Earlier today, the Migrant Fleet rescued an Eldfell-Ashland Energy employee drifting through the Nubian Expanse in a lifepod. Navigator Camilla Gutierrez, the only survivor of the MSV Stanislaw, says that quarians had nothing to do with the attack that stranded her: "The ship's silhouette was just massive. There's no way the quarians had that monster in their Flotilla. I've never seen anything like it." Asked about the attack itself, Gutierrez reported, "They blew out our engines before we knew what hit us. Smoke was everywhere. I heard the captain yell something about boarders before he ordered us to the lifepods." Eldfell-Ashland says it is relieved Gutierrez was recovered, but that the Citadel investigation should continue "until all parties involved are satisfied."
So, another Collector Ship, Reaper or something new?
aaaa omg omg
i really really really hope it is batarian-related
also, shep isn't designed by epic games, he's not a huge-cankled meathead, so as far as i'm concerned, shep can easily be an adept, engineer, vanguard, etc.
besides, "training and grit" aren't what makes soldier succeed. fucking matrix slowmo with twice the damage is what makes soldier succeed.
honestly i'd think more highly of soldier if they swapped adrenaline rush for immunity; to me, immunity feels a lot "tougher" than an auto-win button every 3 seconds
maybe the batarians got that leviathan up and running finally, cant see it being a reaper ship with them getting boarded and i dont think there are any other collector outposts since it would make the end game of me2 pretty moot, unless
its another pre-prothean race that were enslaved the same way to process more races into reapers, if indeed the stuff that was going on at the end of me2 was in fact how the reapers are made and not just some one off test thing, it would make sense they had another races go around collecting past species before protheans
What is the leviathan and why have we let the batarians keep it?
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The Leviathan of Dis is the name given to a gigantic corpse that disappeared from a crater on Jartar in 2163. It is believed to be the remains of a genetically engineered starship and its age was originally placed at nearly a billion years old.
However there was little time to study it. Not long after its discovery by a batarian survey team, a batarian dreadnought visited the Dis system, after which the Leviathan mysteriously disappeared. The batarians have since strenuously denied that the Leviathan existed at all. They become even more vocal when showed documentation of the Leviathan by salarian researchers before its disappearance.
Plush! What if it means the Batarians accidentally activated the Leviathan, and it started slaughtering Batarians before moving on to attack that ship? Maybe we will learn that the Batarian homeworld has been utterly destroyed (thus saving us the trouble)?!
Also maybe I will win the lottery and be independently wealthy for the rest of my life
But...if the batarians are dead, who will we hate then? Who will we hate then?!
Plush! What if it means the Batarians accidentally activated the Leviathan, and it started slaughtering Batarians before moving on to attack that ship? Maybe we will learn that the Batarian homeworld has been utterly destroyed (thus saving us the trouble)?!
Also maybe I will win the lottery and be independently wealthy for the rest of my life
But...if the batarians are dead, who will we hate then? Who will we hate then?!
The vorcha.
And the Quarians who are still pissy about the Geth.
I admit to being unable to play as anything other than a soldier. You may now expel me from the thread.
There is a reason they put in the soldier. It's for people who love the story/characters/universe but just DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY FUN.
edit: Just kidding of course. You hate everything about ME2. That's why you play as soldier. You probably also eat babies.
At least I'm not a Batarian sympathizer, Batarian sympathizer.
Those are fighting words sir. Even my most Paragon of Shepards killed every last stinking one of those animals. I'll never forget the blitz, and I'll never forgive them for the death of my son.
Kaidan is a Second Lieutenant, pretty much your second-in-command aboard Normandy (you never talk with Pressly!), a skilled biotic and an experienced soldier. His mission, with the nuclear weapon, is immensely crucial to the main objective as a whole, and decides if everyone will get out of there alive or not.
Pressly always had the deck when I left the ship. He will be missed.
Ashley is a random marine grunt who shouldn't have a place in the game or aboard the Normandy in the first place. Her mission is not crucial. Only loss will be her.
Ashley was a chief so I figured she was Navy. I always assumed that since Shepard was a Commander the N7 special forces (or whatever) were more Navy SEAL instead of Marine Corps. No big deal. She had a serious issue with respecting the difference between command officer and enlisted which was quickly straightened out.
Definitely, my top five best characters would have to be, in no particular order.
Wrex.
Garrus.
Ashley.
Tali.
Mordin.
Ashley is not a racist, nor is she space Hitler, she is simply smart enough to question the wisdom of trusting the council and smart enough to question the wisdom of letting alien nationals aboard a human warship.
