The Legion are monsters, the NCR are dicks, House is Andrew Ryan in a can, and you are probably New Vegas' only chance for a fair leader.
That game is great, but the end choice is pretty easy.
Agreed.
Put Arcade in charge of everything.
I'm trying to roleplay, see things through my character's eyes. He doesn't trust himself with the destiny of a town, much less an entire region. Maybe things will change. If there is a way to hand off the power, say to the Followers/Arcade or something, maybe we will go that route.
I'm now one legion melee run(pretty much piling through the story asap and setting the game to very easy so I don't have to worry about any crap) and close to the end of a house explosives run away from getting a platinum trophy. Oh, and I need to heal TEN THOUSAND DAMAGE using food. The healing via stims one must've taken about twenty minutes of constant healing. How am I meant to get that much food?
if you have good strength and stamina you really don't need to put the game in to easy mode with melee weapons.
Melee is pretty damn powerful and good weapons are easy to find at the start of the game, added to that the fact that you can just sell all the ammo and weapons you find you can easily plow through most of the game.
I'm now one legion melee run(pretty much piling through the story asap and setting the game to very easy so I don't have to worry about any crap) and close to the end of a house explosives run away from getting a platinum trophy. Oh, and I need to heal TEN THOUSAND DAMAGE using food. The healing via stims one must've taken about twenty minutes of constant healing. How am I meant to get that much food?
if you have good strength and stamina you really don't need to put the game in to easy mode with melee weapons.
Melee is pretty damn powerful and good weapons are easy to find at the start of the game, added to that the fact that you can just sell all the ammo and weapons you find you can easily plow through most of the game.
I'm watching my friend play right now and I must ask: does anyone else find the gecko's in this game adorable?
Oh god, their run?
I think that's what made me decide to do a sniper run. So I could get their attention from across the map, and just watch them run to me. Watch them run forever.
I'm now one legion melee run(pretty much piling through the story asap and setting the game to very easy so I don't have to worry about any crap) and close to the end of a house explosives run away from getting a platinum trophy. Oh, and I need to heal TEN THOUSAND DAMAGE using food. The healing via stims one must've taken about twenty minutes of constant healing. How am I meant to get that much food?
if you have good strength and stamina you really don't need to put the game in to easy mode with melee weapons.
Melee is pretty damn powerful and good weapons are easy to find at the start of the game, added to that the fact that you can just sell all the ammo and weapons you find you can easily plow through most of the game.
Except for those mutant flies.
Those are what the missile launcher is for.
Cazadors?
To hell with missile launchers, those bastards deserve a full on nuclear approach.
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
edited December 2010
yeah, how comes a bunch of mutated moths have the same threat level as fucking deathclaws.
The Legion, through their marauding tactics, have stopped raiders nearly entirely in their territory. The traders report it is safe in their area.
The NCR has the makings of a legitimate government, and vast amounts of resources to handle crap and rebuild
Mr House is the smartest person the worlds ever known, who single handedly created a paradise in the wastes
But no, you can do this. A courier who got jumped and shot by a casino owner and 3 street gangs, who ran the errands of some portion of the 3 previous mentioned factions like a little servant boy. You can totally run the pinnacle of hope of a normal society in this post apocalyptic world.
I'm watching my friend play right now and I must ask: does anyone else find the gecko's in this game adorable?
Oh god, their run?
I think that's what made me decide to do a sniper run. So I could get their attention from across the map, and just watch them run to me. Watch them run forever.
They look so happy when they run towards you. Like they just want a big hug.
The fact that the courier would have to be completely insane to join the legion aside, they just never felt all that fleshed out, either.
Read the last page.
I saw said post.
It read like the defense mechanism of a man unwilling to admit he failed.
?
How?
Yes, clearly. Thats why he gives hindsight for his design choices regarding the legion and takes the time to explain it this throughly giving accurate hystorical examples on why he designed certain parts of the legion. Of course that equates to "Wähh, I don't suck."
The legion were not compelling as a potential ally, whatsoever.
Perhaps you'll disagree and that's fine, but in practice they struck me as generic moustache twirling psychopaths.
I'd appreciate some elaboration on "positive backlash", on account of this thread contains plenty of people agreeing that the Legion was unlikable and poorly fleshed out.
