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The Out-Dated Dragon Age 2 Thread [Please post in new thread!]

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I will say this about the City Elf origin -- Its way better if your character is female. The subject matter of this particular origin is such that a woman experiencing it is way more compelling than if it happens to a man.

    The other origins it doesn't really matter. You can pick either warrior or rogue for any of them.

    If you pick Mage, you get the Mage origin story no matter what race you are. Mages always get the mage origin. There's no way around it.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Z0re wrote: »
    -Dexterity is useful for Tanks over anything else followed by strength

    This is completely untrue. Dexterity is worthless for a tank past the 26 it takes to max out your weapon and shield talents. Defense itself is a pretty shitty stat since attack's growth outpaces defense pretty universally and warrior weapons don't benefit from the stat. You're better off maximizing your tank's armor and mitigating as much damage as possible rather than trying to avoid it. High strength will let you wear heavier armor while increasing your damage and not having high dex won't hurt at all.

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I dig how mages are looked upon like freaks and could be possibly demonically possessed and flip out at anytime in the Dragon Age world.

    Just different from the usual bow and scraping towards mages that goes on in the fantasy genre.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So I have a question:

    Has anyone in the history of ever ever used the qunari companion? He's so insignificant to me I can't even remember his name. There's just so many more interesting characters than him.

    I mean, melee spots are pretty limited in my parties anyway. Hell, I typically don't even use Oghren even though he's totally awesome, simply because there's no room for him in the party.

    I can't even fathom why anyone would willingly take the boring old qunari guy with them.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    So I have a question:

    Has anyone in the history of ever ever used the qunari companion? He's so insignificant to me I can't even remember his name. There's just so many more interesting characters than him.

    I mean, melee spots are pretty limited in my parties anyway. Hell, I typically don't even use Oghren even though he's totally awesome, simply because there's no room for him in the party.

    I can't even fathom why anyone would willingly take the boring old qunari guy with them.

    He's not really boring, that's why. He even has a sense of humor and makes jokes with some pretty deadpan delivery.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dashui wrote: »
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    im fairly sure this is old concept art from dragon age way back when, i remember that bridge being part of a lot of early builds/concepts of the game with that canyon and it never ended up in origins.

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  • Z0reZ0re Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    So I have a question:

    Has anyone in the history of ever ever used the qunari companion? He's so insignificant to me I can't even remember his name. There's just so many more interesting characters than him.

    I mean, melee spots are pretty limited in my parties anyway. Hell, I typically don't even use Oghren even though he's totally awesome, simply because there's no room for him in the party.

    I can't even fathom why anyone would willingly take the boring old qunari guy with them.

    What are you talking about? Sten is one of the better written companions, and unlike some *coughMorrigancough*, if you disagree with him you can tell him to shut the hell up and he respects you for it. Not to mention he actually has a fairly interesting backstory and personality, especially his exchanges with Morrigan.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dashui wrote: »
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    im fairly sure this is old concept art from dragon age way back when, i remember that bridge being part of a lot of early builds/concepts of the game with that canyon and it never ended up in origins.

    It's DA2 concept art.

    Given the huge battle taking place under the bridge in the early prototype builds of the first game, it could have easily been a proto-Ostagar. And anyway, you can see roads like that all over DAO. they're the imperial highways the Tevinter Imperium built. It would make sense that they wouldn't just build them in Ferelden.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hmm. I dunno. Just right from the get-go I have never been interested in him. I mean, Oghren who fills the same party role just grips me right away as being interesting.

    And I typically want a rogue in my party which means 9 out of 10 times I'll have either Leliana or Zevran in my party anyway and I don't have a warrior at all.

    Wynne makes it into every party cause she's the healer. Morrigan has a high chance of making it too, since mages are so OP. That leaves room for a tank and my main character and that's it. There's just no room for a DPS warrior.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Hmm. I dunno. Just right from the get-go I have never been interested in him. I mean, Oghren who fills the same party role just grips me right away as being interesting.

    And I typically want a rogue in my party which means 9 out of 10 times I'll have either Leliana or Zevran in my party anyway and I don't have a warrior at all.

    Wynne makes it into every party cause she's the healer. Morrigan has a high chance of making it too, since mages are so OP. That leaves room for a tank and my main character and that's it. There's just no room for a DPS warrior.

