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Common Goods marketed as Luxury Goods.

SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
edited January 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Here's a bit of an abstract one for you all.

I'm trying to think of common, everyday, boring products that have been successfully re-marketed as highly desirable, luxury items.

As an (not very great) example, bottled water. We all use water everyday, often by the gallon and it is quite literally 'on tap' in most households. And yet companies have managed to sell us premium water by bottling it, often from mineral sources, at prices which would quickly drive everybody into crippling debt if they were applied to our tap water.

There are quite a few examples in food products, although very often they rely on one product using, better, fresher, healthier ingredients than another (such as Green & Blacks Organic Chocolate Spread compared to Nutella), as is I suppose the case with mineral water. What I'm really interested in are products which aren't noticeably different from their counterparts except in how they've been packaged or marketed (although less-than-perfect examples are also welcome). I guess Collectors Edition computer game re-packagings would count as an example as well, where they've increased the perceived value by adding some extra junk and putting it in a fancier box but then increased the price-tag beyond the actual worth of the additional tat.

I think that should make sense. Any suggestions are welcome, there is no right answer or one particular product I'm looking for here, just a range to research.

Oh, and examples of failures are also welcome.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Monster cables.

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  • BearcatBearcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Fiji water, to add to the OP.

    The 6 Dollar Burger from Carl's Jr, which is seems big in relation to the menu's other items.

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  • Sunday_AssassinSunday_Assassin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Any foods that have been marketed as somehow 'good for you', I suppose: weight-watchers etc.

    And vegetarian ready-meals. Where's the meat? What am I paying for here?

    Dunno. The best examples are the ones we won't even think about any more.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Dunno. The best examples are the ones we won't even think about any more.

    That's the rub, isn't it? The successful ones, I suspect, are successful specifically because no one has yet noticed they are being duped. Which is why I'm finding it so hard to come up with examples myself.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Bearcat wrote:
    Fiji water, to add to the OP.

    The 6 Dollar Burger from Carl's Jr, which is seems big in relation to the menu's other items.

    Fiji really seems to taste better though. And if its a choice between that and that shitty Dasani stuff, what would you pick?

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The only things that spring to mind are probiotics, since they're essentially just live yoghurt, and anything marketed as a "superfood." I'm emphasising the marketing, because a lot of them are fairly generic, common foods that end up in expensive glossy packaging at a huge markup.

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  • AgentflitAgentflit Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    "Pre worn-out" clothes that sell as new.

    Razors with more than two blades (some have vibrate and other crap too).

    Best Buy's "Geek Squad".

    Am I doing this right?

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Star-fuckin'-bucks.

    Athletic shoes for going to the grocery store

    Body wash w/ super-mosturizing, foaming, rainbow-spewing ribbons of delight. (what happen to a bar of soap?)

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I agree with Starbucks. Coffee, Tea, and wine in general have their Lux. appeal for a certain segment of the population.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, Starbucks is a good example actually. I recall speaking to a girl in starbucks - a barista or whatever they call them - about the fairtrade coffee and she explained that it was actually the same coffee beans that they buy from the same suppliers in wherever but they add on 10p to the cost and then pass that profit back up the chain to the grower retrospectively. So they rip-off the supplier to begin with and if you want to Starbucks to pay a 'fair price' for that coffee, you have to make a point of ordering the fairtrade option - which is really just making a 10p charity donation (of which only a fraction probably makes it back to the supplier).

    So not only do Starbucks charge a premium for the 'starbucks experience' they also sell you identical coffee as fairtrade coffee but with a slightly higher price tag which is really only buying you a conscience.


    This is all good stuff guys.

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  • BearcatBearcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    arod_77 wrote:
    Bearcat wrote:
    Fiji water, to add to the OP.

    The 6 Dollar Burger from Carl's Jr, which is seems big in relation to the menu's other items.

    Fiji really seems to taste better though. And if its a choice between that and that shitty Dasani stuff, what would you pick?

    Then its just a matter of taste, and not quality.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm gonna go ahead and say computers, I realise they aren't nearly as important as food or water, but think about it, Alienware, Falcon Northwest... All those, with Falcon Northwest they have computers that sell for around $15,000. The parts really only add up to 2 or 3 grand, so I'd say it's like the Starbucks of PCs, where they're making WAY too much profit per sale.

    Portable Radios - those $200 brand name ones (that I can't even think of now)

    Oh! And batteries... You can buy a 48 pack of no name brand AA's for something like $2 at a couple stores near me (I'm thinkin this was Giant Tiger) and yet at the checkout lines of every store they have $6 for 4AA's.

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    As an (not very great) example, bottled water. We all use water everyday, often by the gallon and it is quite literally 'on tap' in most households. And yet companies have managed to sell us premium water by bottling it, often from mineral sources, at prices which would quickly drive everybody into crippling debt if they were applied to our tap water.

    That is actually a great example, especially when alot of bottled waters are more expensive per gallon than gas. Of course, it gets even worse when you buy one at, for example, a movie theatre; $3.50 for a bottle of water is absurdity at best. And yet we buy them.

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Oxygen bars.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Oxygen bars.

