[WoW][Chat] Happy Tanksgiving!

Sterica

What on earth is this?

It's a proper OP for Blizzard's Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game, World of Warcraft. Most players just call it WoW.

Why should I care?

Because it's an MMORPG by Blizzard, the developer of many amazing games such as Diablo and Starcraft. This December, we see the launch of the game's third expansion.

Well, what’s in this expansion?

Glad you asked!

-The old zones for 1-60 leveling have been revamped. New maps, quests and items all updated to reflect the passing years since WoW was released. Updated lore and philosophy behind quests and leveling gear make the experience better all around.
-Level cap increased to 85.
-Two new races: goblins for the Horde and worgen for the Alliance.
-New class availability for preexisting races.
-New secondary profession: Archeology
-New zones for 78-85.
-Rated Battlegrounds
-Two new battlegrounds: Gilneas and Twin Peaks.
-The ability to use flying mounts in Azeroth.
-Guild leveling and achievements, complete with perks and items.
-Reforging, allowing you to change 40% of one stat on item with an equal amount of another.

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READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU DAMN GEESE

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Glyph Changes
Gem Changes
Stat Changes
Reforging Info
New Class Mechanics
Guild UI Changes
Streaming Launcher Info
Known Issues in 4.0.1

[url=Patch 4.0.1
Released October 12th, 2010
-The shattering is NOT occurring. This means NO changes to Azeroth's landmass.
-You can run ZG still.
-You CANNOT purchase your flying license in Azeroth.
-You CAN purchase your 310% mount speed for 5,000g.
-Your mounts WILL all scale to your highest skill level.
-You WILL get new talents and skills up to 80.
-You WILL get to reforge your gear. Talk to a guard for directions.
-You WILL get the new glyph system.
-All classes WILL get their new mechanics, if any.
-Stats WILL be changing. Armor Penetration, Mana per Five Seconds and so forth will be replaced with other stats.
-Guilds WILL have a cap of 1,000 members. Pre-4.0 guilds will be grandfathered in: they can stay past the hard cap but will be unable to invite new members until they go under 1,000.
-You will NOT have guild leveling.
-You will NOT have new class/race combos.
-I shouldn't have to say this, but you CANNOT roll Worgen or Goblins.
-Pre-Expansion events WILL be occurring. Enjoy!
-The Guild UI WILL be changed to the Cataclysm version.
-The events for Echo Isles and Gnomeregan have ended.

Patch 4.0.3
Released November 16th, 2010
This patch mainly just preloaded all the data for the Shattering.

Patch 4.0.3a
Expected to be released either November 23rd or 30th.
-The Shattering will occur, changing Azeroth's landmass.^
-The new race/class combinations will be available.
-New quests and 1-60 leveling experience will be in.
-Portals from Dalaran and Shattrath will be removed and replaced with class trainers and auctioneers.
-You can fly in Dalaran (requires Cold Weather Flying).
-Total experience required to go from 71 to 80 reduced by 20%.
-I can't believe I have to say this, but you CANNOT level past 80.
-Another obvious thing I have to state: you cannot enter Cataclysm 80+ zones and you will be ported out if you sneak in.
-You CANNOT fly in Azeroth.
-No, you still can't roll Worgen or Goblins.

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
December 7th, 2010 at 12:00am PST
-Guild Leveling and achievements are active.
-You can purchase your Azeroth flying license starting at level 60.
-You can level past 80 and enter the new zones.*
-You can purchase a race change for goblins/worgen* and the new race/class combinations.
-You can increase your profession cap past 450*.
-You can learn Archaeology.*
-Yes, you can roll a fucking Worgen or Goblin.*

*Requires you to have upgraded your account to Cataclysm. It's $39.99 for the standard edition and $79.99 for the Collector's Edition.

^Let's discuss the Shattering, shall we? This is ongoing as I get more info.

