Sengoku Basara is 16 dollars I think on Amazon right now. Worth it?
Jesus fuck, yes. It's the best Dynasty Warriors game out there.
Argableeishashrha. What? No. This is like saying Sonic the Hedgehog is the best Super Mario brothers game out there.
Two different franchises. Two different groups. And just like Sonic and Mario... while one arguably improved (bigger/faster/stylish) on the genre the other pretty much defined it. But they are still two different beasts. /nerdrage
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Sengoku Basara is 16 dollars I think on Amazon right now. Worth it?
Jesus fuck, yes. It's the best Dynasty Warriors game out there.
Argableeishashrha. What? No. This is like saying Sonic the Hedgehog is the best Super Mario brothers game out there.
Two different franchises. Two different groups. And just like Sonic and Mario... while one arguably improved (bigger/faster/stylish) on the genre the other pretty much defined it. But they are still two different beasts. /nerdrage
That's the point of the phrase. Capcom made a better Dynasty Warriors game then Koei did. So chill.
Sengoku Basara is 16 dollars I think on Amazon right now. Worth it?
Jesus fuck, yes. It's the best Dynasty Warriors game out there.
Argableeishashrha. What? No. This is like saying Sonic the Hedgehog is the best Super Mario brothers game out there.
Two different franchises. Two different groups. And just like Sonic and Mario... while one arguably improved (bigger/faster/stylish) on the genre the other pretty much defined it. But they are still two different beasts. /nerdrage
That's the point of the phrase. Capcom made a better Dynasty Warriors game then Koei did. So chill.
Yea, and the point of my post was to say that they did not... Sengoku arguably improved on the genre that Warriors essentially defined. But again, they're two different beasts.
I don't agree with your phrase. You chill.
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Sengoku Basara is 16 dollars I think on Amazon right now. Worth it?
Jesus fuck, yes. It's the best Dynasty Warriors game out there.
Argableeishashrha. What? No. This is like saying Sonic the Hedgehog is the best Super Mario brothers game out there.
Two different franchises. Two different groups. And just like Sonic and Mario... while one arguably improved (bigger/faster/stylish) on the genre the other pretty much defined it. But they are still two different beasts. /nerdrage
That's the point of the phrase. Capcom made a better Dynasty Warriors game then Koei did. So chill.
Yea, and the point of my post was to say that they did not... Sengoku arguably improved on the genre that Warriors essentially defined. But again, they're two different beasts.
I don't agree with your phrase. You chill.
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Edit: What is the "best" Dynasty Warriors/DW-like available on the 360? I'm thinking there's significantly less variety.
Sengoku Basara is 16 dollars I think on Amazon right now. Worth it?
Jesus fuck, yes. It's the best Dynasty Warriors game out there.
Argableeishashrha. What? No. This is like saying Sonic the Hedgehog is the best Super Mario brothers game out there.
Two different franchises. Two different groups. And just like Sonic and Mario... while one arguably improved (bigger/faster/stylish) on the genre the other pretty much defined it. But they are still two different beasts. /nerdrage
That's the point of the phrase. Capcom made a better Dynasty Warriors game then Koei did. So chill.
Yea, and the point of my post was to say that they did not... Sengoku arguably improved on the genre that Warriors essentially defined. But again, they're two different beasts.
I don't agree with your phrase. You chill.
Great, so don't. Lol opinions etc. You were the one that put nerdrage in the post and you were the one that said it was bigger, faster, stylish which pretty much sounds like you agree with me.
no, I disagree. They're the same game. Setting wise one plays lip service to reality and one goes a little nuts. Other then that, Sengoku Basara 3 is no different than any other of Koei's multiple re-toolings of their system.
Regarding unlocking characters, should I just focus on playing through everyone's story at least once? I know that Nobunaga fellow's requirements are a bit stricter but everyone else just pops up right?
Currently playing through Ieyasu to unlock Tsuruhime. How do you unlock Oichi?
Oichi became one of my favorite characters, primarily for her ability to do things while other attacks are going off and for the fact that the life-drain grab attack gets you out of numerous sticky situations. While I greatly enjoy the DW series and found DW7 fantastic, SB:SH definitely felt like a bit of an evolution in gameplay, even if the missions have 'Empires' syndrome where ultimately a lot of it comes down to just hitting all the capture points.
