The other thing is: even if Ostermann's the only one to ever figure it out, what does the imply about the rest of the process? Where do all those other disintegrated consciousness's go? They must linger for a pretty long time, which rather implies that other interesting things are probably happening.
Where are the government research projects trying to figure out how to make more of Dr Manhattan. Where are the legions of desparate people wanting to get disintegrated in intrinsic field subtractors so they can become like Dr Manhattan.
I think there's a part in the graphic novel where they talk about being unable to duplicate the circumstances that led to Dr Manhattan.
Say you have an infinite number of scrabble tiles, and an equal amount of each letter (infinite lol)
what is the probability that on a random draw you will be able to spell a word (lets say, Dog)
Would it just be (1/26)^3?
Don't say "infinite", picking a random element out of an infinite set is not well-defined. Say instead that you have equal amounts of each letter and that you put back each tile after drawing it, so that their probabilities remain the same.
It also seems like it would be trivially easy for the doctor to stop 100% of the missiles fired in a hypothetical WW3. Just send everything above the pacific and atlantic ocean flying into space. Or make a 200 mile long wall of viscous jelly between the two countries. Or just make a million of yourself and individually stop each missile.
Hell, before the first shot is fired just make a million of yourself and go turn each nuke into a marshmallow.
He's not entirely omnipotent, just very, very close to it.
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It also seems like it would be trivially easy for the doctor to stop 100% of the missiles fired in a hypothetical WW3. Just send everything above the pacific and atlantic ocean flying into space. Or make a 200 mile long wall of viscous jelly between the two countries. Or just make a million of yourself and individually stop each missile.
Hell, before the first shot is fired just make a million of yourself and go turn each nuke into a marshmallow.
He's not entirely omnipotent, just very, very close to it.
So, what, he can only make six copies of himself? He can turn bullets into marshmallows but not missiles? He can only create enough jelly for a 1 mile wall? Seems like his powers are "whatever's convenient for the plot."
It also seems like it would be trivially easy for the doctor to stop 100% of the missiles fired in a hypothetical WW3. Just send everything above the pacific and atlantic ocean flying into space. Or make a 200 mile long wall of viscous jelly between the two countries. Or just make a million of yourself and individually stop each missile.
Hell, before the first shot is fired just make a million of yourself and go turn each nuke into a marshmallow.
He's not entirely omnipotent, just very, very close to it.
So, what, he can only make six copies of himself? He can turn bullets into marshmallows but not missiles? He can only create enough jelly for a 1 mile wall? Seems like his powers are "whatever's convenient for the plot."
It also seems like it would be trivially easy for the doctor to stop 100% of the missiles fired in a hypothetical WW3. Just send everything above the pacific and atlantic ocean flying into space. Or make a 200 mile long wall of viscous jelly between the two countries. Or just make a million of yourself and individually stop each missile.
Hell, before the first shot is fired just make a million of yourself and go turn each nuke into a marshmallow.
He's not entirely omnipotent, just very, very close to it.
So, what, he can only make six copies of himself? He can turn bullets into marshmallows but not missiles? He can only create enough jelly for a 1 mile wall? Seems like his powers are "whatever's convenient for the plot."
I believe the range of them is limited. He's never shown doing anything that impacts, say, the other side of the world. He did have to actually go to Vietnam to end the war after all.
So he can probably zip around turning as many missiles into marshmallows as he can, but he wouldn't get all of them.
It also seems like it would be trivially easy for the doctor to stop 100% of the missiles fired in a hypothetical WW3. Just send everything above the pacific and atlantic ocean flying into space. Or make a 200 mile long wall of viscous jelly between the two countries. Or just make a million of yourself and individually stop each missile.
Hell, before the first shot is fired just make a million of yourself and go turn each nuke into a marshmallow.
He's not entirely omnipotent, just very, very close to it.
So, what, he can only make six copies of himself? He can turn bullets into marshmallows but not missiles? He can only create enough jelly for a 1 mile wall? Seems like his powers are "whatever's convenient for the plot."
Shhhh!
This bothers me a lot less. Even if his powers are close to infinite in theory, he may not necessarily be capable of manifesting them in practice, which is the interpretation I have - he still has to figure out how to do things, and it may strain his intellect to do so.
An analogy might be that in theory a laser anti-missile defense system could completely undermine the Russian deterrent by close to negating the travel time of an interceptor. But in practice, it hasn't been implemented yet.
