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Video Game Industry Thread: November edition done, go to the new one

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    plufim wrote: »
    inherent lag in Kinect.

    I'm pretty sure this was put to rest when we determined that the latency is based on each individual title and the diligence of the developers to have it or not.

    Essentially, from prior knowledge and what's been said above, there is inherent lag in Kinect if you are using all of its functions to their fullest potential. Lag can be reduced by using less functions, such as losing the skeletal tracking. This is how Dance Central manages to be pretty much lag free (and why it doesn't let you see your avatar live like other games which do use the skeleton).

    So you're correct that developers have some control, obviously the better programmers will be able to maintain less lag, but lag is unavoidable if you intend to do the really neat stuff with Kinect.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Dance Central is a rythmn game too, so lag can pretty easily be overcome.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    plufim wrote: »
    Dance Central is a rythmn game too, so lag can pretty easily be overcome.

    It depends on what you mean by that, but yeah.

    As a rhythm game for Kinect, it requires as much ability to sense limbs as any other game, but it should be easier because they're just telling you to match a pose. It's not reactionary, sensing that the player wants to jump or anything, it just has to compare an ideal pose to the real one.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Speaking of, from Twitter:
    Achievement Unlocked: Made my niece cry by destroying her in a Dance Central battle. #shegotserved

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  • DritzDritz CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    The perfect lightsaber game has already been created it's called No More Heroes (2). Motion control to select high/low attacks, buttons for hitting, and satisfying motions for killin. Can't beat that.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Yeah but no character in the Star Wars universe, not even a theoretical one like a hybrid of Jar Jar, Anakin and an Ewok, could ever be a bigger unlikable cunt than the protagonist in NMH

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    The Star Wars Kinect game isn't being made by Lucasarts. Lucasarts barely has any internal developers at this point.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Reality#Games_developed
    Their shit looks fairly mixed.

    But Lucasarts made it a point just a few months ago that they were going to stop outsourcing and make most of their games internally.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    The Star Wars Kinect game isn't being made by Lucasarts. Lucasarts barely has any internal developers at this point.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Reality#Games_developed
    Their shit looks fairly mixed.

    But Lucasarts made it a point just a few months ago that they were going to stop outsourcing and make most of their games internally.

    Yes. Which means longer-stints between Star Wars games OR shoddy-quality Star Wars games.

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  • finnithfinnith ... TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The Star Wars Kinect game isn't being made by Lucasarts. Lucasarts barely has any internal developers at this point.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Reality#Games_developed
    Their shit looks fairly mixed.

    But Lucasarts made it a point just a few months ago that they were going to stop outsourcing and make most of their games internally.

    Yes. Which means longer-stints between Star Wars games OR shoddy-quality Star Wars games.

    I really don't understand their strategy. Consistently laying off employees doesn't really create the best culture in an organization.

    I mean, I would be pretty paranoid right now if I were a LucasArts dev.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Since we're on a Star Wars kick did Force Unleashed 2 kind of under perform?

    It would help renew my faith in people.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Force Unleashed was bad so it warranted 2 deserving to do poorly?

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Yeah but no character in the Star Wars universe, not even a theoretical one like a hybrid of Jar Jar, Anakin and an Ewok, could ever be a bigger unlikable cunt than the protagonist in NMH

    That is a good point...

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    Force Unleashed was bad so it warranted 2 deserving to do poorly?

    I actually liked 1. 2 is pretty horrible. Not only is the gameplay worse, especially the level design, but the story is somehow even more nonsensical

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I haven't played either game yet. I'm just kinda trying to follow the logic presented.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    1 is...pretty bad too. Though bad in different ways, one could certainly argue. Though being Darth Vader for one level was a fun romp. Bastard literally strolls everywhere.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Yeah but no character in the Star Wars universe, not even a theoretical one like a hybrid of Jar Jar, Anakin and an Ewok, could ever be a bigger unlikable cunt than the protagonist in NMH

    Travis Touchdown is hugely entertaining, unlike Mister Genericly Soul-Scarred Codename Starkiller

    DOWNWARD ****IN' DOG!

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Crytek is getting in on the free-to-play model with an online shooter called Warface. It is being done by their Koren studio for Korean audiences. They have also announced that they are incapable of creating a decent name for a game.

    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/41977/Crytek-announces-Warface

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Oh christ. Every preview from here on out will have a headline "Crytek shows us their Warface" EVERY SINGLE ONE. You just wait.

