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Online backup: Which do you prefer?
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I am finally gonna bite the bullet and get an online backup setup, because I have probably 1500 dollars in drum'n'bass singles I use to DJ that I simply can't lose. I've converted my entire vinyl collection digital plus I buy all digital now, and to lose it would be...very bad. Plus I have family photos and such.
Which do you guys prefer? The two big ones I know of are Carbonite and Mozy. Any pros and cons to either that you guys know of? Are there any smaller alternatives that I haven't heard of that are really good?
Obviously long term data security is important, so I'd like to stick to one that is big enough that it will likely be around in five or ten years.
Depending on your internet connection speed your better off backing up to an external hard drive. Online backups like carbonite and mozy can completely saturate your connection for a very long time depending on the amount of data your backing up.
I would highly recommend Acronis True Image backup. Its very simple to setup and use, plus it's inexpensive.
I already have critical stuff backed up, but I'm looking for a little 'the house just burnt down' insurance as well.
Opinions are appreciated!
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
I don't have gigs and gigs of data to back up. Maybe a gig and a half of music and pictures. The point of offsite, internet, backup, as tachyon said, is "oh god the house burned down and I was more worried about getting to my kid than my external HDD".
I used to use Mozy on my old iMac. They had a free 5GB plan for a while. It would sometimes stop updating and be unable to connect to their servers. Forcing an manual update usually fixed the issue for the few weeks. Keep in mind this was years ago, so their software has probably gotten better since then. Also they don't have the free option anymore.
If you only had about 2GB, I would think Drop Box would be enough for your needs. Although I've never used it myself. No risk to try it when it is free though...
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I've been wondering about using Amazon S3 for this purpose. At $0.093/GB/month, it seems like there's a range between 2GB (free with the services listed above) and 50GB (~$55/year like the above services) where it is the most economical choice. Plus you know Amazon's going to be around for a long time.
Has anyone tried this? Waaaay more trouble than it's worth?
Amazon S3 can get pricey if you ever need to send receive a lot of data.
Carbonite is probably the best right now. Not only does in encrypt files but it allows you to access information as if you just had files saved on a remote drive. Their service works very well.
I personally use MS Sky Drive because it's free. Mozy I don't have any experience with.
I've been wondering about using Amazon S3 for this purpose. At $0.093/GB/month, it seems like there's a range between 2GB (free with the services listed above) and 50GB (~$55/year like the above services) where it is the most economical choice. Plus you know Amazon's going to be around for a long time.
Has anyone tried this? Waaaay more trouble than it's worth?
Dropbox uses S3 :winky:
Also, you can get up to like 8GB for free from Dropbox, if you jump through some hoops. I think. I can't connect to their website, which means I just jinxed them. The service is up though.
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I've never used it, but on paper dropbox looks like a complete rip off, 9.99 a month for 50 gigs of storage when carbonite gives you unlimited for 54$ a year? yeah....
I used to use Mozy on my old iMac. They had a free 5GB plan for a while. It would sometimes stop updating and be unable to connect to their servers. Forcing an manual update usually fixed the issue for the few weeks. Keep in mind this was years ago, so their software has probably gotten better since then. Also they don't have the free option anymore.
Current Mozy user here, and something similar to this happens to me. I don't think it's a problem on their side, though, since I run into issues loading web pages too (Chrome says it can't find the server at all, but hitting refresh gets it to work).
It seems to have worked pretty well apart from that, though, but I haven't (knocking on wood) had the need to retrieve files from the backup service yet.
Another thing to note is the software now has the option to use an external hard disk as a backup location too, in addition to the online storage. I don't use that option, though, since I don't have an external drive that's big enough :oops:
Dropbox seems to be more of a "Keep these files synced between several computers" than a back up solution.
In practice the distinction is largely meaningless
The difference in purposes comes through in the pricing and capacities. Mozy is $5/month for unlimited data. For DropBox it's $10/month for up to 50GB and $20/month for 100GB.
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I've been wondering about using Amazon S3 for this purpose. At $0.093/GB/month, it seems like there's a range between 2GB (free with the services listed above) and 50GB (~$55/year like the above services) where it is the most economical choice. Plus you know Amazon's going to be around for a long time.
