Note to self: If one of your teammate tells you he will play AP Master Yi, queue dodge immediately. Don't ask why, just do and spare yourself the suffering.
Doubly so for a Laning AP Warwick.
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Wow, I love these Kat buffs. I hope they weren't too much; she feels pretty ballin'.
Still can't win a game with her, though. :P Last one I went 12 and 4 just just couldn't quite make up for our 0 and 19 Soraka who was 'playing LoL for the first time on a friend's computer' and bought a DFG as their first item.
I think I can believe a level 30 letting their friend play for the first time. But put that shit on a smurph. Let them play against other people that are "new" to the game rather than against all 30's.
If you're showing your friend the game, chances are you want them to play after showing it to them. You're not going to accomplish that by letting them get their ass kicked against a bunch of 30's.
Note to self: If one of your teammate tells you he will play AP Master Yi, queue dodge immediately. Don't ask why, just do and spare yourself the suffering.
Note to self: If one of your teammate tells you he will play AP Master Yi, queue dodge immediately. Don't ask why, just do and spare yourself the suffering.
I'm getting crazy, crazy scores with Kat but I keep losing anyway.
I'm not even raging, though, cuz this shit is so nuts.
I'm having the opposite. My Casseopeia Scores are usually in the realms of 1/4/15+ My Q is hitting like crazy but since it's a slow all my kills are getting sniped. S'ok though because we are winning these games
I think out of the 8 cass games I've played I've won 6 of them.
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edited December 2010
So I played Urgot for the first time in a couple months. Results within.
Note to self: If one of your teammate tells you he will play AP Master Yi, queue dodge immediately. Don't ask why, just do and spare yourself the suffering.
Doubly so for a Laning AP Warwick.
Are you serious?
Tanky/AP is how warwick should be played anyway.
building warwick AP is actively defeating the most effective part of Hungering Strike.
HS hits EITHER for: 20% of maximum health at rank 5, OR flat + AP. Both of these are lowered by MR.
There's a reason Bloodrazor is still the go-to item on him. Grab that and magic penetration to increase your Warwick output, not AP. The first 150 or so AP will be completely wasted by endgame because of health totals, and the more maximum HP your enemies have, the more you're wasting of your AP. If you're splitting between tank/AP, you're not going to get the 500 or so AP necessary to even start to make his hungering strikes hurt much more on squishies.
I've seen a lot of Warwick players not go Bloodrazor at all anymore and just get Wriggle's, then straight tank items. DanDinh was streaming today and I believe his build was something like Wriggle, Merc Treads, Spirit Visage, Randuin's Omen.
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Was he getting kills? Seems to me that if you want to get kills with Warwick, you need Madreds. Or something to deal damage. Otherwise you're a standard tank and you don't die and get a lot of assists.
Was he getting kills? Seems to me that if you want to get kills with Warwick, you need Madreds. Or something to deal damage. Otherwise you're a standard tank and you don't die and get a lot of assists.
Nah not too much I think he got a tanky type of score, maybe like 3-2-bunchofassists. Although if you time WW's Q well you can kill steal people like a pro.
And yes his team did win.
Oh and I should mention that he wasn't just building tanky because they didn't have another tank or anything like that. They had Shen and Singed.
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edited December 2010
Tried out the new Sona item order. Works all right, but I felt gold starved all game because of those fucking ward nerfs. Still made it to the Recurve, at least, so that part was fine.
Was he getting kills? Seems to me that if you want to get kills with Warwick, you need Madreds. Or something to deal damage. Otherwise you're a standard tank and you don't die and get a lot of assists.
Nah not too much I think he got a tanky type of score, maybe like 3-2-bunchofassists. Although if you time WW's Q well you can kill steal people like a pro.
Most of my kills with Amumu come as "steals" from despair getting the last hit. Some guy literally raged at me in a solo queue game.
"I'm sorry, I can't control when despair ticks. And I don't turn it off until the target is dead."
Yeah the games I've seen her in she just seems very underwhelming. She seems to have a pretty good early laning presence with her poison/twin fang combo. She seems like the new Urgot.
Is she fun to play? She doesn't really look it.
I think her AOE slow/poison needs to be a bit bigger. It seems so small that people can easily avoid it. Her ultimate cone just doesn't seem large enough to really have that much of an effect in team fights. It seems pretty good for ganking, though.
EDIT: Or that's what it looks like, anyway. Maybe people are just building her wrong.
I think next time i play her I'm going to focus on her Q more. The ratio on it is absurd. It's literally something like .85 or maybe even .9
The ratio on her E is pretty bad though despite being able to spam it.