    Ungggg. Games journalism.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Come on Spi, tells us your hilarious pun Warface headline

    YEAH THAT'S RIGHT

    i thought so

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Since this is an online thing, won't they fall foul of Facebook trademarking "Face"?

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Oh christ. Every preview from here on out will have a headline "Crytek shows us their Warface" EVERY SINGLE ONE. You just wait.

    Ungggg. Games journalism.
    Saw this when I browsed the Escapist no more than a few minutes after reading your post. It's already begun.
    warfacef.jpg

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Stupid puns are something that all journalists seem unable to resist.
    http://members.fortunecity.com/mtracey/christy.htm

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Stupid puns are something all sub-editors want, in my experience.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    Stupid puns are something that all journalists seem unable to resist.
    http://members.fortunecity.com/mtracey/christy.htm

    I swear that's an Onion article.

    I remember it from that Penny-Arcade podcast

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Jintor wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Stupid puns are something that all journalists seem unable to resist.
    http://members.fortunecity.com/mtracey/christy.htm

    I swear that's an Onion article.

    I remember it from that Penny-Arcade podcast

    It is an Onion article. They removed it.

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  • Jimmy MarkuJimmy Marku LondonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    Stupid puns are something that all journalists seem unable to resist.
    http://members.fortunecity.com/mtracey/christy.htm

    That 'article' is utterly repugnant. I feel bad for contributing to their hits.

    edit: Onion?

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  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    The Onion is a parody news site.

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  • Jimmy MarkuJimmy Marku LondonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    So I take it that it's not real? Good-O.

    I figured it was a little implausible but at a glance it seemed possible that it was true.

    I just looked at that shitty site. Sod all genuine wit, lots of shock factor.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I've been away for a while, and I'm catching up on all the madness.

    The "Activision sparked the Live price increase thing".... interesting. Very interesting. I wouldn't be shocked at all if it were a factor. However, I still stand by my "ESPN is fucking expensive" theory, since they charge cable companies through the nose for the rights to the channels. It could be a combination of both.

    Anyway, lemme plow through and see if I can think of something decent for the title.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Very late, but holy crap, everyone here needs to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Even if you hate Jim Carrey. Especially if you hate Jim Carrey. He plays a reserved introvert in the movie, and never gets crazy like he usually does. Awesome, awesome film.

    It's very weird that there's talk of replacing Stringer at Sony already. I mean, the guy's barely been there a year and a half! And while Sony hasn't had any slam-dunks, they haven't done horribly during the recession either.

    Then again, it could be that the 3D gambit hasn't paid off as well as it has (in a recent Wired interview, Stringer said that his entire strategy for Sony is based on 3D), and many at the Japanese company are still wary that there's a foreigner at the helm.

    Meanwhile, this could be the most hilarious high-profile vidja game lawsuit of the year.

    http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/amplifier/21058/axl-roses-hatred-of-slash-results-in-20-million-guitar-hero-lawsuit/
    Eager to become the talk of every music fans' Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, Axl Rose has just issued his most insane lawsuit yet, suing "Guitar Hero" makers Activision for $20 million for featuring Guns N' Roses' "Welcome to the Jungle" in "Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock." Axl initially signed off on "Jungle" being used in the game, but on one condition: Do not put any music by Velvet Revolver, which boasts guitarist Slash (Rose's former bandmate and mortal enemy) in the game. Well, not only did "Guitar Hero III" offer a bunch of Velvet Revolver songs, they crowned Slash the game's spokesperson, featured him on the game's cover and made him a playable avatar. Cue Axl's lawsuit.

    "[Activision] began spinning a web of lies and deception to conceal its true intentions to not only feature Slash and VR prominently in GH III but also promote the game by emphasizing and reinforcing an association between Slash and Guns N' Roses and the band's song 'Welcome to the Jungle,' " Rose's lawyer Skip Miller writes in the $20 million suit. Guns N' Roses' "Sweet Child O' Mine" featured in "Guitar Hero II," and "Shackler's Revenge" from Axl's long-awaited "Chinese Democracy" actually debuted as a game-ending challenge in "Rock Band 2," so Rose isn't opposed to the use of his songs in music video games. This comes down to, once again, Rose's undying hatred of Slash.

