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Europeans continue to be smelly hippies.

Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered User regular
edited December 2010 in Social Entropy++
http://cannabisni.com/world-wide-cannabis-news/1870-eu-holds-breakthrough-discussions-on-cannabis

So this is a pretty big deal! I guess. I dunno, haven't a bunch of EU countries already decriminalized weed? I don't keep up much with foreign politics.

Because I'm American.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ahem

    Continental Europeans are hippies

    Here in the UK we are straight-laced prudes and proud of it.

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    It's me. I'm a superhippie.

    Here in the Netherlands it's definitely decriminalised. It's in a bit of a precarious position right now because our government is christian/conservative who hate our drug policy for some reason. I don't know much about other European policies, but I think the use of cannabis has the very lowest priority when it's illegal.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    what's that about them trying to get a measure on shutting down the coffeeshops?

    ps if that happens by the time i get to amsterdam i am going to flood your country with my piss

    a little thing i picked up from a french fella named rabelais

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    bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    well that's nice to hear.

    funny how they are starting to come around right by the time the neo-christo-facists in my country are tearing down all prgogressive legislation like it's the storm of statues again

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Oh thank God. Wait, Norway's not the EU. Fuck.

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    what's that about them trying to get a measure on shutting down the coffeeshops?

    ps if that happens by the time i get to amsterdam i am going to flood your country with my piss

    a little thing i picked up from a french fella named rabelais

    They're not explicitly shutting down the coffeeshops, rather they're trying to cut down on drugtourism and trying to ''diminish public nuisance by drug users'', which will mean a lot less coffeeshops. It's pretty underhanded and will come back to bite them in the ass when they realise how much money it's going to cost the government when they shut everything down.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    and when exactly does that go into effect?

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    No clue when it goes into effect. All I can find are a bunch of articles about that our minister has plans, but not that there's any sort of timeframe in which he's going to put them into action, sorry!

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    you've been most helpful, wiet

    thank you

    i'd rather ask somebody that's there than go sift through a bunch of articles about the subject

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    It's no problem!

    All I can say is, if you want to come here for the coffeeshops, get over here sooner rather than later because our government is terrible.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    is march soon enough?

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    bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    2011?

    sure.

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Hey bwanie, how was your Sinterklaas?

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i don't think i really care for weed

    but if it was legal

    i might be inclined to buy a sack just for fun

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    KarlKarl Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I personally think we should decriminalise cannabis and put the same kind of restrictions on it that we have on booze and cigarettes.

    Now i know what you're all thinking:

    Karl, why would you think this?

    The answer is simple. We make it legal, then we tax it like a mother fucker. You want to get high?, that's cool. But you've got to pay the man because at some point the NHS is going to have to deal with your ill health because you've been smoking. Also to make some money off you too, invading countries to take their oil isn't cheap.

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    Linoleum CaesarLinoleum Caesar Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wiet wrote: »
    No clue when it goes into effect. All I can find are a bunch of articles about that our minister has plans, but not that there's any sort of timeframe in which he's going to put them into action, sorry!

    The new government wants to turn all coffeeshops into private clubs. Membership would only be available to Dutch nationals to cut down on drugs-tourism. But that discriminates on the basis of Nationality, which is a (rather flagrant) violation of EU Law so the ECJ or the commission will shut down that idea.

    On the other hand, several local governments are are running pilot-schemes to grow cannabis themselves.

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Karl wrote: »
    I personally think we should decriminalise cannabis and put the same kind of restrictions on it that we have on booze and cigarettes.

    Now i know what you're all thinking:

    Karl, why would you think this?

    The answer is simple. We make it legal, then we tax it like a mother fucker. You want to get high?, that's cool. But you've got to pay the man because at some point the NHS is going to have to deal with your ill health because you've been smoking. Also to make some money off you too, invading countries to take their oil isn't cheap.

    I feel the same way. Cannabis doesn't do much for me but I fail to see the point of banning it instead of taxing the shit out it. With all the economic troubles you'd think they'd welcome the additional finances.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i tell you what

    cannabis makes going to sleep a lot easier after working a night shift, or at the very least makes the time spent awake less miserable

    i'd rather have that option than drinking alcohol or taking pills (separately, of course)

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I miss hash. I'd like to chill and watch Planet Earth after a few puffs, but I don't know a good place to get it and I don't want to run the risk of buying shitty product.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    how risky is it to consort with hookers if you're a foreigner

    i wouldn't want to raise a ruckus by being ignorant

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I just dont understand the argument against cannabis being legal, every argument against its legalisation should be redirected towards making booze illegal if you want to remain consistent. In what aspect is it more dangerous, harmful or bad for the community moreso than booze?