Ashley is a terrible and nonsensical soldier who has no justification for the way she acts, nor her presence aboard your ship. She has no skills beyond the most basic of Alliance training, is fundamentally incapable of proper tact and diplomacy in a hostile environment and consistently acts on her own initiative in ways unbecoming a soldier.
Just because she has a sad backstory and can quote poetry doesn't make her a good soldier or squadmate. She is a terrible soldier and never learns from her mistakes. There is no reason not to leave her on Virmire, because she offers no skills or perspectives that are not also offered by the other members of your team and crew.
I don't hate Ashley, but she should not be a member of your team and is, in fact, the most expendable. I just cannot justify to myself why Shepard keeps her on the ship after Anderson leaves.
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Ashley is a terrible and nonsensical soldier who has no justification for the way she acts, nor her presence aboard your ship. She has no skills beyond the most basic of Alliance training, is fundamentally incapable of proper tact and diplomacy in a hostile environment and consistently acts on her own initiative in ways unbecoming a soldier.
Just because she has a sad backstory and can quote poetry doesn't make her a good soldier or squadmate. She is a terrible soldier and never learns from her mistakes. There is no reason not to leave her on Virmire, because she offers no skills or perspectives that are not also offered by the other members of your team and crew.
I don't hate Ashley, but she should not be a member of your team and is, in fact, the most expendable. I just cannot justify to myself why Shepard keeps her on the ship after Anderson leaves.
Basically. I never saw her as a hater of aliens in general. Her distrust was reasonable since she was a military minded individual. one of the problems was she acted like a member of your group but she was an enlisted soldier while everyone else was either an officer (Kaiden) or not in the military. Wrex was a superior tank (in my opinion). I never used her, didn't like talking to her and basically found her expendable.
Everyone gets their opinions, and I think some people are not taking the jokes as, well, jokes :P
Ashley is a terrible and nonsensical soldier who has no justification for the way she acts, nor her presence aboard your ship. She has no skills beyond the most basic of Alliance training, is fundamentally incapable of proper tact and diplomacy in a hostile environment and consistently acts on her own initiative in ways unbecoming a soldier.
Just because she has a sad backstory and can quote poetry doesn't make her a good soldier or squadmate. She is a terrible soldier and never learns from her mistakes. There is no reason not to leave her on Virmire, because she offers no skills or perspectives that are not also offered by the other members of your team and crew.
I don't hate Ashley, but she should not be a member of your team and is, in fact, the most expendable. I just cannot justify to myself why Shepard keeps her on the ship after Anderson leaves.
Why should a freelance Krogan mercenary or an eighteen year old Quarian be a part of the mission? Over half the original Normandy team should probably not have been a part of the mission, but qualifications are besides the fact, I like Ashley so that is why she gets saved and mister headache boy gets nuked.
Edit: And Ashley was a very useful squadmate in my experience, I'd have a team of Ashley and Tali or Ashley and Liara, and we would absolutely wreck everyone's shit.
There have also been lengthy discussions on this thread about how Garrus is just a rubbish cop with questionable morals. And what about Liara? The naive archaeologist who took years to figure out only part of what Shepard absorbed in a few seconds. It's not like she made any difference in the Noveria quest. They both became pretty good at obliterating as the game wore on but so did Ashley.
The argument that Ashley is bad because she didn't have much to offer when she joined the crew is pretty redundant in the face of that.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited November 2010
Did it ever really matter?
The only characters who offered anything storyline crucial were Tali(with the super-legit Geth recording) and Liara(by telling you where Ilos is).
Not that I really cared, as long as they can kill shit the more the merrier.
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The only characters who offered anything storyline crucial were Tali(with the super-legit Geth recording) and Liara(by telling you where Ilos is).
Not that I really cared, as long as they can kill shit the more the merrier.
Well you also needed Garrus to get to Fist right?
No, theoretically you don't even need to pick him up. (Wrex will take you there too, though that takes away the awesome 'too many people have died for you to just walk away!' dialog option).
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited November 2010
Naw, there were like 2 or so different ways to do it.
Ashley is a terrible and nonsensical soldier who has no justification for the way she acts, nor her presence aboard your ship. She has no skills beyond the most basic of Alliance training, is fundamentally incapable of proper tact and diplomacy in a hostile environment and consistently acts on her own initiative in ways unbecoming a soldier.