    "There's zero possibility of me having anything to do with Slash other than by ambush, and that wouldn't be pretty," Rose said in 2009. "In a nutshell, personally I consider him a cancer and better removed, avoided." Rose also sued his former manager Irving Azoff, the CEO of Live Nation Ticketmaster, accusing Azoff of conspiring to assemble a Guns N' Roses reunion tour that included Slash. That legal tiff is likely the reason why Axl's GNR hasn't toured the U.S. on its "Chinese Democracy" trek (although a February tour is rumored).

    Why would Axl's lawsuit arrive three years after the release of "Guitar Hero III"? The Amp likes to imagine that during a brief hiatus in the GN'R tour, Rose headed to his local Best Buy to get a jump on some Black Friday shopping. While pushing his cart down the discount video game aisle, he saw the box for "Guitar Hero III" with Slash on the cover and got perturbed. After purchasing the game along with the new deluxe "Avatar" DVD and Nicki Minaj's "Pink Friday," Axl drove back to his home in the Hollywood Hills to see if GNR's music was in fact in the game, only to discover that he bought an XBox 360 copy of "GH3" and he only owned a Playstation 3. Down but not defeated, Rose then realized that he could simply go on Wikipedia to see the game's track list. And then he called his lawyer.

    ....well, as long as it keeps Axl from making any more "music."

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Very late, but holy crap, everyone here needs to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Even if you hate Jim Carrey. Especially if you hate Jim Carrey. He plays a reserved introvert in the movie, and never gets crazy like he usually does. Awesome, awesome film.

    I hated that movie. It literally put me to sleep.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    If the agreement Axl's talking about was a real thing, then I see no reason why he shouldn't sue. Activision's been well known to pull crap like that all the time.

    However, 3 years later? Geez.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Very late, but holy crap, everyone here needs to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Even if you hate Jim Carrey. Especially if you hate Jim Carrey. He plays a reserved introvert in the movie, and never gets crazy like he usually does. Awesome, awesome film.

    I hated that movie. It literally put me to sleep.

    Terrible narrative, decent story, great acting.

    Sheep on
  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Oh christ. Every preview from here on out will have a headline "Crytek shows us their Warface" EVERY SINGLE ONE. You just wait.

    Ungggg. Games journalism.
    Saw this when I browsed the Escapist no more than a few minutes after reading your post. It's already begun.
    warfacef.jpg

    I looked at that linked pic, and saw above the lol Warface bit that S.T.A.L.K.E.R's studio is releasing a line of S.T.A.L.K.E.R game clothes. Huh.

    Colour me intrigued.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    If the agreement Axl's talking about was a real thing, then I see no reason why he shouldn't sue. Activision's been well known to pull crap like that all the time.

    However, 3 years later? Geez.

    Yeah. As petty as it sounds, if that was a part of the contract, it was a part of the contract.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    So do the Japanese like Kinect-ing?
    Kinect sold 26,000 units in Japan during its launch weekend of November 20 and 21 according to figures released by Japanese video game software and hardware tracking firm Media Create, who described the launch as a "quiet start" for the hardware.

    The figure includes stand-alone units as well as those bundled with a console. The tracking firm compared Kinect sales to those of its rival, PlayStation Move, stating that Kinect sold "about half" of what Sony's motion controller achieved during its October debut.

    The relatively poor performance of Microsoft's hardware may be linked to its steeper price. Japanese Move bundles start at 5100 yen (approximately $60.89) compared to 14,800 yen ($176.70) for Kinect units.

    None of Kinect's launch games broke into the Japanese Top 20 chart for the week, Media Create revealing that DanceMasters was the best-selling title in the line-up, shifting 6,000 copies, placing it in 24th in Media Create's top 50.

    Kinect Sports debuted at 45. Crossboard 7, New Brain Training and Sonic Free Riders did not feature in the top 50. By way of comparison, during PlayStation Move's launch week, four Move games featured in the the top 20 with combined sales of well over 50,000 copies.

    http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31739/Kinect_Sells_26000_Units_In_Japan_Over_Launch_Weekend.php

    Microsoft has pretty much given up on Japan at this point, haven't they?

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    They must be the 26,000 japanese who actually have livingrooms large enough for kinect to work.

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    That number is actually quite a bit higher than what I would have guessed from Japan.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Isn't that like more people than actually own XBox 360s in Japan. ;)

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Well, that number's at least three times what the 360 usually sells in a week over there, if not four or five times. So that's actually not bad.

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