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Jeeze. What do people have against crucifixions anyway? You're pissing on your ancestor's graves, here. In your great grand pa's day they used to do that shit all the time.
The legion were not compelling as a potential ally, whatsoever.
Perhaps you'll disagree and that's fine, but in practice they struck me as generic moustache twirling psychopaths.
I'd appreciate some elaboration on "positive backlash", on account of this thread contains plenty of people agreeing that the Legion was unlikable and poorly fleshed out.
Fleshed out it is. Seriously there has went so much thought into the legion, cesars motives and ideals that I'm astounded as why people still say that. The presentation in the game may not be the best but that is only one part. Furthermore I said it a hundred times I say it again they are the invading faction. Ask the Arfghani and irani what they think/thought about the USA. Cesars Legion is a faction where you have to think about long term effects rather than short term.
Also its mostly forum posts VD's New Vegas review and foreign reviews. French media seemed to have them taken in very well though I've read only around 4 reviews there so that may just be my impression.
First impressions on the legion are more negative but thats to be excpected.
On my own I saw Nipton, that from a certain viewpoint deserved it and the rest that was mostly more brutal war tactics, but war tactics. I excpected Slavery and the whole women thing (as backwards as it is It's not really THAT long since that was basically the standard in the world.) and the cross thing. Whats bad about the legion (but not in writing) is that most of their military personal is consisting of former savage tribals and it gets really obvious with guys when you interact with them apart from cesar. Another charachter would have certainly helped.
So, yeah. I saw them as pretty fleshed out and compelling. Short term they ARE certainly the worst faction. Long term too if their military would plan a coup. So its just as unstable as the NCR too (Which has the potential to either be overolled from another unknown faction which are closer to the fiends or just get corrupt as shit). Decisions, Decisions.
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
edited December 2010
I had someone describe me the Legion as post-apocalyptic Nazis the other day, but I'd say they are closer to post-apocalyptic Hordes of Chaos ala Warhammer (add Ancient Roman cult and remove demons), although not as cool as that'd be. But their presentation in-game is seriously lacking imo.
Fleshed out it is. Seriously there has went so much thought into the legion, cesars motives and ideals that I'm astounded as why people still say that. The presentation in the game may not be the best but that is only one part.
I'm sorry, I laughed. This is the source of the confusion.
Executing your ideas in such a way that it resonates with the audience is kind of the whole point of this medium.
So I guess we'll disagree and leave it at that.
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I liked Caesars legion, well, didn't LIKE them, but liked the fact that a follower of the apocalypse(with an obvious 8-10 INT), who sounds like he's from the bronx, got captured by a bunch of tribals, taught them to decimate their enemies, and went scourging across the country in a tornado of pre-war knowledge and post-war tribal savagery.
Stuff like this is what post apocalyptic fiction is all about. Mad max? Rampaging dudes in V8s wearing buttchaps and hockey masks. The postman? Both the David Bryn novel and the Movie feature an opposing faction very similar to Caesar's legion, though the book and movie differ greatly.
I was actually going to side with the Legion this time. But apparently getting attacked by them and having to kill the attackers as part of a mission was enough to get me to hated and attacked on sight at cottonwood cove.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds.2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
edited December 2010
I haven't actually encountered the Legion much yet. I quite like Caeser, as a character, he's got a cool story and was fun to talk to. But I will agree the rest of them seem pretty generic. But like I said I haven't seen much of them yet, I'm sure they will get more involved as I go through the game.
I was actually going to side with the Legion this time. But apparently getting attacked by them and having to kill the attackers as part of a mission was enough to get me to hated and attacked on sight at cottonwood cove.
You should still be able to side with them when you reach the strip.
Assuming the messenger has not already told you "We'll ignore all your past crimes if you join the Legion now."
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I haven't actually encountered the Legion much yet. I quite like Caeser, as a character, he's got a cool story and was fun to talk to. But I will agree the rest of them seem pretty generic. But like I said I haven't seen much of them yet, I'm sure they will get more involved as I go through the game.
It doesn't get that much better if you are looking for Charachter Interaction. While I fully support the Legion as a faction (In fact it is my favourite one) its members apart from the Legate and Cesar (which are awesome. Though the legate represents all the bad things about the legion) and somewhat Aurelius belong to the games most bland written ones. Which doesn't mean they are badly written IMO.