I just picked up Bleach: Soul Resurreccion (the name of which amuses me because even the english 'announcer' at the title screen doesn't bother to pronounce it differently), so far it seems pretty neat! I haven't put enough time into it to give any deep insight, but based on first impressions I can see myself putting a fair amount of time into it. It's also fairly pretty to look at if you dig anime.
Yeah, Oichi is really fun if you figure out how to buffer her attacks into each other and just have HAPPY ARMS everywhere. Or using her knockback into her grab and squeeze.
I wish her super art that created death claw/beam portals didn't take so long to start up, it'd really improve her as a character. Though, with an elemental weapon, her grab crowd and squeeze move is amazing for health regen, so it's not like she's not usable.
Just finished Kanbe's story on hard. I had some trouble trying to figure out how to fight two bosses at once with him, especially Yoshitsugu and Hondum. It didn't help that it's been a while since I last played as him. If not for Matsu I would have been in quite a pickle.
I did learn something new about Kanbe; he can attack immediately out of a roll with almost no windup. Now I finally know a method to do a long combo with Kanbe: spin until dizzy, roll, spin again.
I'll ask again, why the goose can't Kanbe suplex Hondum? Has no one at Capcom seen that FF6 video? It would be awesome!
Here's a couple of guys playing Bleach: Soul Resurrección/Ignition. Looks like a fun way to enjoy the stuff I like about the series (the character designs, the fight scenes, the cool superpowers) without all the stuff I don't like (the dicking around, the plot points unveiled with all the grace and finesse of a hydrogen bomb, the gasping in utter amazement at everything even vaguely interesting, the gods damned dicking around).
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I haven't watched the English dub lately, but I don't think they pronounce any of the Spanish words properly. Then again, it's not like they're pronouncing them right in the Japanese version, either. There is one character I know of with an amazing(ly bad) Spanish accent, though.
My copy should be in the mail today or tomorrow. I played that Wii game with a friend and got a good amount of enjoyment out of it, so this should be pretty fun as well.
That Bleach vid- they sure did a great job on the menus. Is there a list of playable characters out already?
EDIT: Some technical questions on SB3 if you don't mind.
Mitsunari's special arts mention a move called Flash. What is it, and how is it performed? (When the instructions say to hold the SA button, I'm assuming that's triangle- is that right?)
Also, we've noticed some of his moves generate these purple orbs that he then absorbs. We don't know what they do, if anything. (I've also watched a gameplay vid of Oichi and it seems that she too generates these orbs.) What are they for?
I assume the flash they are referring to is his sword sheathing. If you watch close, Mitsunari will sheath his sword when he attacks. That's part of his special ability. He can basically cancel into any special attack at that point. Even after any of his special attacks, if you time it right, you can instantly go into his other attacks. The best being his R1 ability.
The elements all have a special effect in addition to doing damage.
Lightning arcs to nearby enemies
Fire burns over time
Wind spins the enemy in little whirlwinds
Ice freezes, breaks on hit
Light breaks guard and stuns (I think)
Dark drains health with those little orbs
I assume the flash they are referring to is his sword sheathing. If you watch close, Mitsunari will sheath his sword when he attacks. That's part of his special ability. He can basically cancel into any special attack at that point. Even after any of his special attacks, if you time it right, you can instantly go into his other attacks. The best being his R1 ability.
I never noticed that about Mitsunari's sword sheathing. Flash is not that, it's when he teleports. If you hold the appropriate button while performing his block+special or R/R1 special he will teleport to the nearest enemy on camera. This will eliminate the wind up on any special or super except the one used to flash. You can also perform a flash with Exterminate (1st super), although it places him in the air, similar to his regular special. His direction+special is basically a flash without the homing as it can be canceled into any attack besides itself and eliminates wind up. Evading will also eliminate wind up.
You can easily chain block+special and R/R1, but you will shortly run out of enemies in range or in view. A chain of [evade back, block+special, flash, R/R1] can be repeated until everyone in the area is dead for a decent size combo. Note that if you are holding block when you press R/R1 you will do the character's super instead; it's a holdover from the Wiimote control scheme. Flashing into Decapitate can be handy against troublesome bosses.
