Speaking of the midi adapter, what is the volume slider all about? I just noticed the D K G on the adapter, guess I lucked out and it's always been in the G mode
That slider is for the sensitivity of a drum instrument. It's to increase or decrease the amount of force required to hit the drum pads for the game to register hits.
Bartholamue on
Steam- SteveBartz Xbox Live- SteveBartz PSN Name- SteveBartz
Just played the flaming lips song on pro guitar for the first time. Really, really like it. It changes up the strumming pattern a few times, has a Barr in there, and a little used D. I was actually trying to figure out what I was doing for the longest time fingering a regular D.
And I'm finally used to doing a normal G chord again. I really like the sound of pinky and ring both on 3, and keeping 5 open was throwing me off.
Barr chords have always been a pain, and they're one reason I've always disliked fenders. Something about their neck. But thanks to the lessons and me sticking with it (much of it could be 30 year patience vs 15-19 year old youth and impatience) but I'm actually getting them down including the changes that are a pain in the ass! Ie anything with middle ring and pinky on the same fret to a basic major Barr.
For what it's worth, Keldon is back up using the new API. And apparently even showing places for sub-1% scores. However, the star tracking part is still broken. It actually shows me as having five stars for Visions and I know that can't be true.
I have one #1 guitar score and I know that's true because I just got it the other night. The scores are accurate so far as they are 'current'. It's the stars that are definitely broken.
Truth be told, I think Last Dance is easier. If you can consistently hit those barre chords.
I like it a bit more too. :P
My hand feels like a lObster after that damn last dance! Good practice though, gonna have to start playing it randomly. I hate those Barr chords with 3 fingers on the same fret, I have to take certain parts of the song off to rest. Good practice though, they're a necessary evil to learn.
Anyone else have to sometime turn their guitar on and off to get it recognize strums? It's recognize fingerboard locations, although it's not precise, and registers no strums. I have to turn everything off/back on.
So there was this thing where RBN tracks weren't updating to Xbox.com. I figured I'd wait and see what happened with the situation before diving into new RBN updates.
Found out that what's going on is HMX is now preventing RBN purchases via Xbox.com. All new RBN songs can only be purchased in-game.
Frankly, that's enough to make me just give up posting the new songs. There are only a handful right now, but the last thing I want to do is manually search using the slow and poorly designed in-game interface a list of songs that one week when they release 40 songs.
*EDIT*
decided to go in and learn I love rock and roll, start with an easy solo. I'm at part 3 in training where the solo starts right after the 767. You're playing on 9, 11 and 12. I'm trying to figure out of this is a form of a scale or if I should Bare the formation (barring 9, pinky on 12 and moving ring for the 9). How should I be moving? /Edit**
Has HMX talked about how they came up with the guitar charting? Extensive live video watching, had multiple guitarist tab down what they came up with by ear, or went to the actual artists? Im kinda curious, as something like blink's dammit is totally different than the way I learned it (same notes and easier, just different fingerings) yet the game is right as somebody pointed out to me in a live performance.
While looking for some tabs for songs I had been learning in game (say last dance) were very wrong if the game is right (over simplified said it was I think A5 , D5, E5? Or something like that. Just kinda curious how they came up with the charting.
Been working on my Barr chords, time to see if I can play last dance smoothly/without pain and needing a break.
Why not just get the info from here and post when it updates? Unless it's your site... :P
Notice how the four 'new' songs since Blue (Da Ba Bee) have no prices? That's info I have to get directly from the game now. Also, what used to be error420.com got its information from the xbox.com marketplace. See the 'Recent Posts' section that asks why a new song wasn't showing up?
All that means is I can post a list of the new songs available, but to get any further information, I have to dig it up manually and it's just not convenient.
New Releases 3/28/11
28 Days - Mafia Track Suit
Andromeda - Bluefusion
Happy People - Big Kenny
New Releases 3/23/11
Airbrushed - Anamanaguchi
New releases 3/15/11
Blue (Da Ba Dee) - Eiffel 65
I can post a list as they appear, but I'm not interested in manually searching for the details. I only did it before because it was usually just a glitch. Now it's procedure.
