Ha ha EA I quit giving you money years ago anyway.
Your loss, you've missed out on some damn good games. Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, Burnout Paradise, Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age just off the top of my head.
My gain, you mean. Dragon Age and Mirror's Edge were awful. Mass Effect is just offensive. I've never even heard of Burnout Paradise. I have to admit I liked Dead Space for about 6 hours tho. Happily, I only borrowed all of them so EA still didn't get any of me precious zenny.
EA is focusing way too much on trying to make cool stories (yet failing) and letting gameplay just sort of fill in some gaps.
What'd you gain exactly? Horrible taste?
Money.
And calm down. My opinion doesn't invalidate yours.
Ha ha EA I quit giving you money years ago anyway.
Your loss, you've missed out on some damn good games. Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, Burnout Paradise, Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age just off the top of my head.
My gain, you mean. Dragon Age and Mirror's Edge were awful. Mass Effect is just offensive. I've never even heard of Burnout Paradise. I have to admit I liked Dead Space for about 6 hours tho. Happily, I only borrowed all of them so EA still didn't get any of me precious zenny.
EA is focusing way too much on trying to make cool stories (yet failing) and letting gameplay just sort of fill in some gaps.
What'd you gain exactly? Horrible taste?
Money.
And calm down. My opinion doesn't invalidate yours.
Unco-ordinated's comment doesn't look all that angry to me. Maybe he's just curious about how you could have an opinion that's so completely different from the general consensus.
What exactly was wrong with those games? How did the stories fail? What was wrong with the gameplay? And finally, how was ME2 offensive?
What exactly was wrong with those games? How did the stories fail? What was wrong with the gameplay? And finally, how was ME2 offensive?
I'm not going into it again. I'm not looking to convince anyone or change anyone's mind. It just ends in shoutery. Suffice to say I have zero patience for stories anymore, period and the gameplay just didn't grab me at all.
Michael "Shagg" Washington, a "backup singer" with rap act Cypress Hill, has decided in 2010 to sue Grand Theft Auto developers Rockstar for a game they released in 2004. Why? He reckons he's the star of GTA: San Andreas.
Washington, who says he only just heard about the game from his nephew, is basing his case on the claim that in 2003 Rockstar met with him to speak about his life growing up in gangs, during which time he told the developers, among other things, "how the teen-agers (sic) in his gang rode around on bicycles".
They should change it to: Most Popular Game Awards.
Unless you've played all the games in each category how can you really say which is the "best"?
I loved Mass Effect 2, but was it the best RPG? I played maybe 1 other RPG on that list, so I don't know.
I don't know about anyone else, but it's a goddamn travesty that AP isn't at least on the RPG list.
AP? You mean Alpha Protocol? Didn't that get horrible reviews?
Yes, which is why I completely understand it not even being considered in any other category. But compared to something like infinite space or a psp port of lunar?
They should change it to: Most Popular Game Awards.
Unless you've played all the games in each category how can you really say which is the "best"?
I loved Mass Effect 2, but was it the best RPG? I played maybe 1 other RPG on that list, so I don't know.
I don't know about anyone else, but it's a goddamn travesty that AP isn't at least on the RPG list.
AP? You mean Alpha Protocol? Didn't that get horrible reviews?
Yes, which is why I completely understand it not even being considered in any other category. But compared to something like infinite space or a psp port of persona 3?
Yeah, plus Deadly Premonition got on there and it scored even worse then AP.
It almost makes me think it's a bunch of bullshit and we shouldn't care anyway. Eh? EEEEEH?
It's a bunch of bullshit and we shouldn't care anyway.
I thought it got like 7s and 8s. It was a good deux ex style RPG that was liked when people realized it actually was an RPG and the main character had d20 bullets. I think it's being left out of even consideration kind of sucks, especially based on just how good aspects of the game where compared to others on that list.
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Where do they "prove" it's a fad? I'm not seeing it in the article.
Again, the Kotaku article never said that Pokemon was a fad. They just said that Monster Hunter might be even more popular in Japan than Pokemon. And now that we have some hard sales numbers, that's easily dispelled.
Still, it did crazy good. 2 million sales in opening week and a quarter million boost in console sales is pretty impressive.
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Where do they "prove" it's a fad? I'm not seeing it in the article.