Just because she has a sad backstory and can quote poetry doesn't make her a good soldier or squadmate. She is a terrible soldier and never learns from her mistakes. There is no reason not to leave her on Virmire, because she offers no skills or perspectives that are not also offered by the other members of your team and crew.
I don't hate Ashley, but she should not be a member of your team and is, in fact, the most expendable. I just cannot justify to myself why Shepard keeps her on the ship after Anderson leaves.
you could find many such reasons for the other crewmembers
Why the hell do we bring a violent Krogan bountyhunter with a penchant for not following orders onboard
why do we bring a random Turian police officer onboard an alliance military ship
why do we employ an unstable officer with brainproblems with a murder history
why do we take on a socially retarded young alien with no military experience and give her guns
why is a cripple who can break his body on a harsh turn flying the ship, man
Out of all of these, the "most loyal soldier with military training" is somehow the worst candidate for a spot on the crew?
Ashley is a terrible and nonsensical soldier who has no justification for the way she acts, nor her presence aboard your ship. She has no skills beyond the most basic of Alliance training, is fundamentally incapable of proper tact and diplomacy in a hostile environment and consistently acts on her own initiative in ways unbecoming a soldier.
Just because she has a sad backstory and can quote poetry doesn't make her a good soldier or squadmate. She is a terrible soldier and never learns from her mistakes. There is no reason not to leave her on Virmire, because she offers no skills or perspectives that are not also offered by the other members of your team and crew.
I don't hate Ashley, but she should not be a member of your team and is, in fact, the most expendable. I just cannot justify to myself why Shepard keeps her on the ship after Anderson leaves.
No diplomacy or tact?
Shepard pushes people out windows for not answering his questions. Holds guns to civilians faces. Pushes teenagers around. Punches out reporters. Bangs anything with a hole, despite being in a relationship. Tells his crew off. I could go on!
Point is, Renegade Shepard lacks tact and diplomacy, unless you sprinkle in some Paragon choices. Renegade Shep and Ashley are extremely compatible. You can't really fault her character unless you're faulting Shepard for the same things.
All that said, if you're gauging her worth based upon skillset alone, yes... she's the most expendable. Personally, I sent Kaiden to his death because it would be a lonely journey without Ashley around to call me Skipper.
you could find many such reasons for the other crewmembers
Why the hell do we bring a violent Krogan bountyhunter with a penchant for not following orders onboard
why do we bring a random Turian police officer onboard an alliance military ship
why do we employ an unstable officer with brainproblems with a murder history
why do we take on a socially retarded young alien with no military experience and give her guns
why is a cripple who can break his body on a harsh turn flying the ship, man
Out of all of these, the "most loyal soldier with military training" is somehow the worst candidate for a spot on the crew?
The reason for taking a turian onboard a mission to take down a rogue turan spectre, on a jointly developed human-turian ship should be self evident, aside from the fact he's a cop in one of the best forces in the galaxy, and spectre ought be far more cop then soldier. Ships in space don't have G-forces, and he's the best. Tali, and liaria have important information. Kaidan is an otherwise exemplary officer, whom Sheperd has a history of serving with.
Wrex is hardest to defend, I guess he’s got some history with Saren, and for any situation which needs tactful application of extreme force (read not deployment of militaty level forces) he’s one of the best.
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edited November 2010
Wrex is on the ship to shotgun people in the face.
Wrex is hard to control because he's principled, to some extent. Which makes convincing him to fight the most evil thing to have ever existed not that hard.
If you don't buy that, you can take the reason half the crew from ME2 joined: they're attracted to Shep's aura of strength and badassery.
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Wrex is hard to control because he's principled, to some extent. Which makes convincing him to fight the most evil thing to have ever existed not that hard.
If you don't buy that, you can take the reason half the crew from ME2 joined: they're attracted to Shep's aura of strength and badassery.
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maybe the batarians got that leviathan up and running finally, cant see it being a reaper ship with them getting boarded and i dont think there are any other collector outposts since it would make the end game of me2 pretty moot, unless
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But...if the batarians are dead, who will we hate then? Who will we hate then?!
The vorcha.
And the Quarians who are still pissy about the Geth.
ITS YOUR OWN FAULT YOU IDIOTS.
Batarians can wait.
Those are fighting words sir. Even my most Paragon of Shepards killed every last stinking one of those animals. I'll never forget the blitz, and I'll never forgive them for the death of my son.
Whoops, that might be the Klingons...
Pressly always had the deck when I left the ship. He will be missed.
