But it's in the game.
Yeah, some how I have it unlocked (maybe you just have to hit Hall of Famer level). I was scrolling through the guitars and boom, there it was.
And I'll probably set up a blog site or something for my band's story because I wanna take some pics from the Rockband.com site for some of the characters and take some other pictures off the TV for others. Does the "Jukebox Mode" trick still work for RB3 (Performance, no-fail, vocals)?
Oh, yeah. For anybody who cares, you unlock the Bo Diddley Gretsch by beating the Hall of Fame set/getting the goal. I don't know which actually unlocked it and I did it on Expert guitar, so that might also be a factor. But it's in the game.
The Hall of Fame unlocks something specific to the instrument you're using. I was on vox, and got a clear microphone for it. Makes sense, since there's a separate goal for the Hall of Fame for each instrument.
Does the "Jukebox Mode" trick still work for RB3 (Performance, no-fail, vocals)?
It probably doesn't affect your use, but the other part of the "jukebox" trick was setting up a big playlist and letting it run, and this doesn't work as elegantly any more since you need to press "A" to advance after each song now. That's an improvement for most cases, but stopped me from being able to have Party Shuffle running as an "attract mode" until players jumped in.
Viacom today said they plan to sell the company behind Rock Band, Kinect's Dance Central and the original Guitar Hero.
The mammoth company didn't explain why they want to sell off Harmonix, but it's likely tied to not just the slow down in gaming sales, but also what seems to be a distinct drop off in interest in the instruments-required rhythm games.
No word on who might be picking Boston-based Harmonix up, but since the developer has an on-going publishing deal with Electronic Arts, the second largest game maker in the world, that seems like a distinct possibility.
Who owns the Rock Band IP? Is this another HMX/Red Octane type split where the franchise will pretty much cease to be as we know it?
The timing on that's pretty darn suspicious... I suspect RB3 didn't sell all that well and Viacom wants to show investors they're taking action before they get panicky.
I'd be surprised if Viacom wanted to hold onto the IP... from the sound of the news release it sounds like they want to wash their hands of this entirely.
Even so, this really isn't a good sign.
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David_TA fashion yes-man is no good to me.Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered Userregular
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The creator of the Guitar Hero IP retained ownership of it. I'd be surprised if the same thing didn't happen here.
Although maybe now Red Octane will rise from the ashes and join forces with Harmonix to make GUITAR BAND!
Wait, ROCK HERO!
That kinda works.
Edit: Seriously, what'll happen is that they'll go join EA and things will work much better, because MTV Games just wasn't a very good publisher. As witnessed by the fact that they had to go to EA for distribution to begin with. The thing it might, might, affect is future tracks, but I think Harmonix has enough of a relationship with the various companies that the loss of the MTV name isn't gonna do much to them.
If they stop putting out DLC, it's not going to stop you from enjoying the DLC you already have.
EDIT: Actually, I was kinda half kidding, but now that I re-read that... that's kind of evil. You don't care about the company, or the people who work there. You only care about support for the product that you've put money into? How does that work? You have what you have and that money is gone. If DLC were to stop today, you really would have all of the stuff you've paid for still. It just doesn't compute.
While this certianly isn't FUN for Harmonix, I dont think this is all doom and gloom.
Theyve pretty much cornered the music game industry with RB3, and even though its a small section of the overall video game audience, its most certainly a lot of money. They dominate a niche, and someone will want a part of that.
Also, other than the promotion all over VH1, I doubt this will have much of an impact on ARTISTS at this stage. In fact Ive already read comments that bands like Led Zepplin that BOYCOTT MTV may look at this as a plus. Most of the artists who maybe signed on because of Viacom are either happy with it and will continue, or not.
I mean who owns "Lips"? They churn out crazy amounts of DLC from a ton of artists.
My guess is either EA will buy them, or because of the RBN stuff, Dance Central, and everything else that's skewed 360 - Microsoft will buy them. Hell, because of Pro Mode, and how they've positioned themselves, I could see them being bought by Fender or something, and positioned more as a "get into music!" game. Which is what they're doing anyways.
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David_TA fashion yes-man is no good to me.Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered Userregular
Seriously, what'll happen is that they'll go join EA and things will work much better, because MTV Games just wasn't a very good publisher. As witnessed by the fact that they had to go to EA for distribution to begin with. The thing it might, might, affect is future tracks, but I think Harmonix has enough of a relationship with the various companies that the loss of the MTV name isn't gonna do much to them.