The title of the article? The first paragraph? The basic premise?
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Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Releasing it after ME2 was really the death knell for it. Compared to ME1, AP doesn't look too bad; it's a bit better at some things, much worse at others. But when a reviewer plays ME2 and then AP a few weeks later, AP really starts to look dated.
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Where do they "prove" it's a fad? I'm not seeing it in the article.
The title of the article? The first paragraph? The basic premise?
The only thing that article is proving is that you've got a grudge against Kotaku.
Michael "Shagg" Washington, a "backup singer" with rap act Cypress Hill, has decided in 2010 to sue Grand Theft Auto developers Rockstar for a game they released in 2004. Why? He reckons he's the star of GTA: San Andreas.
Washington, who says he only just heard about the game from his nephew, is basing his case on the claim that in 2003 Rockstar met with him to speak about his life growing up in gangs, during which time he told the developers, among other things, "how the teen-agers (sic) in his gang rode around on bicycles".
I never thought someone would manage to make Axl Rose look like Speedy Gonzalez, but here we are.
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Where do they "prove" it's a fad? I'm not seeing it in the article.
The title of the article? The first paragraph? The basic premise?
I think you're reading way more into it then you should be. They aren't saying that at all. They even admit that the Pokermans is still more popular worldwide. They're just wondering if Monster Hunter's popularity is more then Pokemon's and only in Japan.
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Releasing it after ME2 was really the death knell for it. Compared to ME1, AP doesn't look too bad; it's a bit better at some things, much worse at others. But when a reviewer plays ME2 and then AP a few weeks later, AP really starts to look dated.
Eh, at least on PC, that's debatable. Both had some issues with forcing AA. Both had spotty textures, but unlike ME2, AP also had some noticeably good texture work.
From what I've heard AP is a pretty good game now, but at launch was really buggy. Can't blame the reviewers for reviewing what they were given.
It was a good game to begin with. People just pissed and moaned that it was an RPG heavily based in stats. They'd shoot a guy in the head with a pistol, get pissed off that the bad guy's skull didn't pop and gib like in Gears of War, and claim the game was broken.
Specifically, (most) US reviewers are retarded. Because they couldn't tell a good story from a Transformers 2 (stupid scenarios tied together by a string, like Call of Duty games). European reviewers (and a couple of awesome US writers, like Chris Remo) tended to be a lot more favourable because of the fantastic writing and scenarios.
And no Magic Pink, I wasn't worked up. I was countering your snark with my own.
Eh, at least on PC, that's debatable. Both had some issues with forcing AA. Both had spotty textures, but unlike ME2, AP also had some noticeably good texture work.
Can't really blame either developer for the issues with forcing AA, since it's an UE3 problem. Well I guess they could've made DX10 versions of their games but I can understand why they didn't.
AP is certainly my darkhorse candidate for GOTY 2010. I'd also like to put Saboteur but that technically came out last year, even if I didn't play it until this year.
that's really interesting. i wonder though if there are any limitations and why it wasn't at that level from the start. is there not enough horsepower to be that precise and run a game at the same time? unlikely. do you have to be so close to the device in order to have that level of accuracy?
while it is pretty neat, I still fail to see broad gaming applications other than niche roles and poorly implemented casual ware.
i was thinking about the next gen and the likelihood of some new gimmick and i wonder if you could do simulated 3D without glasses with a camera that is solely devoted to excellent face tracking. I wonder if this is doable with kinect or if lag would ruin the effect.
but even something like that i don't think would really fly outside of niche applications since you'd have to move your head a considerable amount in order to get the effect.
Seriously, get this working on the 360 and give me some kind of detective game with a Minority Report interface. There are more games than just action games, and Kinect lends itself perfectly to slower-paced things.
I think it would be useful for the 360's media centre functionalities. You probably have a lot more RAM/resources free when you're playing a video or looking at pictures. I've always found the 360's UI to be really bad when it comes to those things.
And AP is certainly not winning GotY. It's a good game but it's not a critic's game.
Anyway talking about other RPGs. MH3 portable sold pretty well, didn't it? Though not as well as pokemon did. Which gives me another chance to point out how silly kotaku's 'article' comparing their line lengths, and 'proving' that pokmon is a fad, was. Since the earlier post was eaten by the forum hiccup.
