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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    If anything, I envy bis

    purely on the virtue of variety

    something that makes me mad(?) is the notion that bisexuals are lucky because they have double the chances of finding someone

    it just doesn't sit right with me for some reason but I'm not sure why

    E: not that I'm saying that's what you're saying or anything, it just made me remember is all

    yeah, that's not my thought process at all

    mostly, it's about people appreciating a wider variety of aesthetics than I can

    oh sure, definitely

    maaaaaan I shaved my legs in the shower and now they're all prickly :<

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    in actuality it can be extremely difficult for bisexuals to date

    if they choose at all at any point to disclose to their partner that they are bisexual

    you don't have to, of course, because your partner will just assume you are whatever sexuality is compatible with dating them (if you're a dude and they're a dude, they'll assume you are gay, etc.)

    and you can choose to just not correct them on that assumption

    if you're just casually dating someone, this is fine, it's not like you need to disclose every sexual viewpoint and value you have on the first date or something

    but if your relationship is becoming more serious they really kinda do have a right to know

    they are the person you are having sex with, after all

    if for no other reason than they have a right to have some understanding of your sexual experiences and such

    if you choose only to disclose it at that point in the relationship and actively or passively concealed it up until that point it can feel like a hell of a betrayal even if they're not otherwise monosexist

    and if they are monosexist, things will end up getting ugly

    so if you are a bisexual person trying to date it can be an incredibly complex minefield of when, if at all, do you tell the person you are dating.

    considering the attitude the gay community in particular has towards bisexuality this can make dating someone of the same gender incredibly frustrating and fraught with heartache for a bisexual.

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    one time I kissed a frog
    and I liked it :oops:
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1D9hA1tWIw
    I fucked your eggsac

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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    fuck I really hope all this hatred and shit gets sorted by the time I start dating cause going through something like that is an experience I do NOT wish to partake in

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    BEARDBEARD Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I do not envy that position, even if it would come with the benefit of enjoying dongs

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Prohass wrote: »
    Gonna be an oldie with me, breaking up with a girl who i still loved because the situation wasn't working out and breaking up would work out best for both of us. She was devastated and its the first time ive ever initiated breaking up with someone and I handled it less than well.

    All worked out well though in the end. And im pretty grateful its the hardest thing ive had to do.

    Thankfully I've never had the actual breaking up of a girl be that horrific for me. But it has always been what comes from it that tears me up.

    Like when an ex & I broke up in high school and agreed to be friends, but the next day she started altering her walking schedule so she wouldn't have to speak to me in addition to it being revealed she dumped me for an emotionally abusive guy who commanded her when she could speak (while I had been trying to work with her during our relationship on her public speak skills).

    Or like when an ex in college broke up with me and agreed to be friends but the next couple weeks stopped any talking to be, told me she was going to try to hook up with one of my best friends, tried to crush me through authority at our campus radio station and lauded over me that she had found a 'perfect' boyfriend.

    Ladies...

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    BEARD wrote: »
    Okay

    I don't think people are intolerant of bisexuality in the same way you see intolerance of transgendered or homosexual people though, unless they are all of these things, in which case they're just intolerant of everything. "Monosexism" isn't a belief people are going to have much conviction in.

    hey beard isn't it crazy presumptuous on your part to tell me just how much conviction people feel over the subject when i actually have personal experience with it and have been broken up with over it multiple times and been rebuked from social gatherings over it and been insulted, belittled, and publicly mocked over it

    maybe you should just stick to "hey i actually don't know all that much about this subject" and leave it at that.

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    BEARDBEARD Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Good god, chili cheese Fritos are delicious

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Yo I'll just worry about getting dates first, thanks

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    fuck I really hope all this hatred and shit gets sorted by the time I start dating cause going through something like that is an experience I do NOT wish to partake in

    being broken up with because the person you are dating now knows you are bisexual fucking sucks.

    it hurts, quite a lot, and it never really becomes something you get cool with

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    BEARDBEARD Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I do not really know that much about the subject

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Yo I'll just worry about getting dates first, thanks

    date zonugal

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    UlisesUlises Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Koshian wrote: »
    Ulises wrote: »
    pony this is nuts

    it's like you want to feel persecuted by something

    those ___________* don't really have it that bad! they just want an excuse to get angry at us normal people!