And then scale for the fact that we're talking about the interests of one guy.
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"Yes, if you throw copies of Bodies That Matter and Gender Trouble at me, I will melt away. I've read lots of Middle English stuff, but I can't read that."
Another thing you have to remember about Doctor Manhattan is that he is essentially trapped by causality. He sees himself doing stuff, and then does it without protest. He feels like he can't fight fate, so if he doesn't see himself stopping a nuclear strike, he doesn't.
I am slightly sleepy from late night feminist / intern-related consciousness raising meeting type thing 85c.
is that what the kids are calling it these days?
"consciousness" "raising"
if you catch my drift
eh, gentlemen? winky dot gif, am I right?
Actually naw, I am back at my old college to wrap up my bachelor's and have just a few classes. Taking an Art History class where we're putting together a gallery show that opens in a week and a half. Some of us are the liaisons* to the artists, and the person I'm ... liaising is doing this sort of feminist-grounded group thing based around interning and gender balance in unpaid labor and such.
I've never been an intern, which I guess just proves some point about their theory re: gender and labor. My MAN'S TIME requires hourly wages!
* apparently I never knew how to spell that word until just now
I have a fever. I'm fecking freezing. I could crawl into my sleeping bag for the rest of the day, but I kind of like the chills of a fever. The way the air around you feels freezing cold is just a trick of the brain, and if you think about it, you can block it out or even consciously contrast it with the roasting heat inside your body. It's pretty neat.
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I think there's a part in the graphic novel where they talk about being unable to duplicate the circumstances that led to Dr Manhattan.
Don't say "infinite", picking a random element out of an infinite set is not well-defined. Say instead that you have equal amounts of each letter and that you put back each tile after drawing it, so that their probabilities remain the same.
He's not entirely omnipotent, just very, very close to it.
So, what, he can only make six copies of himself? He can turn bullets into marshmallows but not missiles? He can only create enough jelly for a 1 mile wall? Seems like his powers are "whatever's convenient for the plot."
Shhhh!
I believe the range of them is limited. He's never shown doing anything that impacts, say, the other side of the world. He did have to actually go to Vietnam to end the war after all.
So he can probably zip around turning as many missiles into marshmallows as he can, but he wouldn't get all of them.
This bothers me a lot less. Even if his powers are close to infinite in theory, he may not necessarily be capable of manifesting them in practice, which is the interpretation I have - he still has to figure out how to do things, and it may strain his intellect to do so.
An analogy might be that in theory a laser anti-missile defense system could completely undermine the Russian deterrent by close to negating the travel time of an interceptor. But in practice, it hasn't been implemented yet.
And then scale for the fact that we're talking about the interests of one guy.
Downloading me some dragons and their ages.
I went for something thematically appropriate.
I am slightly sleepy from late night feminist / intern-related consciousness raising meeting type thing
I am an early bird and not a night owl!
Fortunately there is iced coffee from 85c.
is that what the kids are calling it these days?
check it out minecrafters
be impressed by my grandeur
What happened to the Beast?
why
be happy instead
edit: this post directed at nexus and cass
Wheeeee!
Who are you going as? The ladyfriend and I are going as Fred and Daphne (if anyone is going to the NYC Halloween parade, look for us!)
"Yes, if you throw copies of Bodies That Matter and Gender Trouble at me, I will melt away. I've read lots of Middle English stuff, but I can't read that."
TOO INTENSSSSSE
Anyone have a suggestion for a good horror game to stream tomorrow night?
Options include the Fatal Frames, Silent Hills, Resident Evils, and/or Haunting Ground.
The Prince. And it's waiting at home. If I ruin it, I may be killed. So alternate costume for work.
Generic Scooby Doo Villian.
"consciousness" "raising"
if you catch my drift
eh, gentlemen? winky dot gif, am I right?
Actually naw, I am back at my old college to wrap up my bachelor's and have just a few classes. Taking an Art History class where we're putting together a gallery show that opens in a week and a half. Some of us are the liaisons* to the artists, and the person I'm ... liaising is doing this sort of feminist-grounded group thing based around interning and gender balance in unpaid labor and such.
I've never been an intern, which I guess just proves some point about their theory re: gender and labor. My MAN'S TIME requires hourly wages!
* apparently I never knew how to spell that word until just now
No. : (
Today is the "Halloween of the Work Week."
is that in the middle east someplace
okay