-Zul'Gurub will be removed from the game. The raptor hatchling will still be in the game. The mounts will not.
-Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj will be changed to a 10man raid. Intended level remains the same (60).
-Loremasters will retain their achievements.
-Any pre-shattering quest removed from the game post-shattering will have the offending quests removed from their log.
-Players still working towards quest-related achievements may see their quest totals lowered as a result of the above.
-There will be new achievements for doing X quests in each post-shattering 1-60 zone. Loremasters will NOT have these by default.
-Absolutely nothing is changing in regards to gathering professions. All herbs, skins and minerals will remain the same.
-Insane in the Membrane will still be available after the shattering, but will not require Dire Maul rep.
-Players who did get their Dire Maul rep up to exalted will receive a feat of strength (as that faction IS leaving).
-All ZG achievements will become feats of strength.

Sterica

I assume there is somebody who actually reads this. That one person keeps me going.

-SPI-

I wonder how much money mages could make offering ports from dalaran to major cities from 4.03a to cata launch.

Aphostile

Rorus Raz wrote: »

I assume there is somebody who actually reads this. That one person keeps me going.

I read it and because of you and this:

-Total experience required to go from 71 to 80 reduced by 20%.

I will not have wasted my time leveling my warrior this weekend and will instead level a different character!

Javen

Anyone know if they buffed the damage of 65+ mobs yet? I remember that was their plan, but I was hoping to clear out some of the last minute BC faction grinds that you couldn't really solo as a rogue before. Or solo ZG bosses et cetera

The Dude With Herpes

I'm pretty sure the buffs mobs got in 4.0.1 is all they're gonna get. They actually didn't scale too much at lower levels; they adjusted ability scaling instead. For the most part it didn't effect pre-80 stuff too terribly much.

Well...it did but they retooled the change some time ago after it was shown that outland and specifically northrend mobs were too difficult. But that was awhile back and was long since fixed.

815165

That reminds me, I never got round to finishing the Maghar grind like three years ago or whatever. Should probably get that done now that there's nothing to do until the shattering.

Bloodshed

Rorus Raz wrote: »

I assume there is somebody who actually reads this. That one person keeps me going.

I read it. I knew it all, already, but I read it anyways, pretending to be informed as I went.

You're welcome. ;-)

Nice OP, mate :P

The Dude With Herpes

815165 wrote: »

That reminds me, I never got round to finishing the Maghar grind like three years ago or whatever. Should probably get that done now that there's nothing to do until the shattering.

I thought those reps were being removed entirely. No? I don't think Desolace even has their quest chains anymore.

815165

I mean the Orcs in Nagrand, I think the Centaur are the Magram.

Oh, these got unlocked by that weird personality test thing, there's twenty total once they're all unlocked I think. The Gary Platner interview is pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYoTggr9gMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbAM5xxqCEM

Corehealer

From the last chat thread:

Demiurge wrote: »

Don't do this with your authenticator, kids.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why would anybody be that stupid?

HappylilElf

One day Blizzard will allow me to actually purchase the Cata preorder bundle

That day is not today however >_<

Javen

The Dude With Herpes wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the buffs mobs got in 4.0.1 is all they're gonna get. They actually didn't scale too much at lower levels; they adjusted ability scaling instead. For the most part it didn't effect pre-80 stuff too terribly much.

Well...it did but they retooled the change some time ago after it was shown that outland and specifically northrend mobs were too difficult. But that was awhile back and was long since fixed.

That's good news. The original figure I saw way back on the beta forums was something like 150 percent, or something like that, so I'm glad they toned it down a bit

Fig-D

Corehealer wrote: »

From the last chat thread:

Demiurge wrote: »

Don't do this with your authenticator, kids.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why would anybody be that stupid?

I'm not convinced that this is a real story. Sounds like some internet copy/paste tale.

The Dude With Herpes

815165 wrote: »

I mean the Orcs in Nagrand, I think the Centaur are the Magram.

Oh, these got unlocked by that weird personality test thing, there's twenty total once they're all unlocked I think. The Gary Platner interview is pretty cool.

Oh yeah, dur.

I actually found the Maghar/Kurenai grinds really really easy. Particularly if you're not working on Consortium too; all those warbeads can just go to your faction. And you get rep per kill all the way to exalted.

Topia

Why does 4.0.3.a take out the Dal portals? I'll just have to be perma-hearthed to shattrath city

Oats

Shat's portals are gone, too.

The Dude With Herpes

Yep, no more portals like that.

Well, SW and Org will have portals to some Cata stuff; but that's it.