    *gays
    *women
    *transpeople
    *uppity blacks

    yeah this is silly, undermining the level of discrimination anybody is faced with

    sorry guys

    i guess i might be facing plenty of the old monosexism and bisexual erasure myself in the coming years

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    as a general notion people should avoid telling other people that a form of discrimination they've personally been the victim of is "not that big of a deal"

    even if it looks, on some larger scale, as statistically insignificant to a larger percentage of people when you are talking to someone who has actually experienced it you might show some tact in refraining from belittling the severity or importance of it to them personally.

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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    fuck I really hope all this hatred and shit gets sorted by the time I start dating cause going through something like that is an experience I do NOT wish to partake in

    being broken up with because the person you are dating now knows you are bisexual fucking sucks.

    it hurts, quite a lot, and it never really becomes something you get cool with

    nuuuuuuh D;

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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    ooowwww I missed a couple places when shaving and now the back of my knee is all red and inflamed OWWW

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Yo I'll just worry about getting dates first, thanks

    date zonugal

    how does he feel about boring hetero dudes

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    BEARDBEARD Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Let me clarify

    I don't think you don't have the right to be offended if somebody is intolerant of your bisexuality. You have the right to be offended as hell about that. I was just saying that it's hard to conceive of a person who could be tolerant of homosexuality and not bisexuality. It seems like monosexism is simply a side-effect of general bigotry.

    But! You have more experience in the matter. So, these people exist, and they are assholes.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Its not all bad guys! My best friend is engaged to a bisexual personage who would argue into the dirt anyone who doubted or belittled her bisexuality or her love of my mate.

    Beard I basically JUST did a class on this in Gender studies so this kind of stuff is fresh in my brain, the reaction of the 'gay community' to bisexuality in particular was/is pretty interesting/shocking.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    BEARD wrote: »
    I do not really know that much about the subject

    that's okay

    i didn't think you were being malicious

    to be honest it's actually really hard to parse something like monosexism actually being an issue until you actually see or experience it for yourself.

    because it's the sort of thing that, were people logical and non-hypocritical, shouldn't even happen!

    so it's the sort of idea that is presented to someone and they're reflexively like "naw, man, that's crazy, that's not a real thing, that don't happen"

    because they realize how incredibly baseless and ludicrous monosexism is and they're like "how could anyone who claims to be open-minded or cool with gay people also be such an asshole towards bisexuals?"

    the answer, as is often the case with discrimination, is simply hypocrisy and stereotyping and the fact that being logically consistent is not exactly an extolled virtue in the minds of many

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Yo I'll just worry about getting dates first, thanks

    date zonugal

    I've been told I am quite a catch.

    Rawr!

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    BEARDBEARD Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'll tell the next girl I date that I am also into dudes, and see what happens

    it's like when dave chapelle dressed up in whiteface

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Yo I'll just worry about getting dates first, thanks

    date zonugal

    I've been told I am quite a catch.

    Rawr!

    and he has a mouth where a dick would be!

    infinite blowjobs~

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    how does he feel about boring hetero dudes

    That happens to be my favorite type of hetero dude...

    I'm sorry that is a lie.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    ZONUGAL casts INFINITY BLOWJOB

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    ZONUGAL casts INFINITY BLOWJOB

    It's super effective!

    EVERYONE GETS OFF then FAINTS!

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    MereHappenstanceMereHappenstance Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    ZONUGAL casts INFINITY BLOWJOB

    Um, excuse me. I believe the correct title is blowjobs of the infinite.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    IT IS SUPER EFFECTIVE!

    edit: Dammit Arivia! Dammit!!!