So finally pushing through Expert on drums (about halfway through the 60ish Solid songs I have)
Have to admit the bass pedal has made me panic a few times on Expert. Most of the songs aren't much of a step up in that reguard but then every once in awhile I run across something like Yoshimi where it's pedal like whoa. There was one other one that was even worse but the name escapes me at the moment.
They've been pretty awesome for practice though. Playing through a "regular" song after playing through Yoshimi and the like is a breeze.
Happy - There are several techniques you can look up on youtube (just search for Bass Pedal techniques) to help. Some of the stuff from The Who and 25 or 6 to 4 will murder your leg at first regardless unless you already have a tremendous amount of stamina built up.
I'm almost positive that's the one. I actually thought I was going to burn my life bar all the way down the first time I played it but I managed to relax and made it through ending with a 89% on the song which had me smiling from ear to ear (as I took a break to walk off the death of muscle control in my leg that is). I've been doing those two in particular as practice after a warmup song or two and it's really been helping with the stamina I think. I'm at the point where I can power through them back to back and while by the end my leg is still pretty worn out it hasn't ceased functioning entirely.
Just the increase in stamina going through Hard has been extremely noticable though. I can go back and play songs that used to kill me on Hard in Expert and even with more pedal it's not at all exhausting. I imagine much of this is due to me actually looking into some techniques out of necessity though :P
The biggest thing I'm working on now is being able to get consistent on hitting multiple quick kicks when they get thrown in and even that's been getting noticably better after only a few days.
HappylilElf on
0
TrynantManiac BrawlerRank 20.100 and full WildRegistered Userregular
edited April 2011
Worst bass pedal moments for me aside from metal songs with crazy double kicks/playing what would normally double bass with one foot, would be "Go With the Flow" in RB1 (along with the DLC "Sick, Sick, Sick" for that matter) and Painkiller (arguably double bass on one foot). Basically fast songs in 4/4 time with three bass notes and then a snare hit. Those tend to be the worst on my foot.
Quick double hits and the like are something that just take a ton of practice. For me it was one of the last skills I learned for bass pedal playing in Rock Band (though I still need to peg really fast alternating snare-bass patterns). One trick for double hits is to time the first bass note early and then the next bass note late.
Does anyone here do that heel-toe (or is it toe-heel) technique that pegs quick double hits? I haven't figured out how that works yet.
...goddamn fucking Visions is in my playlist again.
Sorry for potential dead horse beating, but what's the driving reason for hating this song? Is it the death metal, the charts, or something else I'm missing? Because I actually enjoy playing "Visions" on drums when I have the stamina. Guitar isn't bad either. Only thing I can see it being stupid for is vocals, but bad vocals can be accredited to a lot of songs.
Of course, this is coming from someone who actually likes "Kool Thing" and listens to mostly indie rock and metal.
EDIT: Related to loving metal, I wish RBN's version of Meshuggah's "Bleed" came with the double bass and the ghost snares. It changes the song so much, even moreso than other metal songs with double bass. Here's what "Bleed" looks like with no holding back on charting:
It depends on the person, but pretty much it's the mass of noise that is the sound of the song coupled with charts that are 'hard for hard's sake'. It is the single most reviled song in the history of HMX made games and considering the reactions that Made in Mexico used to get, that's something.
On the whole, it's a terrible representative of it's sub-genre and whilst many touted it as 'adding a new sound to people's consciousness', HMX did nothing for nine months about releasing more of that type of music.
By now, posting disgust about the song is nearly on par with 'zinging' Microsoft by using a dollar sign.
If you zero lighter songs do they not show up in random at all? I haven't done a whole lot of random as I've been just switching between pushing Pro Guitar, Expert Drums and takign breaks in between to finish off my library on Expert so everything I've been playing has been prety deliberate.
I ask because I'm gonna be at a friends house this playing this weekend and there's a lot of songs I've picked up (generally via packs) that I honestly don't care much for and I know they'll feel the same way about many of them. I suppose the alternative is to just skip random and go for cerating a bunch of playlists or something.
*edit*
Ok my legs just started aching just from watching that video :P
HappylilElf on
0
TrynantManiac BrawlerRank 20.100 and full WildRegistered Userregular
edited April 2011
I find it ironic that the chart for "Visions" is considered "hard for hard's sake" when the song is undercharted on all instruments (except vocals...arguably).