Is her Q the one where she vomits purple goop?
Because it looks like it eat up your mana like crazy.
Nah her Q is the one that works kinda like Karthus' Lay Waste. It's on a short cooldown (3 seconds I think) Her W is the purple goo (miasma) which is a stronger poison but her to hit with. It's great for pushing a lane or defending though and it has a nice slow on it.
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Vamp Scepter (just to keep you in the lane)
Build Cutlass
Boots 1
Build Gunblade
Boots 2
Build Rageblade
Build Rylai's
Build GA & other survivability stuff
I don't like a Vamp Scepter first item on pretty much anyone because it forces you to push the lane to have any value, basically.
Guys, stop pushing out your lanes. There are a few specific champions and a few specific in-game situations where it's good to do so, but in general the rule of thumb is don't.
Also if I'm in a duo lane with you and you insist on autoing/nuking the creeps to push out the lane I will hate you forever
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How can you make use of vamp scepter as Kat, when any half competant opponent will nuke you when you get close? You'll get more regen out of a Doran's Shield or 2 health potions.
Doran's Shield seems so much better if you need to keep in your lane. The regen should be just as good as Vampiric Scepter, unless of course you're pushing with Scepter.
I don't like a Vamp Scepter first item on pretty much anyone because it forces you to push the lane to have any value, basically.
Guys, stop pushing out your lanes. There are a few specific champions and a few specific in-game situations where it's good to do so, but in general the rule of thumb is don't.
Also if I'm in a duo lane with you and you insist on autoing/nuking the creeps to push out the lane I will hate you forever
Even just last hitting with it should keep you in the lane (was working for me). You could start with Doran's Shield instead, but you'll be setting back your Cutlass & Gunblade, which you want ASAP.
Rylai's seems pretty key on Cass. Good luck running from her with how much she can spam her abilities. The spam also makes tear/archangel's a great buy, but getting Rylai's first seems more necessary since she's definitely a sustained DPS hero. Can't really do too much if they run away before you can steadily burn them down.
She seems great in teamfights though with that kind of DPS.
And yeah, her Q has an AMAZING AP ratio. The rest of her ratios are pretty crap though
How can you make use of vamp scepter as Kat, when any half competant opponent will nuke you when you get close? You'll get more regen out of a Doran's Shield or 2 health potions.
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Kat is very difficult to counter harass after level 3 because of her KI+Shunpo combo. She hammers you with Shunpo, you hit her back for reduced damage because of KI, she throws a BB in your face and maybe an auto or two.
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edited December 2010
Onward, Urgot supremacy
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edited December 2010
I'm finding it really hard to believe that people are as fucking stupid in League as they really are. I played a bomb as tank Singed, basically unkillable unless the whole other team all jumped me and even then I almost lived. All I need from my team is to beat the fuck out of the other teams squishes while I fuck with the tanks and poison the squishes. Is that so much to ask for? Can't believe I lost that game
Next game was a Blitztank, I was wrecking the other team, they were all AP except for Amumu who was the only tank. They couldn't touch me for the most part and again, all I needed from my team was them to wreck their DPS. Didn't fucking happen, I ran into the middle of the enemy team and proceeded to dish out some hurt while my team trudged into the fight and each went after a different target instead of doing some focus fire. Fucking awesome, bunch of fucking assholes.
8 games in a row so far and I've only managed to win two. What a miserable night to play LoL. I have no idea what more I can do, did I miss something?
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You know, I'm wondering. Was stacking Sunfires really that bad that it required a nerf?
Cause as an Amumu player, I liked getting 2 or 3 in certain games. Or if I was joking around and just having fun, I would get as many as I could and just run around like a jackass.
This may be one of the bigger nerfs to surprise me because I don't recall anyone complaining about it at all.
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Doubly so for a Laning AP Warwick.
really dumb enemies
enemies that have no CC at all
It's certainly difficult to pull off well though.
Still can't win a game with her, though. :P Last one I went 12 and 4 just just couldn't quite make up for our 0 and 19 Soraka who was 'playing LoL for the first time on a friend's computer' and bought a DFG as their first item.
If you're showing your friend the game, chances are you want them to play after showing it to them. You're not going to accomplish that by letting them get their ass kicked against a bunch of 30's.
Are you serious?
He's all NOM.
NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM.
NOM.
OM NOM.
And everyone else is all what is this guy doi- OM NOM -OH GOD IT HURTS- NOM
Also, is it possible to deal damage with Janna? No matter what I build, I always go 1-1-27 with her. I want to snowball too damnit!
You can become the best chaser in the game by focusing her W and E early and using Q for the knock up only basically.