Ashley was a chief so I figured she was Navy. I always assumed that since Shepard was a Commander the N7 special forces (or whatever) were more Navy SEAL instead of Marine Corps. No big deal. She had a serious issue with respecting the difference between command officer and enlisted which was quickly straightened out.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Great minds think alike.
Ashley, taking the fight to the animals.
Definitely, my top five best characters would have to be, in no particular order.
Wrex.
Garrus.
Ashley.
Tali.
Mordin.
Ashley is not a racist, nor is she space Hitler, she is simply smart enough to question the wisdom of trusting the council and smart enough to question the wisdom of letting alien nationals aboard a human warship.
She is absolutely reasonable, none of her opinions are extreme.
Some people just decided to hate on her.
Just because she has a sad backstory and can quote poetry doesn't make her a good soldier or squadmate. She is a terrible soldier and never learns from her mistakes. There is no reason not to leave her on Virmire, because she offers no skills or perspectives that are not also offered by the other members of your team and crew.
I don't hate Ashley, but she should not be a member of your team and is, in fact, the most expendable. I just cannot justify to myself why Shepard keeps her on the ship after Anderson leaves.
Basically. I never saw her as a hater of aliens in general. Her distrust was reasonable since she was a military minded individual. one of the problems was she acted like a member of your group but she was an enlisted soldier while everyone else was either an officer (Kaiden) or not in the military. Wrex was a superior tank (in my opinion). I never used her, didn't like talking to her and basically found her expendable.
Everyone gets their opinions, and I think some people are not taking the jokes as, well, jokes :P
Why should a freelance Krogan mercenary or an eighteen year old Quarian be a part of the mission? Over half the original Normandy team should probably not have been a part of the mission, but qualifications are besides the fact, I like Ashley so that is why she gets saved and mister headache boy gets nuked.
Edit: And Ashley was a very useful squadmate in my experience, I'd have a team of Ashley and Tali or Ashley and Liara, and we would absolutely wreck everyone's shit.
The argument that Ashley is bad because she didn't have much to offer when she joined the crew is pretty redundant in the face of that.
The only characters who offered anything storyline crucial were Tali(with the super-legit Geth recording) and Liara(by telling you where Ilos is).
Not that I really cared, as long as they can kill shit the more the merrier.
Well you also needed Garrus to get to Fist right?
No, theoretically you don't even need to pick him up. (Wrex will take you there too, though that takes away the awesome 'too many people have died for you to just walk away!' dialog option).
you could find many such reasons for the other crewmembers
Why the hell do we bring a violent Krogan bountyhunter with a penchant for not following orders onboard
why do we bring a random Turian police officer onboard an alliance military ship
why do we employ an unstable officer with brainproblems with a murder history
why do we take on a socially retarded young alien with no military experience and give her guns
why is a cripple who can break his body on a harsh turn flying the ship, man
Out of all of these, the "most loyal soldier with military training" is somehow the worst candidate for a spot on the crew?
No diplomacy or tact?
Shepard pushes people out windows for not answering his questions. Holds guns to civilians faces. Pushes teenagers around. Punches out reporters. Bangs anything with a hole, despite being in a relationship. Tells his crew off. I could go on!
Point is, Renegade Shepard lacks tact and diplomacy, unless you sprinkle in some Paragon choices. Renegade Shep and Ashley are extremely compatible. You can't really fault her character unless you're faulting Shepard for the same things.
All that said, if you're gauging her worth based upon skillset alone, yes... she's the most expendable. Personally, I sent Kaiden to his death because it would be a lonely journey without Ashley around to call me Skipper.
The reason for taking a turian onboard a mission to take down a rogue turan spectre, on a jointly developed human-turian ship should be self evident, aside from the fact he's a cop in one of the best forces in the galaxy, and spectre ought be far more cop then soldier. Ships in space don't have G-forces, and he's the best. Tali, and liaria have important information. Kaidan is an otherwise exemplary officer, whom Sheperd has a history of serving with.
Wrex is hardest to defend, I guess he’s got some history with Saren, and for any situation which needs tactful application of extreme force (read not deployment of militaty level forces) he’s one of the best.
Or to be shotgunned in the face.
Godspeed, Ironsides.
True.
If you don't buy that, you can take the reason half the crew from ME2 joined: they're attracted to Shep's aura of strength and badassery.
And his Saren-like Charisma
Obviously Wrex is there also for other reasons
or to shotgun players in the face if you shotgun him in the face. Seriously if you shotgun him your doing it wrong.