Also, what defines good death metal versus bad death metal anyways? Is there any example of some metal in rock band that's as atonal as "Visions," but doesn't "suck?"
Ok my legs just started aching just from watching that video :P
The worst (best?) part is that the drummer is essentially playing a different rhythm on each limb. And that the song changes from one complex rhythm to another to another to another. Playing that song with the chart presented would require ambidexterity beyond belief. Or sixth months of training
Because Visions is bullshit. And sounds like it's being played on a RB1 drumset. Like, they pounded on a RB1 drumset, recorded that, and that's the drum part.
Also one lighter songs will never be chosen for random. Zero lighter songs = 3 lighter songs
Because Visions is bullshit. And sounds like it's being played on a RB1 drumset. Like, they pounded on a RB1 drumset, recorded that, and that's the drum part.
Also one lighter songs will never be chosen for random. Zero lighter songs = 3 lighter songs
Good to know. Gonna have to rethink my ratings system and sit down and go through my library.
HappylilElf on
0
NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
edited April 2011
Yeah, 1=Never shows up at all, 2=slim chance it'll show up in a random appropriate playlist, 3=normal chance (and default 0 setting), 4=more likely to show up in a random playlist, 5=will ALWAYS show up in a playlist.
Edit: the reason 0=3 is so that when you first start playing, songs that you haven't rated have a chance to be played so that you can rate them.
Nocren on
0
JC of DII think we're fucked up.I know I am.Registered Userregular
edited April 2011
Whoa, whoa, whoa - 5 Lighter songs won't ALWAYS show up in a playlist.
A dev explained it at one point and someone quoted it here. The jist of it is this: think of a "random setlist" being made by pulling chips out of a bag, each chip having a song name written on it.
1 Lighter will put 0 chips of that song into the bag, 2 lighters=1 chip, 3/Unrated=2 chips, 4=3, 5=4.
So while, logically, 5 lighters increase the chance over any other number, it's not a guarantee.
Whoa, whoa, whoa - 5 Lighter songs won't ALWAYS show up in a playlist.
A dev explained it at one point and someone quoted it here. The jist of it is this: think of a "random setlist" being made by pulling chips out of a bag, each chip having a song name written on it.
1 Lighter will put 0 chips of that song into the bag, 2 lighters=1 chip, 3/Unrated=2 chips, 4=3, 5=4.
So while, logically, 5 lighters increase the chance over any other number, it's not a guarantee.
Sort of.
Each rating above one increases the likelihood, but it's multiplied by the number of songs per rating level.
5 = 3
4 = 2.5
3 = 2
2 = 1.5
1 = 0
0 = 2
Multiply those numbers by how many songs in each category.
10 = 30
20 = 50
50 = 100
20 = 30
10 = 0
10 = 20
That's the likely hood of each song showing up. The more you have rated in a particular category, the more likely songs from that category show up. Most people tend to put songs in the three lighter range so that's where most of the songs that show up will come from.
It's also why, in my case, as the number of songs I've yet to play decreases, the harder it is for any of them to show up as long as I continue to play random setlists.
It's a terribly flawed system since it's only as good as the user ratings and even then becomes weighted more towards the largest category. I've seen some people who only rate everything with five lighters out of some compulsive need to have everything look 'balanced'. The only thing that it does well is eliminate one lighter songs from showing up randomly.
The caveat to one lighter songs is if you play the road challenges and there aren't enough total songs to chose from a particular category, then the lighter rating is ignored to properly fill out the set.
As far as the chip system goes, I'd never heard of it like that, but that's probably a factor as well. But as a lottery system, it's still pretty crap if you don't rate enough songs with five lighters.
(And then, after I type all this, fucking server busy! Thank god for back buttons...)
Whups sorry I brought it up guys, didn't know it was so reviled. Most all the songs I have are the default RB2 and 3 playlists so I figured there was a lot of stuff of that sort if people wanted it, which I really don't.
I'll just one-dot rank it and move on, same as the others I don't like.
What blew my mind was finding out the singer in that song is a woman.
Posts
That's the quote of win right there.
Get your fucking shit together and figure out how to once again be able charge my debit card you've already charged dozens of times in the past.
Thanks.
APRIL FOOLS!!!