    That's great, but he's still not a boring character. I'm sure he'd apologize for not being a wacky drunk dwarf stereotype if he could.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Pancake wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »
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    im fairly sure this is old concept art from dragon age way back when, i remember that bridge being part of a lot of early builds/concepts of the game with that canyon and it never ended up in origins.

    It's DA2 concept art.

    Given the huge battle taking place under the bridge in the early prototype builds of the first game, it could have easily been a proto-Ostagar. And anyway, you can see roads like that all over DAO. they're the imperial highways the Tevinter Imperium built. It would make sense that they wouldn't just build them in Ferelden.

    yeah im wrong, it looked similar to these http://www.gamoholic.net/index.php/Stiri/PC/Dragon-Age-noi-info-pe-9-iulie.html at least in my head it did, looking at these now thats very much proto-ostagar

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The thing with Sten is that you have to work at him to get anything from him.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Z0re wrote: »
    General tips though

    -Mages are ez-mode. You can recruit 2 and be one yourself if you choose to make the game a cakewalk
    -Constitution is useless, never put points into it
    -Dexterity is useful for Tanks over anything else followed by strength
    -Auto-attack is almost always more DPS than any activated abilities

    Alright, cool, thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to go City Elf Female then, even if they are poor.

    If auto attack is superior, I suppose all the passive boosts, or status attacks are what I want to go? Probably going to go two hander, and put everything into dexterity/strength with weighing towards the latter. Though is persuasion related to anything you need to put points into/worth it?

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    The thing with Sten is that you have to work at him to get anything from him.

    They thing with Sten is that he has THE BEST dialogue with Morrigan. It is amazing.

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  • Transdimensional WhaleTransdimensional Whale Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You don't have to bring him around all the time to get his dialog. Personally, I just brought the characters that I felt served me best into the dungeons and got the character conversations in cities while I'm buying junk. Most of the characterization will be from campfire conversations anyway so it's not like you lose anything by not using the party members that suck at fighting all the time.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You don't have to bring him around all the time to get his dialog. Personally, I just brought the characters that I felt served me best into the dungeons and got the character conversations in cities while I'm buying junk. Most of the characterization will be from campfire conversations anyway so it's not like you lose anything by not using the party members that suck at fighting all the time.
    I don't know. Sten in particular doesn't really like conversation, and his campfire conversations don't always reflect his core personality as much as the persona he assumes when he finds you in equal parts sort of frustrating and sort of amusing. Once I started taking him with me on quests, I noticed that he's much more likely to express his opinions in an honest and straightforward manner if it's relevant to the situation. I actually liked having him around a lot, really. It's a shame he's so worthless as a party member in combat.
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    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Hmm. I dunno. Just right from the get-go I have never been interested in him. I mean, Oghren who fills the same party role just grips me right away as being interesting.

    And I typically want a rogue in my party which means 9 out of 10 times I'll have either Leliana or Zevran in my party anyway and I don't have a warrior at all.

    Wynne makes it into every party cause she's the healer. Morrigan has a high chance of making it too, since mages are so OP. That leaves room for a tank and my main character and that's it. There's just no room for a DPS warrior.

    That's great, but he's still not a boring character. I'm sure he'd apologize for not being a wacky drunk dwarf stereotype if he could.
    "I am sorry that I am neither a fool nor a clown, both of which your idiotic culture seems to pride."

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  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yes well my culture doesn't have me kill 8 people (including children) who were just trying to help.

    ...Why did I let you out of that cage again?

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  • rndmherorndmhero Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So stupid question about Awakening. If I want to import my character from Origins, does that mean I'm required to
    sleep with Morrigan before killing the Archdemon
    ?

    I don't really like that choice of endings, but I can't see how the import would work without it.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Nope. You can do awakenings with any ending, despite how little sense it might make

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Nope. You can do awakenings with any ending, despite how little sense it might make
    I thought if you imported a previously dead Warden, it assumed you did the ritual with Morrigan?

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Pancake wrote: »
    That's great, but he's still not a boring character. I'm sure he'd apologize for not being a wacky drunk dwarf stereotype if he could.

    hey hey now, Oghren's pretty funny in Awakening

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Pancake wrote: »
    That's great, but he's still not a boring character. I'm sure he'd apologize for not being a wacky drunk dwarf stereotype if he could.

    hey hey now, Oghren's pretty funny in Awakening
    I like Oghren in general, but he kind of bothered me in Awakening. He went from being sort of drunkenly perverted to Flanderly so.