And then there are other character's moves that incorporate a flash (Masamune's one-hit-KO super, one of Motochika's supers, Tsuruhime's specials), but in those cases it refers to a flash of light. It tripped me up a bit while trying to figure out Tsuruhime after Mitsunari.
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The Bleach game isn't very Warriors-ish after all. It's way more like DBZ, sadly. You dash and fly around continuously, and everyone has a beam attack you need to spam to have any hope of survival. I guess it's more like Strikeforce, then. Which I didn't like from the demo I played.
As a Bleach fan, it's got a lot of failings too. You don't get to play as non-powered up versions of most characters. But, every character has a power up mode. So the ones that are already powered up just...glow. That's incredibly stupid. One of the main things you see in Bleach is everyone having multiple forms and stages of power ups, and they somehow managed to fuck that up even though they made a point of putting in a power up gauge, button and extra super move just for that form. Ugh.
Having both Japanese and English voices is cool. It's pointless if you're not going to translate anything they say in Japanese, though.
Yeah, I noticed that (about the health/defense). Though, I had more trouble keeping Kotaru's health up during his story. I think it's because with Kotaru (and almost everyone else), you have to put yourself out there to attack, while Oichi's shadow hands are more external to her and so she can keep quite a distance from enemies.
I've never played any of the Basara games. Is there any reason not to skip straight to 3? I usually like to play through series from the beginning, but if it's like Dynasty Warriors there's not much point.
The only other game from that series that made it here was turned into Devil Kings. I thought it was fun, but it's really hard. Very frustrating. The localization is also pretty wacky/bad, which was a selling point for me, but makes it less appealing to most people. I'd recommend just buying the newest one unless you like bad dubs and localizations that completely massacre the original settings. I still wouldn't suggest you play any longer than it takes to unlock everyone on Easy, just to experience some of the wacky story modes.
Ahhh. Well, then I think there'd be little point in getting the first game. I believe the second has extra characters that are not playable in 3, and different versions of a few characters as well. So, that one would probably still be fun. I think it is also set during the earlier half of that time period, so the events and main characters are different. I know that some of the people in 3 should actually be dead by then...
If you're going to get 2, get the 2/Heroes double pack. Heroes adds in more characters but it doesn't have full story mode. I believe the double pack also uses interchangable save data. At least the Wii one did.
Honestly, though, you aren't missing too terrible much. The story does actually change from game to game (well, it changes what stage the Sengoku is in) and it's pretty easy to figure out if you have any knowledge of it at all.
Story goes like this, anyways - first game, Nobunaga takes over. second game, Hideyoshi takes over. third game, Ieyasu fights Mitsunari.
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Argableeishashrha. What? No. This is like saying Sonic the Hedgehog is the best Super Mario brothers game out there.
Two different franchises. Two different groups. And just like Sonic and Mario... while one arguably improved (bigger/faster/stylish) on the genre the other pretty much defined it. But they are still two different beasts. /nerdrage
That's the point of the phrase. Capcom made a better Dynasty Warriors game then Koei did. So chill.
Yea, and the point of my post was to say that they did not... Sengoku arguably improved on the genre that Warriors essentially defined. But again, they're two different beasts.
I don't agree with your phrase. You chill.
No U
Edit: What is the "best" Dynasty Warriors/DW-like available on the 360? I'm thinking there's significantly less variety.
Great, so don't. Lol opinions etc. You were the one that put nerdrage in the post and you were the one that said it was bigger, faster, stylish which pretty much sounds like you agree with me.
Oichi has a stained glass/butterfly dress and gets carried along on demonic hands. That one samurai is a robot. Motorcycle horse.
I think I'm done here.
See what you described? NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE!
lol, anyway yea. my point is that you can't really compare the two. they're alike in overall genre only. :P
edit: removed engrish
Regarding unlocking characters, should I just focus on playing through everyone's story at least once? I know that Nobunaga fellow's requirements are a bit stricter but everyone else just pops up right?
Currently playing through Ieyasu to unlock Tsuruhime. How do you unlock Oichi?
yea, we could argue that one until the cows come home.