I have 549 Rock Band Drum and 305 Pro Drum FC's
REFS REFS REFS REFS REFS REFS REFS REFS
That slider is for the sensitivity of a drum instrument. It's to increase or decrease the amount of force required to hit the drum pads for the game to register hits.
Finally a song that can make both my wrists hurt.
And I'm finally used to doing a normal G chord again. I really like the sound of pinky and ring both on 3, and keeping 5 open was throwing me off.
Barr chords have always been a pain, and they're one reason I've always disliked fenders. Something about their neck. But thanks to the lessons and me sticking with it (much of it could be 30 year patience vs 15-19 year old youth and impatience) but I'm actually getting them down including the changes that are a pain in the ass! Ie anything with middle ring and pinky on the same fret to a basic major Barr.
My calluses are almost back
My hand feels like a lObster after that damn last dance! Good practice though, gonna have to start playing it randomly. I hate those Barr chords with 3 fingers on the same fret, I have to take certain parts of the song off to rest. Good practice though, they're a necessary evil to learn.
Anyone else have to sometime turn their guitar on and off to get it recognize strums? It's recognize fingerboard locations, although it's not precise, and registers no strums. I have to turn everything off/back on.
http://rbnreleases.com/
Why not just get the info from here and post when it updates? Unless it's your site... :P
decided to go in and learn I love rock and roll, start with an easy solo. I'm at part 3 in training where the solo starts right after the 767. You're playing on 9, 11 and 12. I'm trying to figure out of this is a form of a scale or if I should Bare the formation (barring 9, pinky on 12 and moving ring for the 9). How should I be moving? /Edit**
Has HMX talked about how they came up with the guitar charting? Extensive live video watching, had multiple guitarist tab down what they came up with by ear, or went to the actual artists? Im kinda curious, as something like blink's dammit is totally different than the way I learned it (same notes and easier, just different fingerings) yet the game is right as somebody pointed out to me in a live performance.
While looking for some tabs for songs I had been learning in game (say last dance) were very wrong if the game is right (over simplified said it was I think A5 , D5, E5? Or something like that. Just kinda curious how they came up with the charting.
Been working on my Barr chords, time to see if I can play last dance smoothly/without pain and needing a break.
streamin' new dlc.
Notice how the four 'new' songs since Blue (Da Ba Bee) have no prices? That's info I have to get directly from the game now. Also, what used to be error420.com got its information from the xbox.com marketplace. See the 'Recent Posts' section that asks why a new song wasn't showing up?
All that means is I can post a list of the new songs available, but to get any further information, I have to dig it up manually and it's just not convenient.
I can post a list as they appear, but I'm not interested in manually searching for the details. I only did it before because it was usually just a glitch. Now it's procedure.
Have to admit the bass pedal has made me panic a few times on Expert. Most of the songs aren't much of a step up in that reguard but then every once in awhile I run across something like Yoshimi where it's pedal like whoa. There was one other one that was even worse but the name escapes me at the moment.
They've been pretty awesome for practice though. Playing through a "regular" song after playing through Yoshimi and the like is a breeze.
Happy - There are several techniques you can look up on youtube (just search for Bass Pedal techniques) to help. Some of the stuff from The Who and 25 or 6 to 4 will murder your leg at first regardless unless you already have a tremendous amount of stamina built up.
Just keep at it.
EDIT: Did I miss this thread talking about it?
Just the increase in stamina going through Hard has been extremely noticable though. I can go back and play songs that used to kill me on Hard in Expert and even with more pedal it's not at all exhausting. I imagine much of this is due to me actually looking into some techniques out of necessity though :P
The biggest thing I'm working on now is being able to get consistent on hitting multiple quick kicks when they get thrown in and even that's been getting noticably better after only a few days.
Quick double hits and the like are something that just take a ton of practice. For me it was one of the last skills I learned for bass pedal playing in Rock Band (though I still need to peg really fast alternating snare-bass patterns). One trick for double hits is to time the first bass note early and then the next bass note late.
Does anyone here do that heel-toe (or is it toe-heel) technique that pegs quick double hits? I haven't figured out how that works yet.
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
Blog, Playing Rules; Let's Play Demon's Souls; My Backlog
I'll tell you why not, goddamn fucking Visions is in my playlist again.