Info to the DLC from a Focus Tester. A little spoilery.
Syrant posted:
Can you say what those ghost things are and why they're hostile how they are made?
The ghost people are hostile for the same reason everything else in the Mojave is hostile- because gently caress you, I want your stuff. vv
As for how they're made, let's say the haze in the sky isn't dust and leave it at that.
El Negocio posted:
Please tell me that ghoul wearing the tux and authority shades is one of the people you're forced to work with, and that he acts as awesome as he looks.
He is, he does, and the best part is that almost all of you have already seen him playing through new vegas, though perhaps in a decidedly more aesthetic version.
Dr. Discomfort posted:
So is the nightkin's name Dog?
You mean the one with "Dog" carved into its chest? Well... sort of.
I'm watching my friend play right now and I must ask: does anyone else find the gecko's in this game adorable?
Oh god, their run?
I think that's what made me decide to do a sniper run. So I could get their attention from across the map, and just watch them run to me. Watch them run forever.
They look so happy when they run towards you. Like they just want a big hug.
But they don't
Later on in the game I can just stand there and watch them. I wonder if anyone has tamed them in the game?
I'm watching my friend play right now and I must ask: does anyone else find the gecko's in this game adorable?
Oh god, their run?
I think that's what made me decide to do a sniper run. So I could get their attention from across the map, and just watch them run to me. Watch them run forever.
They look so happy when they run towards you. Like they just want a big hug.
But they don't
Later on in the game I can just stand there and watch them. I wonder if anyone has tamed them in the game?
Tamed? No idea. But there is probably a mod letting you fuck them.
I'm watching my friend play right now and I must ask: does anyone else find the gecko's in this game adorable?
Oh god, their run?
I think that's what made me decide to do a sniper run. So I could get their attention from across the map, and just watch them run to me. Watch them run forever.
They look so happy when they run towards you. Like they just want a big hug.
But they don't
Later on in the game I can just stand there and watch them. I wonder if anyone has tamed them in the game?
There's a perk in the game that lets you do exactly this.
Oh my fucking god I get too excited for this DLC. Avellone seems to go out with all forces
Schlegel Mach posted:
So, is the bald girl as much of a stereotype as I think she is?
Hahaahaha.
A stereotype? A stereotype.
You have no loving idea. I'm not even going to go into it, because she's one of the best-written characters I've seen in forever. Her dialogues are sublime, I'm talking Planescape-level awesome, and you guys should all experience her for yourself.
I don't have any patches so I still have issues with "cowboy guns" since you can't shoot,aim, or access your pipboy for 5seconds after you reload the weapon.
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I'm trying to roleplay, see things through my character's eyes. He doesn't trust himself with the destiny of a town, much less an entire region. Maybe things will change. If there is a way to hand off the power, say to the Followers/Arcade or something, maybe we will go that route.
if you have good strength and stamina you really don't need to put the game in to easy mode with melee weapons.
Melee is pretty damn powerful and good weapons are easy to find at the start of the game, added to that the fact that you can just sell all the ammo and weapons you find you can easily plow through most of the game.
Except for those mutant flies.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I think that's what made me decide to do a sniper run. So I could get their attention from across the map, and just watch them run to me. Watch them run forever.
Cazadors?
To hell with missile launchers, those bastards deserve a full on nuclear approach.
oh my gooooood.
Have you ever had your flesh liquefied and sucked up by a giant mutated moth?
Thought not.
It's pretty bad.
Thats actually also fairly dickish. If not for New Vegas but it can lead easy to pretty much bigger conflicts in the long run.
I would be very surprised if that actually worked.
Also, it comes down to what you believe in which way works best. And this isn't an easy choice at all.
The NCR has the makings of a legitimate government, and vast amounts of resources to handle crap and rebuild
Mr House is the smartest person the worlds ever known, who single handedly created a paradise in the wastes
But no, you can do this. A courier who got jumped and shot by a casino owner and 3 street gangs, who ran the errands of some portion of the 3 previous mentioned factions like a little servant boy. You can totally run the pinnacle of hope of a normal society in this post apocalyptic world.
Ending choice isnt that cut and dry.
What could go wrong.
They look so happy when they run towards you. Like they just want a big hug.
But they don't
I saw said post.
It read like the defense mechanism of a man unwilling to admit he failed.