Sengoku feels more like a Ninety Nine Nights than a Musou game to me. ;p
I just picked up Bleach: Soul Resurreccion (the name of which amuses me because even the english 'announcer' at the title screen doesn't bother to pronounce it differently), so far it seems pretty neat! I haven't put enough time into it to give any deep insight, but based on first impressions I can see myself putting a fair amount of time into it. It's also fairly pretty to look at if you dig anime.
I would like to get it but I get these types of games so that my nieces or nephew can join the fun.
I wish her super art that created death claw/beam portals didn't take so long to start up, it'd really improve her as a character. Though, with an elemental weapon, her grab crowd and squeeze move is amazing for health regen, so it's not like she's not usable.
Something to look forward to, then.
I did learn something new about Kanbe; he can attack immediately out of a roll with almost no windup. Now I finally know a method to do a long combo with Kanbe: spin until dizzy, roll, spin again.
I'll ask again, why the goose can't Kanbe suplex Hondum? Has no one at Capcom seen that FF6 video? It would be awesome!
Here's a couple of guys playing Bleach: Soul Resurrección/Ignition. Looks like a fun way to enjoy the stuff I like about the series (the character designs, the fight scenes, the cool superpowers) without all the stuff I don't like (the dicking around, the plot points unveiled with all the grace and finesse of a hydrogen bomb, the gasping in utter amazement at everything even vaguely interesting, the gods damned dicking around).
My record for suplexes is now at like 18-20. It starts going really fast near the end.
My copy should be in the mail today or tomorrow. I played that Wii game with a friend and got a good amount of enjoyment out of it, so this should be pretty fun as well.
EDIT: Some technical questions on SB3 if you don't mind.
Mitsunari's special arts mention a move called Flash. What is it, and how is it performed? (When the instructions say to hold the SA button, I'm assuming that's triangle- is that right?)
Also, we've noticed some of his moves generate these purple orbs that he then absorbs. We don't know what they do, if anything. (I've also watched a gameplay vid of Oichi and it seems that she too generates these orbs.) What are they for?
Lightning arcs to nearby enemies
Fire burns over time
Wind spins the enemy in little whirlwinds
Ice freezes, breaks on hit
Light breaks guard and stuns (I think)
Dark drains health with those little orbs
I never noticed that about Mitsunari's sword sheathing. Flash is not that, it's when he teleports. If you hold the appropriate button while performing his block+special or R/R1 special he will teleport to the nearest enemy on camera. This will eliminate the wind up on any special or super except the one used to flash. You can also perform a flash with Exterminate (1st super), although it places him in the air, similar to his regular special. His direction+special is basically a flash without the homing as it can be canceled into any attack besides itself and eliminates wind up. Evading will also eliminate wind up.
You can easily chain block+special and R/R1, but you will shortly run out of enemies in range or in view. A chain of [evade back, block+special, flash, R/R1] can be repeated until everyone in the area is dead for a decent size combo. Note that if you are holding block when you press R/R1 you will do the character's super instead; it's a holdover from the Wiimote control scheme. Flashing into Decapitate can be handy against troublesome bosses.
And then there are other character's moves that incorporate a flash (Masamune's one-hit-KO super, one of Motochika's supers, Tsuruhime's specials), but in those cases it refers to a flash of light. It tripped me up a bit while trying to figure out Tsuruhime after Mitsunari.
I usually just canceled his normal string into his R1... or anything into his R1. Basically makes it so you can combo forever.
As a Bleach fan, it's got a lot of failings too. You don't get to play as non-powered up versions of most characters. But, every character has a power up mode. So the ones that are already powered up just...glow. That's incredibly stupid. One of the main things you see in Bleach is everyone having multiple forms and stages of power ups, and they somehow managed to fuck that up even though they made a point of putting in a power up gauge, button and extra super move just for that form. Ugh.
Having both Japanese and English voices is cool. It's pointless if you're not going to translate anything they say in Japanese, though.
She is... definitely different.
Her defense is possibly the worst in the game though. Her health is low too; the darkness element lets you regain health, though, so it's not all bad.
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Honestly, though, you aren't missing too terrible much. The story does actually change from game to game (well, it changes what stage the Sengoku is in) and it's pretty easy to figure out if you have any knowledge of it at all.
Story goes like this, anyways - first game, Nobunaga takes over. second game, Hideyoshi takes over. third game, Ieyasu fights Mitsunari.