    Haha. Yeah, that's one I'd thought about yesterday but forgot about. File under failures?

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  • Solidaritus:Solidaritus: __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Macs.

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Wezoin wrote:
    Oh! And batteries... You can buy a 48 pack of no name brand AA's for something like $2 at a couple stores near me (I'm thinkin this was Giant Tiger) and yet at the checkout lines of every store they have $6 for 4AA's.
    Not all batteries are created equal. It's entirely possible that the 48-pack batteries have significantly lower mAh, i.e. they'll run out a lot sooner. I'd guess that the $6 batteries are probably at a mark-up that is well beyond the value of any extra energy they contain, though.

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  • SerpentSerpent Sometimes Vancouver, BC, sometimes Brisbane, QLDRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Macs.

    Black macs cost more than white macs.

    :?

    I have a friend who bought a black mac.

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  • Atlus ParkerAtlus Parker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How about lobster?

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Wezoin wrote:
    Oh! And batteries... You can buy a 48 pack of no name brand AA's for something like $2 at a couple stores near me (I'm thinkin this was Giant Tiger) and yet at the checkout lines of every store they have $6 for 4AA's.
    Not all batteries are created equal. It's entirely possible that the 48-pack batteries have significantly lower mAh, i.e. they'll run out a lot sooner. I'd guess that the $6 batteries are probably at a mark-up that is well beyond the value of any extra energy they contain, though.

    But you can say that about all things... The bottled water for example, that contains minerals and all sorts, or is perhaps filtered, therefore, bottled water does not equal tap water, but at the same time it's not necessarilly worth the extra money.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    How about lobster?

    Hmm, interesting. My sister brought back some lobster flavoured chips from Boston and they had a little story on the back about how people used to eat lobster and then hide the remains in their back yard because eating them was a sign of being poor. Where as now they cost an arm and a leg and are virtually considered a status symbol of wealthy living.

    Similar situation with Salmon in Scotland. Used to be peasant food, now it's a luxury. Although I'm not sure if both of these are due to changes in availability or not.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Wezoin wrote:
    Wezoin wrote:
    Oh! And batteries... You can buy a 48 pack of no name brand AA's for something like $2 at a couple stores near me (I'm thinkin this was Giant Tiger) and yet at the checkout lines of every store they have $6 for 4AA's.
    Not all batteries are created equal. It's entirely possible that the 48-pack batteries have significantly lower mAh, i.e. they'll run out a lot sooner. I'd guess that the $6 batteries are probably at a mark-up that is well beyond the value of any extra energy they contain, though.

    But you can say that about all things... The bottled water for example, that contains minerals and all sorts, or is perhaps filtered, therefore, bottled water does not equal tap water, but at the same time it's not necessarilly worth the extra money.

    Yeah, like bottled water, the battery thing is an imperfect example, although it'd be interesting to see if the power advantage of branded batteries is really worth the price difference. Something which would be easier to calculate than the advantages of mineral or pure water over tap water vesus cost.

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  • PeekingDuckPeekingDuck __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    I think a lot of beers/wines have done this. Another thing I've seen done is charging import prices for domestic beers. Wha?

    Like someone already listed, the "premium" windows computer brands.

    Pretty much every Apple product available.

    Electronics cables for homes and automobiles. BMW does an impressive job of this.

    For that matter, car dealerships in general. You take it to an independent mechanic and they use a generic part vs. a name-brand part. Same function, just the badging.

    That's a good point about salmon too. Pink salmon is kind of trashy depending on where you come from.

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Similar situation with Salmon in Scotland. Used to be peasant food, now it's a luxury. Although I'm not sure if both of these are due to changes in availability or not.
    Yeah, due to the collapse of fisheries in many places, lower supply has changed the perception of those foods. For example, cod used to be utterly plentiful where I was born, Newfoundland. Then the cod stocks were overfished to the point where there are hardly any left. There is no legitimate full-scale cod fishery in Newfoundland anymore, nor is it likely to fully reopen any time in the next twenty years. As a result, cod has gone from being a cheap, everyday generic food to a relatively pricey, special occaission food in Newfoundland.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    For that matter, car dealerships in general. You take it to an independent mechanic and they use a generic part vs. a name-brand part. Same function, just the badging.

    True, I have a friend who's an independant autobody mechanic (owns his own shop), I order all my parts through him.

    The last time I took a rock through one of my turn signals, I ordered the orange plastic lense through him, less than half the cost of the Nissan part, when it came in I compared it to the original Nissan on the other side, and the mold markins were virtually identical, (except mirrored).

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Oxygen bars.

    I was at a club in Mexico. I had a nice buzz going and then I decided to try oxygen because this girl wouldn't stop talking about it. After breathing it for about 5 minutes, I was completely sober. What the hell was the point of that? :x

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  • Raziel078Raziel078 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Diamonds. Originally very hard to find and difficult to bring out there full luster. But thanks to techniques that are now very old, diamonds are easily found and easily refined. But the cartels that own the major diamond mines control the amount of diamonds available on the market every year. Think about it. How precious are diamonds really if every single crappy mall jewler from coast to all across America and Europe is filled with diamonds plus think about the huge amount of diamonds produced for industrial purposes. Also I read an article about a year ago that said there was research into a way to make synthetic diamond in larg quantities that was very close to being perfected, its supposed to revolutionize computers. So yeah, diamonds

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How about lobster?