    Is it that people think that criminals will suddenly be in charge of legal companies? Dont they realise as soon as its legal the price will go down as legal companies undercut each other, the only reason criminals deal in it is because its illegal and nobody else sells it, therefore they can charge whatever they want.

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    how risky is it to consort with hookers if you're a foreigner

    i wouldn't want to raise a ruckus by being ignorant

    not cool in germany

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    it is most definitely more harmful than booze

    for starters you can't o.d. on it

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    how risky is it to consort with hookers if you're a foreigner

    i wouldn't want to raise a ruckus by being ignorant

    Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. So if you bring money and a condom I think you'll be fine.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    would patton let a german tell him what to do?

    hell no

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    how risky is it to consort with hookers if you're a foreigner

    i wouldn't want to raise a ruckus by being ignorant

    Depends on where you going. Denmark and the Netherlands, you'll be all right. Got online pages for hookers and shit.

    Norway and Sweden, you're getting arrested.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Swill wrote: »
    it is most definitely more harmful than booze

    for starters you can't o.d. on it

    Wait, are you saying cannabis is more harmful than booze? Im not disputing this, Its just everything ive heard is to the contrary.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wiet wrote: »
    how risky is it to consort with hookers if you're a foreigner

    i wouldn't want to raise a ruckus by being ignorant

    Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. So if you bring money and a condom I think you'll be fine.

    what an amazing country

    a little slice of paradise below sea level

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Man, you can so easily OD on booze. Shit, I did it once.

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dead Legend, if you want to read up on Amsterdam, the tourist site is here.

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    L.E.O.L.E.O. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    one good reason to smoke weed is that it makes playing video games 10 times better.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i once drank the majority of a handle of rum(sailor jerry yum!) once over the course of a few hours

    around the time i ran out of cola i got tired of getting ice and started drinking it straight

    roughly at the same time i realized i was shithoused

    honestly surprised i didn't die

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'd love to see any information on anyone anywhere ever overdosing on marijuana and what the consequences were.

    Edit: I got a bottle of bad whiskey and few litres of wine in my system. My friends called the ambulance on my ugly ass.

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    SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Prohass wrote: »
    Swill wrote: »
    it is most definitely more harmful than booze

    for starters you can't o.d. on it

    Wait, are you saying cannabis is more harmful than booze? Im not disputing this, Its just everything ive heard is to the contrary.

    whooops that was a typo on my part

    i meant booze is more dangerous than weed

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    L.E.O.L.E.O. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Peter Ebel wrote: »
    I'd love to see any information on anyone anywhere ever overdosing on marijuana and what the consequences were.
    you cant OD on it.

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    L.E.O. wrote: »
    Peter Ebel wrote: »
    I'd love to see any information on anyone anywhere ever overdosing on marijuana and what the consequences were.
    you cant OD on it.

    Which is why I'm so interested in seeing Swill's information on it.

    Edit: We good, Swill. Damn keyboards have a mind of their own some times.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wiet wrote: »
    Dead Legend, if you want to read up on Amsterdam, the tourist site is here.

    thanks

    and just to clear the air, i'm not going to the netherlands for pot and hookers.

    i'm going to see the dikes

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    L.E.O.L.E.O. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wiet wrote: »
    Dead Legend, if you want to read up on Amsterdam, the tourist site is here.

    thanks

    and just to clear the air, i'm not going to the netherlands for pot and hookers.

    i'm going to see the dikes
    thats what they all say.

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    Peter EbelPeter Ebel CopenhagenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wiet wrote: »
    Dead Legend, if you want to read up on Amsterdam, the tourist site is here.

    thanks

    and just to clear the air, i'm not going to the netherlands for pot and hookers.

    i'm going to see the dikes

    Good stuff. Amsterdam is a good looking city. Relax and see the architecture.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    by relax do you mean cannabis and prostitutes?

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