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Dresden Files - Read in order?

UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
edited November 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So I'm starting the Dresden Files and the first book was fun. I'm waiting on the second book but it's going to be a while until I get my hands on it as there are 9 other holds on the book before mine :(. The third book however would be easy to get so I'm wondering if it's necessary to read them in order or if I can skip to the third and then go back to the second later on. Thanks!

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Yes. They all build on each other more so then most book series. These are not stand-alone.

    You should even read the little short stories he published in other collections.

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  • JHunzJHunz Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    Yes. They all build on each other more so then most book series. These are not stand-alone.

    You should even read the little short stories he published in other collections.

    Some of the short stories, however, will spoil things for you if you aren't at the proper point within the series. Be careful.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Definitely read in order.

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  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I'd read them in order. I would leave the short stories until after you've read all the books. They add to the world but aren't earth-shattering or necessary.

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    :( That makes me sad but I guess I don't have much choice. I hope those other 9 people finish up quickly...

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  • AvrahamAvraham Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    You definitely should read them in order! If you're desperate you can skip one and come back to it, and you'll be fine. Each book takes place several months or a year later.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Actually, the first couple of books are pretty standalone. It's not until the 3rd and the 4th that it stops being a detective novel with magic on the side and starts becoming a fantasy series set in modern day Chicago.

    If you skip 2 and go straight to 3 then you won't miss that much. From what I remember there are no important characters or events introduced that aren't adequately explained in book 3.

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  • Z0reZ0re Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Two was the absolute low point of the series anyways, the books get exponentially better afterwards.

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  • OdjnOdjn Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I would read the series first, then get Side Jobs and read all the short stories.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    What is the order? :<

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  • OdjnOdjn Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Storm Front
    2 Fool Moon
    3 Grave Peril
    4 Summer Knight
    5 Death Masks
    6 Blood Rites
    7 Dead Beat
    8 Proven Guilty
    9 White Night
    10 Small Favor
    11 Turn Coat
    12 Changes 2010
    13 Ghost Story 2011

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  • JHunzJHunz Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Odjn wrote: »
    Prequel Restoration of Faith (SS)
    1 Storm Front
    2 Fool Moon
    3 Grave Peril
    4 Summer Knight
    5 Death Masks
    6 Blood Rites
    7 Dead Beat
    8 Proven Guilty
    9 White Night
    9.5 Backup (novelette)
    10 Small Favor
    11 Turn Coat
    12 Changes 2010
    12.5 Aftermath (novelette, in Side Jobs
    13 Ghost Story 2011
    The story Restoration of Faith is a prequel.
    The novelette Backup shouldn't be read until after White Night.
    The novelette Aftermath (in Side Jobs) shouldn't be read until after Changes.
    I think The Warrior is the one that shouldn't be read until after Small Favor, but I can't remember for sure.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I'd like to note that if you're really jonesing for Dresden, you can skip a few books. I started reading the series at Dead Beat, and I don't feel that I lost anything. There are the occasional references and metaplot growth(for gods sake don't read Small Favor or anything past it until you've read the majority of the other books,) but especially in the early books you can read one and skip another without losing anything too huge.

    And skipping Book 2 to Book 3 is hardly a crime. I generally recommend people start with Grave Peril anyway.

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Oh ok great! Grave Peril is on its way over to my library as we speak...

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  • reddogreddog The Mountain Brooklyn, NYRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I almost quit the series on the second book. I just couldn't get into the story but i'm glad I didn't. Definitely read them in order though. I agree that you could skip the second one and really not miss a beat.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Yeah... I'd forgotten how mediocre the series was at the beginning. I didn't really even start to like it until book 4.

    Forget what I said... just read from 3 on. Although doesn't book 2 introduce
    the werewolves?
    because I think they are in like, every single book after that.

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  • reddogreddog The Mountain Brooklyn, NYRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    Yeah... I'd forgotten how mediocre the series was at the beginning. I didn't really even start to like it until book 4.