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Nope. You can do awakenings with any ending, despite how little sense it might make
    I thought if you imported a previously dead Warden, it assumed you did the ritual with Morrigan?

    In response to the spoiler: Yep. It isn't magic, it is just effectively changing the choice you made at the end of the game.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Shen wrote: »
    Yes well my culture doesn't have me kill 8 people (including children) who were just trying to help.

    ...Why did I let you out of that cage again?

    His culture doesn't either...:?

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Alright guys, so I am literally 2 trophies away from my platinum trophy on this game. I'm missing Master Warden and Blight-Queller.

    I've done a ton of research online trying to figure out why I'm not getting these achievements and no matter what method I try, nothing is seeming to work. Help!

    The most common solution I've found online seems to be that that you can take a mage into the Elven Alienage and farm kills over and over with AoE spells. Once you've cleared them out, you save your game to a different slot and then reload into the Alienage.

    I've tried this method a bunch. I've probably sunk 2 hours into this, and Master Warden still hasn't popped up, and my mage is definitely the one getting all the kills.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You might be bugged. I was able to easily get all the darkspawn killing stuff in my first run alone, after 2 playthoughs you should have easily hit it.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah. I got both those just playing through the game.

    Though you fight tons of darkspawn in the deep roads and during the end game.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Like four complete playthroughs and I haven't gotten Blight-Queller either

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yes, I know you fight tons of darkspawn in the deep roads and et cetera. My main character alone probably has close to 3000 darkspawn kills by now.

    I didn't get Master Warden on my 2nd play-through either which was a whole new game I started very recently.

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The pre-order thing still has to be done before January 11 right? To get that signed w/e thing that's better than a regular pre order.

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    So I have a question:

    Has anyone in the history of ever ever used the qunari companion? He's so insignificant to me I can't even remember his name. There's just so many more interesting characters than him.

    I mean, melee spots are pretty limited in my parties anyway. Hell, I typically don't even use Oghren even though he's totally awesome, simply because there's no room for him in the party.

    I can't even fathom why anyone would willingly take the boring old qunari guy with them.

    I'm just going to reiterate that Sten is one of the best fucking companions in the game.

    Seriously, if you aren't talking to him all the time, you are missing out on some great stuff. Maybe the best stuff.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited January 2011
    Sten is far and away my favourite character in the game.

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  • JauntyJaunty Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Oh my god
    I have been calling him Stan all this time

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Sten isn't even his name. It's a rank, or social standing. Sten secrets.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    "In the time it would take you to pronounce one letter of my true name, a million comosies would flare into existance and sink into eternal night." ~ Sten









    .... not really, but it'd be a great reference. :p

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Sten's outlook is more alien than most aliens in Mass Effect.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    So I have a question:

    Has anyone in the history of ever ever used the qunari companion? He's so insignificant to me I can't even remember his name. There's just so many more interesting characters than him.

    I mean, melee spots are pretty limited in my parties anyway. Hell, I typically don't even use Oghren even though he's totally awesome, simply because there's no room for him in the party.

    I can't even fathom why anyone would willingly take the boring old qunari guy with them.

    Sten is great, I almost always use him. He has some absolutely hilarious dialog if you pair him with Leliana. I thought he was just a boring barbarian-type at first too, but if you bother to bring him along and talk to him, it's well worth it.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Not just party banter, but Sten has some of the best interjections in the world, bar none. For example, take him to the docks at Lake Calenhad the first time you go there.

    Sten actually has the most extensive camp dialogue available, you just have to get him to open up. Remember, he was sent on a mission to scout the land, so it makes sense that the more he sees, the more he has to say, but if you simply keep him at camp, he won't have observed anything thereby limiting what he might be willing to discuss. Sten is unique in that he gains more topics to talk about in camp when he's made an observation at certain points in the world. Some of these places are...

    * When exiting the Redcliffe Chantry for the first time.
    * When entering the Circle Tower for the first time.

    You can tell you've 'unlocked' these when he makes a comment, such as, "So this is where humans get their wisdom?" or "So this is the prison you keep your mages?" There's another one about kids, but I can't remember where it's triggered.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Sten's outlook is more alien than most aliens in Mass Effect.
    This is really obvious when you play a female Warden. The conversation just won't stop going in circles.

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  • Transdimensional WhaleTransdimensional Whale Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    That's interesting. I did not realize that at all and now I'm curious about what more he would have to say. I just wish he wasn't so awful at fighting. :(

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