They did an update from two months ago and these are the current numbers. (360,PS3,Wii)
I'm actually a bit surprised that drums don't have a higher percentage.
*Numbers displayed are unique scores registered.
Sorry for potential dead horse beating, but what's the driving reason for hating this song? Is it the death metal, the charts, or something else I'm missing? Because I actually enjoy playing "Visions" on drums when I have the stamina. Guitar isn't bad either. Only thing I can see it being stupid for is vocals, but bad vocals can be accredited to a lot of songs.
Of course, this is coming from someone who actually likes "Kool Thing" and listens to mostly indie rock and metal.
EDIT: Related to loving metal, I wish RBN's version of Meshuggah's "Bleed" came with the double bass and the ghost snares. It changes the song so much, even moreso than other metal songs with double bass. Here's what "Bleed" looks like with no holding back on charting:
Yeesh
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
Blog, Playing Rules; Let's Play Demon's Souls; My Backlog
one lighter that sucker and it shouldn't appear again
On the whole, it's a terrible representative of it's sub-genre and whilst many touted it as 'adding a new sound to people's consciousness', HMX did nothing for nine months about releasing more of that type of music.
By now, posting disgust about the song is nearly on par with 'zinging' Microsoft by using a dollar sign.
I ask because I'm gonna be at a friends house this playing this weekend and there's a lot of songs I've picked up (generally via packs) that I honestly don't care much for and I know they'll feel the same way about many of them. I suppose the alternative is to just skip random and go for cerating a bunch of playlists or something.
*edit*
Ok my legs just started aching just from watching that video :P
Also, what defines good death metal versus bad death metal anyways? Is there any example of some metal in rock band that's as atonal as "Visions," but doesn't "suck?"
The worst (best?) part is that the drummer is essentially playing a different rhythm on each limb. And that the song changes from one complex rhythm to another to another to another. Playing that song with the chart presented would require ambidexterity beyond belief. Or sixth months of training
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
Blog, Playing Rules; Let's Play Demon's Souls; My Backlog
Also one lighter songs will never be chosen for random. Zero lighter songs = 3 lighter songs
Good to know. Gonna have to rethink my ratings system and sit down and go through my library.
Edit: the reason 0=3 is so that when you first start playing, songs that you haven't rated have a chance to be played so that you can rate them.
A dev explained it at one point and someone quoted it here. The jist of it is this: think of a "random setlist" being made by pulling chips out of a bag, each chip having a song name written on it.
1 Lighter will put 0 chips of that song into the bag, 2 lighters=1 chip, 3/Unrated=2 chips, 4=3, 5=4.
So while, logically, 5 lighters increase the chance over any other number, it's not a guarantee.
I know what to do for next Super Bowl Sunday then
I tried to see if any of John Drake's rimshots from the Giant Bomb PAX East panel were on youtube.
They aren't, so just pretend there's one here.
Sort of.
Each rating above one increases the likelihood, but it's multiplied by the number of songs per rating level.
5 = 3
4 = 2.5
3 = 2
2 = 1.5
1 = 0
0 = 2
Multiply those numbers by how many songs in each category.
10 = 30
20 = 50
50 = 100
20 = 30
10 = 0
10 = 20
That's the likely hood of each song showing up. The more you have rated in a particular category, the more likely songs from that category show up. Most people tend to put songs in the three lighter range so that's where most of the songs that show up will come from.
It's also why, in my case, as the number of songs I've yet to play decreases, the harder it is for any of them to show up as long as I continue to play random setlists.
It's a terribly flawed system since it's only as good as the user ratings and even then becomes weighted more towards the largest category. I've seen some people who only rate everything with five lighters out of some compulsive need to have everything look 'balanced'. The only thing that it does well is eliminate one lighter songs from showing up randomly.
The caveat to one lighter songs is if you play the road challenges and there aren't enough total songs to chose from a particular category, then the lighter rating is ignored to properly fill out the set.
As far as the chip system goes, I'd never heard of it like that, but that's probably a factor as well. But as a lottery system, it's still pretty crap if you don't rate enough songs with five lighters.
(And then, after I type all this, fucking server busy! Thank god for back buttons...)
I'll just one-dot rank it and move on, same as the others I don't like.
What blew my mind was finding out the singer in that song is a woman.