Has anyone tried this? Waaaay more trouble than it's worth?
I use jungledisk to backup to Amazon S3. I got it before Rackspace purchased them so I have a license that I can use with Amazon without paying a subscription, I just have to pay Amazon for storage and transfer. I have 5 or 6 GB on S3 and it usually costs less than $2 a month. Now they require a subscription so it's not as good a deal.
I also use dropbox and have been considering getting the 10 GB upgrade and just using it instead of jungledisk. The nice thing about dropbox is that it is available on my iphone and my CR-48. You have to adjust to putting things in your dropbox folder instead of just keeping them where you had them before but everything syncs everywhere and you don't have to fuss with backup settings like what file types or folders to back up.
I have heard good things about Carbonite but have never used it. You can use dropbox up to 2GB for free so you can see if it works for you otherwise go with something like carbonite.
I've been using Carbonite on my wifes macbook for the past year or so. It saved my life when her HDD died as her laptop is full of work stuff.
The backup part of it is great and runs in the background so you'll never notice it going. I do find the restoring to be kind of weak though. There isn't much to the status on the restore and it's not very user friendly for choosing what to restore or any good way to manage what is currently backed up on their service. I also had one issue where it was complaining about restoring a particular file and getting stuck on it until I removed it online (luckily a non important one). I've been thinking of getting a windows copy to try out and see if their UI is any better.
heh, I use tarsnap, but that's not really something most people would use for desktop backup (and for me, it's that the files end up on some server or another that causes them to get backed up)
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I would highly recommend Acronis True Image backup. Its very simple to setup and use, plus it's inexpensive.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/index.html
Opinions are appreciated!
EDIT: If you go with Dropbox use someone's referral so you both get extra space.
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If you only had about 2GB, I would think Drop Box would be enough for your needs. Although I've never used it myself. No risk to try it when it is free though...
This would require me to take my lazy ass to a bank every few months. Unlikely, as good as the suggestion is.
I'll give dropbox a shot (Smart Hero gets the referral because he was first and pro-active).
Has anyone tried this? Waaaay more trouble than it's worth?
Carbonite is probably the best right now. Not only does in encrypt files but it allows you to access information as if you just had files saved on a remote drive. Their service works very well.
I personally use MS Sky Drive because it's free. Mozy I don't have any experience with.
Dropbox uses S3 :winky:
Also, you can get up to like 8GB for free from Dropbox, if you jump through some hoops. I think. I can't connect to their website, which means I just jinxed them. The service is up though.
Confined to a tiny spit of sand, unable to escape,
But tonight, it's heavy stuff.
In practice the distinction is largely meaningless
Current Mozy user here, and something similar to this happens to me. I don't think it's a problem on their side, though, since I run into issues loading web pages too (Chrome says it can't find the server at all, but hitting refresh gets it to work).
It seems to have worked pretty well apart from that, though, but I haven't (knocking on wood) had the need to retrieve files from the backup service yet.
Another thing to note is the software now has the option to use an external hard disk as a backup location too, in addition to the online storage. I don't use that option, though, since I don't have an external drive that's big enough :oops:
The difference in purposes comes through in the pricing and capacities. Mozy is $5/month for unlimited data. For DropBox it's $10/month for up to 50GB and $20/month for 100GB.
I also use dropbox and have been considering getting the 10 GB upgrade and just using it instead of jungledisk. The nice thing about dropbox is that it is available on my iphone and my CR-48. You have to adjust to putting things in your dropbox folder instead of just keeping them where you had them before but everything syncs everywhere and you don't have to fuss with backup settings like what file types or folders to back up.
I have heard good things about Carbonite but have never used it. You can use dropbox up to 2GB for free so you can see if it works for you otherwise go with something like carbonite.
The backup part of it is great and runs in the background so you'll never notice it going. I do find the restoring to be kind of weak though. There isn't much to the status on the restore and it's not very user friendly for choosing what to restore or any good way to manage what is currently backed up on their service. I also had one issue where it was complaining about restoring a particular file and getting stuck on it until I removed it online (luckily a non important one). I've been thinking of getting a windows copy to try out and see if their UI is any better.