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
Releasing it after ME2 was really the death knell for it. Compared to ME1, AP doesn't look too bad; it's a bit better at some things, much worse at others. But when a reviewer plays ME2 and then AP a few weeks later, AP really starts to look dated.
Eh, at least on PC, that's debatable. Both had some issues with forcing AA. Both had spotty textures, but unlike ME2, AP also had some noticeably good texture work.
Everyone also needs to keep in mind it's Spoit's thing to prefer AP over ME2.
I'm thoroughly convinced that the Kinect UI will get better over time.
Everybody keeps going "ooh look see Minority Report" on this, but aside from glowy graphic effects it seems both unwieldy and useless. He's sitting much closer than Microsoft wants people to get to Kinect, and it still has trouble keeping a steady bead on all his fingers. Additionally, he doesn't even do anything that would require finger recognition, merely showing that "yes, it can see when I've spread my fingers apart."
I'm thoroughly convinced that the Kinect UI will get better over time.
Everybody keeps going "ooh look see Minority Report" on this, but aside from glowy graphics it seems both unwieldy and useless. He's sitting much closer than Microsoft wants people to get to Kinect, and it still has trouble keeping a steady bead on all his fingers. Additionally, he doesn't even do anything that would require finger recognition, merely showing that "yes, it can see when I've spread my fingers apart."
If it can recognize your fingers, which is something people were holding against Kinect a while ago, wouldn't that mean that apps could be built around recognizing fingers? Just because the app he was demonstrating doesn't need fingers doesn't make the fact that Kinect is precise enough to recognize fingers any less interesting.
I agree about the sitting closer thing though. I wonder if the Kinect would still be able to recognize fingers if you were 4 or 5 feet away.
I'm thoroughly convinced that the Kinect UI will get better over time.
Everybody keeps going "ooh look see Minority Report" on this, but aside from glowy graphics it seems both unwieldy and useless. He's sitting much closer than Microsoft wants people to get to Kinect, and it still has trouble keeping a steady bead on all his fingers. Additionally, he doesn't even do anything that would require finger recognition, merely showing that "yes, it can see when I've spread my fingers apart."
If it can recognize your fingers, which is something people were holding against Kinect a while ago, wouldn't that mean that apps could be built around recognizing fingers? Just because the app he was demonstrating doesn't need fingers doesn't make the fact that Kinect is precise enough to recognize fingers any less interesting.
I agree about the sitting closer thing though. I wonder if the Kinect would still be able to recognize fingers if you were 4 or 5 feet away.
Yeah, I was kind of encompassing a few things at once. He has to sit closer, but that's ok because hey, it senses his fingers...except the blue dots of his fingers are flashing on and off during the whole video, which doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
It can be done with better accuracy if you sit even closer, which has actually been demonstrated already.
Basically I'm not impressed until I see a keyboard app come up and watch him type a paragraph. Frankly I thought that was what this video would be all about showcasing.
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Unco-ordinated's comment doesn't look all that angry to me. Maybe he's just curious about how you could have an opinion that's so completely different from the general consensus.
What exactly was wrong with those games? How did the stories fail? What was wrong with the gameplay? And finally, how was ME2 offensive?
I'm not going into it again. I'm not looking to convince anyone or change anyone's mind. It just ends in shoutery. Suffice to say I have zero patience for stories anymore, period and the gameplay just didn't grab me at all.
Also, hilarity!
I don't know about anyone else, but it's a goddamn travesty that AP isn't at least on the RPG list.
AP? You mean Alpha Protocol? Didn't that get horrible reviews?
Yes, which is why I completely understand it not even being considered in any other category. But compared to something like infinite space or a psp port of lunar?
Yeah, plus Deadly Premonition got on there and it scored even worse then AP.
It almost makes me think it's a bunch of bullshit and we shouldn't care anyway. Eh? EEEEEH?
edit: Oh, that's PC. Consoles got low 60's. I love how they complain that it "feels like a 4 year old game."
Four years old. wtf publishers
EDIT: It probably didn't help that SEGA held AP back 6 months, conveniently putting it outside of the holliday period as well as after both ME2 and splinter cell conviction, without touching it at all :rotate:
That thing is fucking bullshit.
Where do they "prove" it's a fad? I'm not seeing it in the article.