Except that EA has been kinda iffy on Rock Band lately, since they waited until the last minute to decide to publish RB3. I really doubt that Viacom's action will make them any more confident.
It seems obvious that this has been in the works for a while, and nothing short of MW2 Day 1 sales would have saved Harmonix from being sold.
Actually, it sounds like something they hastily put into the earnings report to keep investors from panicking at the low sales. Big businesses do this all the time. In fact, it's entirely possible that Harmonix themselves didn't know about the sale intentions until today.
If they stop putting out DLC, it's not going to stop you from enjoying the DLC you already have.
EDIT: Actually, I was kinda half kidding, but now that I re-read that... that's kind of evil. You don't care about the company, or the people who work there. You only care about support for the product that you've put money into? How does that work? You have what you have and that money is gone. If DLC were to stop today, you really would have all of the stuff you've paid for still. It just doesn't compute.
haha wow you read a lot into one sentence there chief
I'm not worried about Harmonix because they proved they were behind the success of Guitar Hero, and now have two amazing franchises on their pedegree. They'll do fine.
But don't start in with the "you can still play the DLC you own!" apologist crap already. Rock Band has always been sold as a platform, and there's a reason people have been getting excited for what new tracks are coming out every week for 3 years now, it's every bit as much of the Rock Band Experience (tm) as anything else. They aren't legally obligated to continue, but the expectation is there and I think that consumers are allowed to feel some sense of loss were they to stop. Which they might not even do.
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And I wouldn't worry about it being 'fair' or not. No Fail doesn't change whether or not you suck at the song, it only makes it so you can finish it. Getting a FC with No Fail isn't any different than getting it without.
I didn't know that. Maybe I can finally finish Blinded By Fear.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
I'm in the middle of Crazy Train tonight and I just disconnect. Huh. Batteries in the guitar are fresh ... I quickly figure out my RB2 dongle just up and quit. I press the button, it *very* faintly flashes once and that's it. Apparently dongle failure is a repeated problem with the Wii RB2 guitar.
But my google fu fails me past this point. Surely I shouldn't have to buy an entirely new guitar just to get the dongle? I can't find any warranty from EA past 60 days, long past ... can I just buy a new one and where?
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Sadly, this is true, at least with the drummers I know. If only Nicko McBrain from Iron Maiden would come by their house and kick their asses and tell them that one foot (and no shoes) is all you need for metal.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Yeah. Unsurprisingly, there are Threads about how it's unfair that No Fail doesn't prevent leaderboards or achievements from registering. I guess somebody has to be the 'Stop Having Fun, Guys!' guy on a given subject.
Well, I plan on keys down the road so I guess I'll have to do the package then. Will it list the tracks twice then - or is it smart enough to have the RB3 version override the other versions?
Living on a Prayer and Wanted Dead or Alive have the new drumroll chartings in them too (Dead or Alive also charts some notes they missed in RB1)
edit: you will have two listed versions of each songs. However, if you were to use filtering (ie "show me songs that have harmonies") then they wouldn't appear.
You mean you would like to have that, or that you don't know you can already get it?
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
I didn't realize they would chart all the dead space that showed up between the songs in the live recording. I mean, fuck!
(I still would have bought it anyway.)
Well, I meant the actual music portions. If you look around long enough, and it shouldn't take much time, you'll find a YouTube video with complaints that the charting is terrible because they expected something 'better'. (Read: harder.) Complaints about guitar chordfests from punk bands is particularly egregious.
If you watch their live shows, it's usually an excuse to get Angus to some other part of the arena. HMX stated they did some editing. Clearly not as much as they should have since you can't see what's really happening.
'Epic' if such a term can apply, but I definitely agree. For game purposes, that shit was the silliest of goosery.
I'm not currently aware of any way you can get such a thing without springing for an entire electric kit. I could very well be wrong about this. If I'm not though, for the cost of buying even a cheap electric kit, I can buy some nice pieces for my real kit.
I'm saying that having an actual pad for the bass drum in RB should be standard by this point, or at least available as an official add-on if it isn't already.
Yeah, there's a thing called a KickBox I believe that lets you use a real pedal with a kick pad. I think there's also some custom pedals that use a pad.
Edit: Something like these, though they're not cheap:
http://www.rockbandkickbox.com/store/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=32
http://www.rockbandkickbox.com/store/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=33
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
I should not be four starring bohemian rhapsody
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And where's a good place to post it? Here? Another site?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dblc06e7A8U
Eh. Here's probably as good a place as any. Though if it was really large, it might be better offsite with a link. I know there's at least one thread on the Official Forums were people have done this.
