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Mount and Blade:Warband-X Mod better than Y Mod- Z Mod okay

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If the OP is still around: The link to the TweakMB program and the list of tweaks thread are swapped so the TweakMB program link goes to the list of tweaks and vice versa.

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Oh god. Was playing yesterday, looked at the clock 10 PM. 'Oh okay, I can play for another hour...' Looked at the clock again after getting destroyed by some angry villagers with loads of rifles, coming back with 70 very angry mercs and supporting my chosen country's king. 'Oh shit, 2:30 AM...'

    Yeah, I guess something clicked.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I stayed up so late playing this game yesterday that when I went into work today I cussed out a coworker and almost got fired.

    BEAT THAT

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So I was thinking of getting either Mount + Blade, or Warband, which would be better to get? Is there any reason to not get Warband over vanilla M+B?

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  • FleebFleeb has all of the fleeb juice Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    No. Get Warband. The only reason to get plain ole M&B is for the Last Days mod... which may be out some time in the next decade. Maybe.

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  • SkeezicksSkeezicks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Basically, vanilla M&B is the unfinished version of Warband.

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  • fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Also note: the "Complete Pack" or whatever is bullshit as you don't need anything except Warband, and perhaps the new Mount and Gun pay-mod which most people don't seem to care for as much as the free mods.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Also note: the "Complete Pack" or whatever is bullshit as you don't need anything except Warband, and perhaps the new Mount and Gun pay-mod which most people don't seem to care for as much as the free mods.

    I don't understand the super hate for Fire and Sword. It adds in tons of cool features and isn't buggy as all fuck like every mod. Also multiplayer fights don't revolve around mashing mouse 1 while you cover yourself in a million shields.

    The slower combat is great.

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  • AiserouAiserou Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Now that I'm getting into a good groove, I find myself liking F&S more. Only thing I really miss is horse archery and heavy knights.

    Anyone have any idea what these "Story missions" are supposed to be? I helped out the village at the start, and then a while later I went back to the guy from the tutorial and he told me to visit a muscovite noble, who had me raid 3 polish villages. I haven't been able to find anything else. Do I just pick a kingdom and join up or what?

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Multiplayer F&S is kicking my ass

    most embarrassing moment: being led by a couple of muskateers into a windy maze of waist-high fences in a small village, and then being shot to death

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Man, I decided to help defend Dihirim in my Blood and Steel game. Pretty much every lord from both sides, the fight numbers about 5k total troops. I fell after maybe ten minutes at most, so I changed out a load of laundry, made some sandwiches, eat said sandwiches, and stumbled a few hundred times.

    The battle is still going.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Man, I decided to help defend Dihirim in my Blood and Steel game. Pretty much every lord from both sides, the fight numbers about 5k total troops. I fell after maybe ten minutes at most, so I changed out a load of laundry, made some sandwiches, eat said sandwiches, and stumbled a few hundred times.

    The battle is still going.
    Hehe, yeah hang tough. I participated in a similar war, tons and tons of important dudes, didn't last all the way through. I wound up with, like, six captured lords and made bank ransoming them.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Control + Space on the main map = speed? YES

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    blood and steel is good fun for murdering hundreds of men by yourself, at least thats what I did with the barbarian start, every battle i would just be drenched from head to feet in blood, it was metal.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So, caravans break with fire and sword. If you sell something to a goods vendor, you can send a full caravan of it to anywhere else. So simply save up about 4k thelars, and find two nearby cities with a price difference of about 150. I think I was using Kursk and Tula, selling iron at about 200 profit each, with 40 each caravan. Once you get around 15-20k, switch to velvet and do long runs. It generally sells cheap in the south east, and high in the northwest. I was doing runs around belatyn castle to novogrod, making 69k gross at about 42k profit. You can do this endlessly, because after you choose to send the caravan, you can re-buy the velvet or whatever good. Prices also remain fixed, or at least very close.

    Went from about 3k after maybe 8 hours or more of playing, to 150k in one extra hour, and most of that was searching for good markets and then for velvet, which seemed impossible to find for a while. It feels like cheating, as it's basically infinite money, but I got sick of having shit gear and shit troops who cant even level, you know?

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So, Blood and Steel. Apparently if you're given a town by a king, it grants you all the villages attached to that town as well.
    231E3FFEC4EC2F1135347206D1BC2EE1BA4D29B5

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  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So I've been hearing a lot about this Mount and Musket mod that's out.

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Raslin wrote: »
    Went from about 3k after maybe 8 hours or more of playing, to 150k in one extra hour, and most of that was searching for good markets and then for velvet, which seemed impossible to find for a while.

    Sich to Vyborg is an amazing trade route for velvet, just so you know.

    On a related note, upgrading your troops to all have the best possible weapons and armour is crazy. It makes them almost literally unstoppable.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Docshifty wrote: »
    So, Blood and Steel. Apparently if you're given a town by a king, it grants you all the villages attached to that town as well.
    231E3FFEC4EC2F1135347206D1BC2EE1BA4D29B5

    Your net change is 12345 8-)

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Docshifty wrote: »
    So, Blood and Steel. Apparently if you're given a town by a king, it grants you all the villages attached to that town as well.
    231E3FFEC4EC2F1135347206D1BC2EE1BA4D29B5

    Your net change is 12345 8-)

    ahaha, I didn't even realize that.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
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  • Catastrophe_XXVICatastrophe_XXVI Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Can i have an invite to the steamgroup?

    catastrophexxvi

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  • AiserouAiserou Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ugh, I need some help. I seem to have found a button that turns off all the messages in the game (damage, orders, exp, etc).