Still, it did crazy good. 2 million sales in opening week and a quarter million boost in console sales is pretty impressive.
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The title of the article? The first paragraph? The basic premise?
Releasing it after ME2 was really the death knell for it. Compared to ME1, AP doesn't look too bad; it's a bit better at some things, much worse at others. But when a reviewer plays ME2 and then AP a few weeks later, AP really starts to look dated.
The only thing that article is proving is that you've got a grudge against Kotaku.
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I never thought someone would manage to make Axl Rose look like Speedy Gonzalez, but here we are.
I think you're reading way more into it then you should be. They aren't saying that at all. They even admit that the Pokermans is still more popular worldwide. They're just wondering if Monster Hunter's popularity is more then Pokemon's and only in Japan.
Eh, at least on PC, that's debatable. Both had some issues with forcing AA. Both had spotty textures, but unlike ME2, AP also had some noticeably good texture work.
Because people are fucking retarded.
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There's only been one patch, and that's only been for the PC version. Which the most notable fix was a PC only mouse issue. Oh and removed the DRM
Edit: I like how Supreme Commander 2 is a choice for best PC exclusive, top line work if ever there was.
I don't even bother with game of the year stuff anymore, apparently Mass Effect 2 was a 360 exclusive and Minecraft doesn't count as downloadable.
It's still in Alpha.
It was a good game to begin with. People just pissed and moaned that it was an RPG heavily based in stats. They'd shoot a guy in the head with a pistol, get pissed off that the bad guy's skull didn't pop and gib like in Gears of War, and claim the game was broken.
Specifically, (most) US reviewers are retarded. Because they couldn't tell a good story from a Transformers 2 (stupid scenarios tied together by a string, like Call of Duty games). European reviewers (and a couple of awesome US writers, like Chris Remo) tended to be a lot more favourable because of the fantastic writing and scenarios.
And no Magic Pink, I wasn't worked up. I was countering your snark with my own.
Can't really blame either developer for the issues with forcing AA, since it's an UE3 problem. Well I guess they could've made DX10 versions of their games but I can understand why they didn't.
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that's really interesting. i wonder though if there are any limitations and why it wasn't at that level from the start. is there not enough horsepower to be that precise and run a game at the same time? unlikely. do you have to be so close to the device in order to have that level of accuracy?
while it is pretty neat, I still fail to see broad gaming applications other than niche roles and poorly implemented casual ware.
i was thinking about the next gen and the likelihood of some new gimmick and i wonder if you could do simulated 3D without glasses with a camera that is solely devoted to excellent face tracking. I wonder if this is doable with kinect or if lag would ruin the effect.
but even something like that i don't think would really fly outside of niche applications since you'd have to move your head a considerable amount in order to get the effect.
Seriously, get this working on the 360 and give me some kind of detective game with a Minority Report interface. There are more games than just action games, and Kinect lends itself perfectly to slower-paced things.
And AP is certainly not winning GotY. It's a good game but it's not a critic's game.
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Everyone also needs to keep in mind it's Spoit's thing to prefer AP over ME2.
Everybody keeps going "ooh look see Minority Report" on this, but aside from glowy graphic effects it seems both unwieldy and useless. He's sitting much closer than Microsoft wants people to get to Kinect, and it still has trouble keeping a steady bead on all his fingers. Additionally, he doesn't even do anything that would require finger recognition, merely showing that "yes, it can see when I've spread my fingers apart."
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edit: Oh Sporkles, you so negative.
If it can recognize your fingers, which is something people were holding against Kinect a while ago, wouldn't that mean that apps could be built around recognizing fingers? Just because the app he was demonstrating doesn't need fingers doesn't make the fact that Kinect is precise enough to recognize fingers any less interesting.
I agree about the sitting closer thing though. I wonder if the Kinect would still be able to recognize fingers if you were 4 or 5 feet away.
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Yeah, I was kind of encompassing a few things at once. He has to sit closer, but that's ok because hey, it senses his fingers...except the blue dots of his fingers are flashing on and off during the whole video, which doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
It can be done with better accuracy if you sit even closer, which has actually been demonstrated already.
Basically I'm not impressed until I see a keyboard app come up and watch him type a paragraph. Frankly I thought that was what this video would be all about showcasing.