Anybody else think that unplayed songs should be favoured in random choices a bit more than highly ranked songs? I mean, I ranked songs high because I like them and all, but getting the same songs over and over doesn't help with three or four hundred songs still going unplayed.
Yeah, some how I have it unlocked (maybe you just have to hit Hall of Famer level). I was scrolling through the guitars and boom, there it was.
And I'll probably set up a blog site or something for my band's story because I wanna take some pics from the Rockband.com site for some of the characters and take some other pictures off the TV for others. Does the "Jukebox Mode" trick still work for RB3 (Performance, no-fail, vocals)?
The Hall of Fame unlocks something specific to the instrument you're using. I was on vox, and got a clear microphone for it. Makes sense, since there's a separate goal for the Hall of Fame for each instrument.
It probably doesn't affect your use, but the other part of the "jukebox" trick was setting up a big playlist and letting it run, and this doesn't work as elegantly any more since you need to press "A" to advance after each song now. That's an improvement for most cases, but stopped me from being able to have Party Shuffle running as an "attract mode" until players jumped in.
Who owns the Rock Band IP? Is this another HMX/Red Octane type split where the franchise will pretty much cease to be as we know it?
Oh, wait, Wall Street Journal
Viacom quarterly earnings statement
From the 1st page of the most recent Statement:
I'd be surprised if Viacom wanted to hold onto the IP... from the sound of the news release it sounds like they want to wash their hands of this entirely.
Even so, this really isn't a good sign.
Although maybe now Red Octane will rise from the ashes and join forces with Harmonix to make GUITAR BAND!
Wait, ROCK HERO!
That kinda works.
Edit: Seriously, what'll happen is that they'll go join EA and things will work much better, because MTV Games just wasn't a very good publisher. As witnessed by the fact that they had to go to EA for distribution to begin with. The thing it might, might, affect is future tracks, but I think Harmonix has enough of a relationship with the various companies that the loss of the MTV name isn't gonna do much to them.
I'm not panicking, Harmonix isn't going anywhere I'm sure.
Of course, I will be upset if we get Air Guitar Hero for Kinect in lieu of any more Rock Band.
If they stop putting out DLC, it's not going to stop you from enjoying the DLC you already have.
EDIT: Actually, I was kinda half kidding, but now that I re-read that... that's kind of evil. You don't care about the company, or the people who work there. You only care about support for the product that you've put money into? How does that work? You have what you have and that money is gone. If DLC were to stop today, you really would have all of the stuff you've paid for still. It just doesn't compute.
Theyve pretty much cornered the music game industry with RB3, and even though its a small section of the overall video game audience, its most certainly a lot of money. They dominate a niche, and someone will want a part of that.
Also, other than the promotion all over VH1, I doubt this will have much of an impact on ARTISTS at this stage. In fact Ive already read comments that bands like Led Zepplin that BOYCOTT MTV may look at this as a plus. Most of the artists who maybe signed on because of Viacom are either happy with it and will continue, or not.
I mean who owns "Lips"? They churn out crazy amounts of DLC from a ton of artists.
My guess is either EA will buy them, or because of the RBN stuff, Dance Central, and everything else that's skewed 360 - Microsoft will buy them. Hell, because of Pro Mode, and how they've positioned themselves, I could see them being bought by Fender or something, and positioned more as a "get into music!" game. Which is what they're doing anyways.
Oh jesus, I could totally see that happening and it would suuuuck. Now I actually am worried.
Except that EA has been kinda iffy on Rock Band lately, since they waited until the last minute to decide to publish RB3. I really doubt that Viacom's action will make them any more confident.
Actually, it sounds like something they hastily put into the earnings report to keep investors from panicking at the low sales. Big businesses do this all the time. In fact, it's entirely possible that Harmonix themselves didn't know about the sale intentions until today.
haha wow you read a lot into one sentence there chief
I'm not worried about Harmonix because they proved they were behind the success of Guitar Hero, and now have two amazing franchises on their pedegree. They'll do fine.
But don't start in with the "you can still play the DLC you own!" apologist crap already. Rock Band has always been sold as a platform, and there's a reason people have been getting excited for what new tracks are coming out every week for 3 years now, it's every bit as much of the Rock Band Experience (tm) as anything else. They aren't legally obligated to continue, but the expectation is there and I think that consumers are allowed to feel some sense of loss were they to stop. Which they might not even do.