    Forget what I said... just read from 3 on. Although doesn't book 2 introduce
    the werewolves?
    because I think they are in like, every single book after that.

    you are correct.

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    ... is that a huge spoiler?

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Underdog wrote: »
    ... is that a huge spoiler?

    Not really. But better safe then sorry. Book 2 introduces some characters that appear in pretty much every book from that point on. But I mean, it's your call how important that is to you.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    As someone who got into the series in the past year, I do suggest reading through in order. The novels are self contained and self referential enough that you can probably piece things together without much trouble (as I've bitched about in at least 2 threads, a not insignificant page count per book is spent describing characters, situations, locations, items and whatnot each time they first show up in a book), but as noted by others there's enough of an ongoing arc that later books will essentially spoiler how some things turn out in their predecessors.

    Granted, there are a dozen books, obviously Harry survives, but if 'how' that's accomplished is important to you, I wouldn't jump around the series personally.

    I believe the OP mentions getting them from a library, but if funding isn't a terribly big issue, you can get the first three books as a box set for like $25. Amazon.ca doesn't seem to have it in stock, but indigo.ca does, and I recall seeing them sitting around in random Indigo/Chapters bookstores as well.

    I agree with other posters that consistantly following the order isn't nearly as important with the first handful of books, but would recomend going in order all the same.

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  • ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    reddog wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Yeah... I'd forgotten how mediocre the series was at the beginning. I didn't really even start to like it until book 4.

    Forget what I said... just read from 3 on. Although doesn't book 2 introduce
    the werewolves?
    because I think they are in like, every single book after that.

    you are correct.

    Plus, 2 has
    the beginning of the romance between Dresden and Susan. And is literally the jumping off point for that. Which is the reason/leadup to alot of important stuff later in the series.


    And that is a big spoiler. Plus it just has some damn cool bad guys in it if you like traditional horror movie monsters.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Read 'em in order. It's really the only way you'll be able to pick up on all the little nuances and references to past things, continuing story lines, etc...

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Because I'm feeling a bit ambitious this morning, here is the order of the entire series, including the short stories found in "Side Jobs" (marked with an asterisk):

    *A Restoration of Faith
    Welcome to the Jungle (Graphic Novel)
    Storm Front
    Fool Moon
    Grave Peril
    Summer Knight
    Death Masks
    *Vignette
    Blood Rites
    Dead Beat
    *Something Borrowed
    Proven Guilty
    White Night
    *It's My Birthday, Too
    *Heorot
    Small Favor
    *Day Off
    *Backup
    *The Warrior
    *Last Call
    Turn Coat
    *Love Hurts
    Changes
    *Aftermath
    Ghost Story (April 2011)

    To be honest, I'd planned on pulling together this list at some point anyway. I figure I'll probably start reading through the series again in the coming weeks, at a fairly leisurely pace so I'm done around the time Ghost Story comes out. Figuring out the order the stories should technically come in might be up for a bit of debate. It's My Birthday, Too and Heorot were easy; the former is in February and the latter is in October. I'll have to re-read them for clues, but Day Off and Backup weren't as immediately obvious at a glance. The Warrior is easily noted as taking place in the summer, but I'm not sure how the other two fit around it yet. Side Jobs does outright note that The Warrior comes before Last Call, so at least those two are correct.

    Also, while they're pretty expensive, the two books that are out for the Dresden Files' RPG are interesting, especially "Our World", which seems to be chalk full of character information, and reading it has given me a sense of some things that I suspect will be dealt with in the coming books. The information it contains seems to be accurate up to and including Small Favor (short stories and all), as there are notable changes to the setting/characters that aren't referenced from Turn Coat and beyond.

    Late edit: of note, I believe there may be another short story or three out there. Butcher commented that there was material that didn't make it into Side Jobs, so we'll eventually get Side Jobs 2 for that very reason. Also, I think there's technically another short story (or multiples) in the RPG books, there's at least one involving Harry speaking to a group of Wardens at the start of Our World, but I'm not sure if it counts per se.

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