    Hmm, interesting. My sister brought back some lobster flavoured chips from Boston and they had a little story on the back about how people used to eat lobster and then hide the remains in their back yard because eating them was a sign of being poor. Where as now they cost an arm and a leg and are virtually considered a status symbol of wealthy living.

    Similar situation with Salmon in Scotland. Used to be peasant food, now it's a luxury. Although I'm not sure if both of these are due to changes in availability or not.

    With salmon I'm sure it's at least partly due to a change in availability. Farmed salmon is quite common, but contaminated waters and over-fishing have put wild salmon into short supply.

    Diamonds is actually a good one. The market value of second-hand diamonds is scandalous, as I'm sure any rejected lover looking to sell an engagement ring could tell you. Compared to emeralds, rubies, etc., diamonds are exceptionally common.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Also, gold. That is, prior to the latter half of the 20th Century.

    Virtually all industrial applications of gold were discovered during the nineteen hundreds. It's applications are primarily for it's ductile/conductive properties in electronics, or it's reflective/anti-corrosive properties in various types of shielding on spacecraft.

    The earliest semi-non-ornimental application of gold was probably as Dental fillings, where due to it's malleability (sp?) and corrosive resistance it worked quite well protecting teeth.

    But for the thousands of years before that, it was pretty much only sought after for it's shineyness and the fact that it's malleability/melting point made it a good metal for jewellers.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Shoes/Sneakers (fashion in general). My ex bought a pair of Jimmy Chu shoes off of Ebay. She was pretty psyched that she got them for ~$300. I was (still am) flabergasted. She must own three or four pairs of that one designer and a bunch more from others. She probably bought most of them at retail price, and it makes me sick to think how much they probably go for in a store. Im by no means a totally practical man, as evidenced by my comic/video games/general tech collection, but its not like I break out my 360 once a year and then only with the right color game. Guess fashion's just beyond me.

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  • BearcatBearcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Caviar?

    EDIT:

    Vista

    HOHOHO

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  • crakecrake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I was reading an article on Platinum recently and how it went from worthless to a step above gold. (and white gold for that matter - that's regular gold watered down with nickle and resold as a premium metal)

    Also, When places like Costco came out, they started rebranding regular grocery stores as premium. While on the subject of food - lots and lots and lots of products have been rebranded at healthy by changing the packaging saying something like "no trans fats" or something to that effect. The product never had the ingredient in question, but they try to suggest to you that they've recently changed their evil ways because they love us oh so much.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Bearcat wrote:
    Caviar?

    EDIT:

    Vista

    HOHOHO

    Yes, but some people like caviar, and it's difficult to get in some places.

    As for Vista, well, the judges are still out on that, but it doesn't look like something I'll be buying for a couple years.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    toothpaste

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, Starbucks is a good example actually. I recall speaking to a girl in starbucks - a barista or whatever they call them - about the fairtrade coffee and she explained that it was actually the same coffee beans that they buy from the same suppliers in wherever but they add on 10p to the cost and then pass that profit back up the chain to the grower retrospectively. So they rip-off the supplier to begin with and if you want to Starbucks to pay a 'fair price' for that coffee, you have to make a point of ordering the fairtrade option - which is really just making a 10p charity donation (of which only a fraction probably makes it back to the supplier).

    I used to work there, and I don't have any particular love for the company, but that's crap. Or at least, it definitely wasn't the case when I worked there. The Fairtrade stuff is different coffee, packaged, handled, and brewed seperately. That's why you can't (or at least couldn't, like I say, it's been a while) get a Fairtrade version of anything made with Espresso, only Filter. Plus, the Fairtrade blend that they do, plus the Fairtrade single origins, taste distinctly different to the rest of the range.

    I'm fairly certain to do it that way would be illegal if they used the Fairtrade foundation mark.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Diamonds

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    YodaTuna wrote:
    Diamonds

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  • Anarchy Rules!Anarchy Rules! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like the way that most food companies have rebranded crisps such as pringles as luxuries foods. I.e. I know it's bad for me, but I'll treat myself. also expensive food has the imagery of being healthy

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like the way that most food companies have rebranded crisps such as pringles as luxuries foods. I.e. I know it's bad for me, but I'll treat myself. also expensive food has the imagery of being healthy

    Heard of Pringles Selects? (Junk Food Blog)

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Doc wrote:
    YodaTuna wrote:
    Diamonds

    But they're forever... and oh so sparkly. I remember I heart some girl talking about how wonderful diamonds were and then I went into asshole mode and told her about blood diamonds. Good times.





    ... I have a black MacBook.

    But it doesn't cost more because it's black. I refuse to believe this.

    According to this:

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=MacBook

    One pays more for the extra disc space. My macbook, despite being black, has only 75 GBs of space. Also, I remember my dad refusing to pay more than a certain amount, and it was definately under 1.5 grand.

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