?
How?
Yes, clearly. Thats why he gives hindsight for his design choices regarding the legion and takes the time to explain it this throughly giving accurate hystorical examples on why he designed certain parts of the legion. Of course that equates to "Wähh, I don't suck."
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His gross mis-reading of history aside, a veritable essay defending your failed design choices smacks of defensiveness.
How did he fail?
He didn't in my eyes and others. There has been a lot of positive backslash towards the legion too and its perfectly well written.
Perhaps you'll disagree and that's fine, but in practice they struck me as generic moustache twirling psychopaths.
I'd appreciate some elaboration on "positive backlash", on account of this thread contains plenty of people agreeing that the Legion was unlikable and poorly fleshed out.
So there.
Jeeze. What do people have against crucifixions anyway? You're pissing on your ancestor's graves, here. In your great grand pa's day they used to do that shit all the time.
And they have cool armor made of hubcaps.
That's gotta count for something.
Fleshed out it is. Seriously there has went so much thought into the legion, cesars motives and ideals that I'm astounded as why people still say that. The presentation in the game may not be the best but that is only one part. Furthermore I said it a hundred times I say it again they are the invading faction. Ask the Arfghani and irani what they think/thought about the USA. Cesars Legion is a faction where you have to think about long term effects rather than short term.
Also its mostly forum posts VD's New Vegas review and foreign reviews. French media seemed to have them taken in very well though I've read only around 4 reviews there so that may just be my impression.
First impressions on the legion are more negative but thats to be excpected.
On my own I saw Nipton, that from a certain viewpoint deserved it and the rest that was mostly more brutal war tactics, but war tactics. I excpected Slavery and the whole women thing (as backwards as it is It's not really THAT long since that was basically the standard in the world.) and the cross thing. Whats bad about the legion (but not in writing) is that most of their military personal is consisting of former savage tribals and it gets really obvious with guys when you interact with them apart from cesar. Another charachter would have certainly helped.
So, yeah. I saw them as pretty fleshed out and compelling. Short term they ARE certainly the worst faction. Long term too if their military would plan a coup. So its just as unstable as the NCR too (Which has the potential to either be overolled from another unknown faction which are closer to the fiends or just get corrupt as shit). Decisions, Decisions.
I'm sorry, I laughed. This is the source of the confusion.
Executing your ideas in such a way that it resonates with the audience is kind of the whole point of this medium.
So I guess we'll disagree and leave it at that.
Stuff like this is what post apocalyptic fiction is all about. Mad max? Rampaging dudes in V8s wearing buttchaps and hockey masks. The postman? Both the David Bryn novel and the Movie feature an opposing faction very similar to Caesar's legion, though the book and movie differ greatly.
I was actually going to side with the Legion this time. But apparently getting attacked by them and having to kill the attackers as part of a mission was enough to get me to hated and attacked on sight at cottonwood cove.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Assuming the messenger has not already told you "We'll ignore all your past crimes if you join the Legion now."
It doesn't get that much better if you are looking for Charachter Interaction. While I fully support the Legion as a faction (In fact it is my favourite one) its members apart from the Legate and Cesar (which are awesome. Though the legate represents all the bad things about the legion) and somewhat Aurelius belong to the games most bland written ones. Which doesn't mean they are badly written IMO.
http://www.get-well-gamers.org/
And already tested on NWN2.
Later on in the game I can just stand there and watch them. I wonder if anyone has tamed them in the game?
Tamed? No idea. But there is probably a mod letting you fuck them.
There's a perk in the game that lets you do exactly this.
they don't feel as quite as overpowered as the rifles did, but don't feel underpowered, either
they probably should have nerfed the brush gun while they were at it; only the lack of ammo was really the only thing holding it back
My first character was a gunslinger. Got everything that makes you more like a revolver-toting cowboy. Indeed, even the cowboy perk!
They're kind of weak guns in general by the end, but you can kite almost anyone fairly well.
I also liked grabbing every crit perk and using the 6-shooter that crits, like, 1/3rd of the time to begin with.
*zero damage zero damage 40 42 40 zero damage*
Short question. I vaguely remember there beeing a bug with the perk (got fixed)
Did you happen to run across it/ can you tell me what it was? I want to look something up.
And yeah, That Gun sucks.