    Google has failed me, anyone know what key I'm looking for? This is in Warband if it makes a difference.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Aiserou wrote: »
    Ugh, I need some help. I seem to have found a button that turns off all the messages in the game (damage, orders, exp, etc).

    Google has failed me, anyone know what key I'm looking for? This is in Warband if it makes a difference.

    Are you using a mod? I know in my Blood and Steel games, if I bring up the tactcal menu in a fight, there's about a 90 percent chance it causes messages to not show. Save and restart fixes it for me.

    If its not that, check the options to make sure they're still checkmarked.

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  • AiserouAiserou Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    As a matter of fact, I'm using Blood and Steel.

    Thats.....annoying. Thanks for the heads up.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Aiserou wrote: »
    As a matter of fact, I'm using Blood and Steel.

    Thats.....annoying. Thanks for the heads up.

    If you're in the middle of a fight or somewhere you can't/don't want to save and restart, you can bring up the recent messages tab and they'll still show there.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    hmm

    PoP for warband is being a piece of shit and crashing constantly with runtime errors and complaints of missing files

    when I first try to install it, it says I have warband 1.124 installed instead of 1.134 and blah blah blah, but I definitely don't since a) I have it on steam and b) the launcher says '1.134'

    I realised I had vanilla M&B installed non-steamily and got rid of that but it didn't fix anything

    what do?

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  • DkarrdeDkarrde Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    found it on the forums, myself

    you have to download a copy from MnB's site and install it, non-steam, in order for some mods to work. Steam will have a CD Key you can copy and give them and that will allow you to download it from MnB's site.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    rrrrrrrrrrrrrreally

    ugh

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    It's not that because I've played a ton of PoP on my Steam copy of Warband (the only copy I have). Make sure you're using the latest version of the mod. I also got the warning about the version, but I just installed anyway and haven't had any problems.

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  • Tiger BurningTiger Burning Dig if you will, the pictureRegistered User, SolidSaints Tube regular
    edited May 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    hmm

    PoP for warband is being a piece of shit and crashing constantly with runtime errors and complaints of missing files

    when I first try to install it, it says I have warband 1.124 installed instead of 1.134 and blah blah blah, but I definitely don't since a) I have it on steam and b) the launcher says '1.134'

    I realised I had vanilla M&B installed non-steamily and got rid of that but it didn't fix anything

    what do?

    I got the steam version of warband and jumped immediately into PoP. I got a message from the PoP installer that it couldn't detect my version of warband, but I think that's just because of steam and it doesn't actually affect anything (it's still the right version). I was having a ton of problems running the game (crashes 5-20min in, bunch of different types of errors), but they were all fixed by the memory fix here, which is apparently necessary for a lot of computers, for a lot of the popular mods.

    Also, PoP is awesome, but it gets a little stale once you have more than a handful of Hero Adventurers following you around. Are there any other good mods with a lot of unit variety but no 'god-mode' troops, maybe?

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  • DkarrdeDkarrde Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    It's not that because I've played a ton of PoP on my Steam copy of Warband (the only copy I have). Make sure you're using the latest version of the mod. I also got the warning about the version, but I just installed anyway and haven't had any problems.

    it may not be consistent between computers and operating systems. in my case, I had severe problems until I installed it locally (non-steam), at which point they went away.

    The other likely culprit, however, is your video settings. Go to the options from the MnB launcher, and there are a few things you set -- change DirectX 9 to DirectX 7, set it to load textures on demand, and then when you get into the game proper, reduce or remove shadows, ragdolls and corpses.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Docshifty wrote: »

    oh man, that guy is terrible

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    oldsak wrote: »
    Docshifty wrote: »

    oh man, that guy is terrible

    Well it's Giant Bomb and this is a PC game, so it's to be expected.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Giant Bomb quick looks at PC games are usually a mixture of "how willfully ignorant can we be" and "how badly can we misapply the very few thing we've managed to learn about the game." They're funny though!

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  • Pablo the PenguinPablo the Penguin Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Giant Bomb quick looks at PC games are usually a mixture of "how willfully ignorant can we be" and "how badly can we misapply the very few thing we've managed to learn about the game." They're funny though!

    They actually mentioned this once, I think they were playing Gran Turismo (initiate paraphrasing):

    "Aw man, I'm doing pretty terrible here... and there's probably people watching this who just are totally pissed at how bad I am, right?"
    "Oh yeah, every Gran Turismo fan in the world hates you right now. They're screaming at their monitors 'NO! DO THE THI- AHHHH!!!"

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    To be fair, it's goddamn Mount and Blade. It's willfully obtuse, doesn't bother to explain anything to you, and is balls difficult if you don't know what to do.

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  • hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Do people find it hard?

    I've never found it hard.


    Well, I mean, there's "getting hunted down by lords with 400 dudes" hard, but not "omg what am I supposed to do" hard.

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  • JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I only have 45-ish hours logged in warband but after 7 in Fire and Sword I'm still a bit... aimless, yeah?

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    ffffffffffffffffuck I hate starting characters

    also what was that thing about the salt in PoP? something about a training field? And what's a rough description of what I should be aiming to do here? At the moment I'm just doing what I normally do with warband (a few quests for lords of places I like, going towards getting that mercenary contract thing then building up a good army and seceding to make my own empire)

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