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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Koshian wrote: »
    ooowwww I missed a couple places when shaving and now the back of my knee is all red and inflamed OWWW

    whuh

    I have mountain man legs and I don't want to have mountain man legs so I shave and I didn't do a very good job of it this time and I got razor burn on the back of my knee

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    FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    how do I ask a girl nicely to shave her pubes?

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    ZONUGAL casts INFINITY BLOWJOB

    Um, excuse me. I believe the correct title is blowjobs of the infinite.

    shit

    he's right as of last month's errata and rulings document

    pack it up folks

    we've been...outnerded

    @Zonugal: you are welcome

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The obvious upgrades to the spell being

    QUANTUM BLOWJOB

    and

    TENGAN TOPPA GURREN BLOWJOB

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    BEARD wrote: »
    Let me clarify

    I don't think you don't have the right to be offended if somebody is intolerant of your bisexuality. You have the right to be offended as hell about that. I was just saying that it's hard to conceive of a person who could be tolerant of homosexuality and not bisexuality. It seems like monosexism is simply a side-effect of general bigotry.

    But! You have more experience in the matter. So, these people exist, and they are assholes.

    i understand that, especially that bolded thing

    it seems logically impossible for a person to simultaneously hold that "gay=okay, bi=bad"

    yet they do!

    for reasons i explained, which aren't even good reasons but they are the reasons people use.

    monosexism in the gay community in particular is a complex beast

    because for one thing you have all those notions of hedonism and monogamy and all that i explained earlier

    but also, and very few gay monosexists would admit this openly

    is an intrinsic bitterness some gay people (especially gay men) have for bisexuals for the ability of bisexuals to easily "pass" in a heteronormative society, that bisexuals have an "unfair advantage" in that they have the "option" of dating someone of the opposite gender and arousing no suspicion or ire and being perfectly happy moseying along in straight society.

    out of this belief, a lot of gay people think that bisexuals don't have the same vested interest in the gay rights movement and other associated things unless they're actively dating someone of the same gender, and especially not if they are in a monogamous relationship with someone of the opposite gender.

    the vicious cycle of this is that these viewpoints largely serve to alienate bisexuals from the gay community and from queer activism, which only reinforces the belief of the gays that they don't care as much or aren't really "one of us" or whatever, which means they alienate them more, etc.

    it's complicated and has a bunch of different factors involved, those are just some.

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    MereHappenstanceMereHappenstance Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Franko wrote: »
    how do I ask a girl nicely to shave her pubes?

    "Bitch, that shit be hairy yo. "

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    LaCabraLaCabra MelbourneRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i actually had to look up monosexism when I read it in here, but then I realised I totally know a gay dude who doesn't "believe in bisexuality" and i just hadn't thought about it

    that has now contributed to my growing dislike of the guy

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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Koshian wrote: »
    Koshian wrote: »
    ooowwww I missed a couple places when shaving and now the back of my knee is all red and inflamed OWWW

    whuh

    I have mountain man legs and I don't want to have mountain man legs so I shave and I didn't do a very good job of it this time and I got razor burn on the back of my knee

    y-you have hair on the back of your knees?

    whuh

    I had a similar response when I discovered them!

    they are a bitch and a half to get rid of, let me tell you

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Franko wrote: »
    how do I ask a girl nicely to shave her pubes?

    tell her that she is unfeminine and a hairy witch and that you won't sleep with her unless she shaves no matter what

    that is the socially acceptable way

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    BEARDBEARD Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I really would like to know why there's such a large proportion of transgendered folks associated with these forums, which (ostensibly!) have absolutely nothing to do with transgenderism. Are there some sorts of internet ley-lines converging here?

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Very belated "great to hear it!" to you Whippy

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    FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    Franko wrote: »
    how do I ask a girl nicely to shave her pubes?

    tell her that she is unfeminine and a hairy witch and that you won't sleep with her unless she shaves no matter what

    that is the socially acceptable way

    umm I don't think I can say all that to my mom dude

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