Then you auto attack, snare, shield auto attack for fat deeps, knock em up, snare more, attack more, deeps more.
edit: for janna obviously.
For Kassadin I build Haunted Guise, Sorc Boots, Abyssal Scepter, Pray your carry built a lot of MR.
Tanky/AP is how warwick should be played anyway.
I'm not even raging, though, cuz this shit is so nuts.
I'm having the opposite. My Casseopeia Scores are usually in the realms of 1/4/15+ My Q is hitting like crazy but since it's a slow all my kills are getting sniped. S'ok though because we are winning these games
I think out of the 8 cass games I've played I've won 6 of them.
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building warwick AP is actively defeating the most effective part of Hungering Strike.
HS hits EITHER for: 20% of maximum health at rank 5, OR flat + AP. Both of these are lowered by MR.
There's a reason Bloodrazor is still the go-to item on him. Grab that and magic penetration to increase your Warwick output, not AP. The first 150 or so AP will be completely wasted by endgame because of health totals, and the more maximum HP your enemies have, the more you're wasting of your AP. If you're splitting between tank/AP, you're not going to get the 500 or so AP necessary to even start to make his hungering strikes hurt much more on squishies.
Nah not too much I think he got a tanky type of score, maybe like 3-2-bunchofassists. Although if you time WW's Q well you can kill steal people like a pro.
And yes his team did win.
Oh and I should mention that he wasn't just building tanky because they didn't have another tank or anything like that. They had Shen and Singed.
Most of my kills with Amumu come as "steals" from despair getting the last hit. Some guy literally raged at me in a solo queue game.
"I'm sorry, I can't control when despair ticks. And I don't turn it off until the target is dead."
What a garbage champ.
EDIT: Or that's what it looks like, anyway. Maybe people are just building her wrong.
I think next time i play her I'm going to focus on her Q more. The ratio on it is absurd. It's literally something like .85 or maybe even .9
The ratio on her E is pretty bad though despite being able to spam it.
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Yeah the games I've seen her in she just seems very underwhelming. She seems to have a pretty good early laning presence with her poison/twin fang combo. She seems like the new Urgot.
Is she fun to play? She doesn't really look it.
I think her AOE slow/poison needs to be a bit bigger. It seems so small that people can easily avoid it. Her ultimate cone just doesn't seem large enough to really have that much of an effect in team fights. It seems pretty good for ganking, though.
Is her Q the one where she vomits purple goop?
Because it looks like it eat up your mana like crazy.
Nah her Q is the one that works kinda like Karthus' Lay Waste. It's on a short cooldown (3 seconds I think) Her W is the purple goo (miasma) which is a stronger poison but her to hit with. It's great for pushing a lane or defending though and it has a nice slow on it.
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Vamp Scepter (just to keep you in the lane)
Build Cutlass
Boots 1
Build Gunblade
Boots 2
Build Rageblade
Build Rylai's
Build GA & other survivability stuff
Man it's so awesome.
Guys, stop pushing out your lanes. There are a few specific champions and a few specific in-game situations where it's good to do so, but in general the rule of thumb is don't.
Also if I'm in a duo lane with you and you insist on autoing/nuking the creeps to push out the lane I will hate you forever
Even just last hitting with it should keep you in the lane (was working for me). You could start with Doran's Shield instead, but you'll be setting back your Cutlass & Gunblade, which you want ASAP.
She seems great in teamfights though with that kind of DPS.
And yeah, her Q has an AMAZING AP ratio. The rest of her ratios are pretty crap though
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Kat is very difficult to counter harass after level 3 because of her KI+Shunpo combo. She hammers you with Shunpo, you hit her back for reduced damage because of KI, she throws a BB in your face and maybe an auto or two.
Next game was a Blitztank, I was wrecking the other team, they were all AP except for Amumu who was the only tank. They couldn't touch me for the most part and again, all I needed from my team was them to wreck their DPS. Didn't fucking happen, I ran into the middle of the enemy team and proceeded to dish out some hurt while my team trudged into the fight and each went after a different target instead of doing some focus fire. Fucking awesome, bunch of fucking assholes.
8 games in a row so far and I've only managed to win two. What a miserable night to play LoL. I have no idea what more I can do, did I miss something?
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sounds like you solo queued
so yeah
Cause as an Amumu player, I liked getting 2 or 3 in certain games. Or if I was joking around and just having fun, I would get as many as I could and just run around like a jackass.
This may be one of the bigger nerfs to surprise me because I don't recall anyone complaining about it at all.
I actually duo queued and I don't play ranked so its normal games but I haven't had this level of bullshit ever. It started on Saturday
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