They want people to use the cities instead of everyone parking in one "hub" like in TBC/WotLK.

I feel sorry for mages.

I needed anime to post.

Yeah I feel really bad for mages, earning all that gold by charging for portals :P

Dadouw

I usually get like 15g by portal

Topia

Is there at least AH's in Shat and Dal now? So we can actually do something there instead of wasting 30-60 min travelling back and forth to Org?

Aurin

So Shattrath and Dalaran will be the ghost cities instead of the old world. Yum. @_@

Bloodshed

Ironforge is going to be super crowded again. 100 people sitting on the IF Bridge, like the old days.
Super.

Kevin Crist

Topia wrote: »

Is there at least AH's in Shat and Dal now? So we can actually do something there instead of wasting 30-60 min travelling back and forth to Org?

There's one in Dal for engineers, which my Pally finds useful during Elemental invasions.

Sterica

Bloodshed wrote: »

Ironforge is going to be super crowded again. 100 people sitting on the IF Bridge, like the old days.
Super.

Cities encourage more of a spread now with there being multiple bankers and auctioneers spread all over. The new Org has at least three or four, if not more.

also, you'll have just your faction instead of every single person at level cap.

Bloodshed

Now that is comforting news.

Tyberius

Also yes Dal and Shatt will have both trainers and auctioneers so no reason to leave Outland/Northrend as you level.

Monsty

Another thread, another OP to skip over. Ahh, good times.

I kid. It's purdy, Raz

Sterica

We got eight-hour maintenance on Tuesday.

If 4.0.3a isn't on the 23rd, they are being cruel motherfuckers.

Dranyth

Reeeally now? When I saw that Thanksgiving stuff started on the 21st I started thinking that maybe they would bump it over to the 30th. But eight-hour maintenance seems to kind of seal it.

Dammit, only two more ZG attempts left then.

The Dude With Herpes

I know people would flip their shit but I'd love it if like sometime tomorrow they did their usual "The server is being reset in 15 minutes, please log off" thing and push out 4.0.3a with no warning at all.

Aurin

Anyone run into this problem? I moved my old game-only hard drive over into my new shiny computer, but I keep getting "Lost connection to updater" on the launcher.

If it's not that, then a window pops up saying "World of Warcraft is performing initial setup of required data files. This may take a few minutes." It says it wants the launcher to complete, but the silly launcher sits at the start, saying it's applying non-critical updates if it doesn't crash. ~_~

Maybe I just need to copy hubby's folder over to re-do all my files.

Edit: Hmm. Seems I didn't have ownership of the drive. We'll see if that helps. >.>

Edit 2: Yep, security settings and the WoW Repair tool fixed me up I guess. Whew.

TheGerbil

Oh hey I think I'll put a link to

Absolute rape face

right here.

Javen

Holy shit I don't even recognize my protection paladin

Jungleskye

Yeah I play a Prot Paladin. They are almost 100% changed, from pre 4.0

Lars

The most annoying thing to me about the portal removal is that Anzu is finally always in heroic Sethekk Halls but now it's going to be a pain to go out there every day.

JohnnyToxxic

I'm not very happy that the portals are going away. Probably because I like the convenience of being able to go wherever I want whenever I want.

Slap in the face!

Opty

I bet that the portals going away will cause raiding to drop off near completely and/or cause the amount of summons requests to skyrocket.

Zek

I was waiting for 4.0.3a to start playing but it just occurred to me that I can just roll a Death Knight in the meantime. They have their own instance that's completely unaffected by the shattering and then they go straight to BC, right? Is there anything I would gain by waiting a few days?

815165

Zek wrote: »

I was waiting for 4.0.3a to start playing but it just occurred to me that I can just roll a Death Knight in the meantime. They have their own instance that's completely unaffected by the shattering and then they go straight to BC, right? Is there anything I would gain by waiting a few days?

Nothing changes in the DK starter zone, it's still its own little bubble.

Tyberius

Opty wrote: »

I bet that the portals going away will cause raiding to drop off near completely and/or cause the amount of summons requests to skyrocket.

From what I've seen concerning instances in Northrend and summon requests in WotLK, the number will stay the same. I mean hell people ask for summons from Dalaran to Vault WHEN WE CONTROL WINTERGRASP!