Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
Not that I know of, but you could always start one. I'm sure there are more than a few that want a PvP server. Not me, but I'm sure there are a few.
-Hype for this game is very high
-Most of us know what we want to play
-We know the races
-We know the classes
-We know the starships
-I think we know all the major aspects of how this game will play
-We've seen gameplay
-We've started our guilds.
Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
There's plenty of PvP on the PvE servers, you know. Just not "world PvP" which is 99% lvl 85s sitting in the lvl 25 questing hub killing lowbies. I can live with that.
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There's plenty of PvP on the PvE servers, you know. Just not "world PvP" which is 99% lvl 85s sitting in the lvl 25 questing hub killing lowbies. I can live with that.
I suckle my need to kill mans with shooters as always, and can live with that too, at least until GW2 out.
Still, it would be nice to see at least a bit more real open world PvP in places that aren't that one garbage planet.
Well, it's still not really for sure how open world PVP is going to operate yet. As I said when the vote came to a close, I'm sure, during open beta, someone will check out the PVP servers and alert us all to how they are. They could very well have a system set up in open pvp that minimizes griefing.
There did seem to be enough interest in this game to merit a PVP guild though, but I think we should wait until open beta to determine exactly how many people are going to be looking to play so we don't spread thin.
Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
I voted PvE because PvP servers cater to one audience and only one audience, the griefing asshole. Oh and I guess the people who find excitement out of getting griefed while questing. I use to PvP pretty hardcore, DAoC, AO, Planetside (if that even counts), WoW and a few others were all PvP servers. I came to the realization that now with new features in MMos there is absolutely zero reason to roll on a PvP server. You can PvP just the same on a PvE server with the advantage being you can quest when you want to without getting griefed.
It just isn't fun to be spawn camped for 20 minutes, open world PvP is very rarely fun, usually just an annoyance and hindrance.
Well, we had the benefit of fighting Kurtz' Panda Attack, and when dickery was committed, our guild leaders and their guild leaders would talk it out and the dickery was dealt with. Now if we got stuck with Goons, I can understand that view then.
Well, we had the benefit of fighting Kurtz' Panda Attack, and when dickery was committed, our guild leaders and their guild leaders would talk it out and the dickery was dealt with. Now if we got stuck with Goons, I can understand that view then.
The majority of people who play MMOs have the worst mentality, most people just kill on sight, maybe you got lucky and had a good server but I have never had a decent one and I was in a pretty low pop server in WoW and it made no difference, people still camped, raided and greifed every zone.
No I just realized that it detracts from fun more than it offers fun, for me at least. It caters to greifers, if you want open world PvP almost every MMO now has PvP zones anyways just for that, if not that then there are battlegrounds and all that kind of stuff anyways. I just got bored of MMO PvP, if it is open world it is never a fair fight and not really fun to begin with, if it is a fair fight then sometimes it still isn't even really fun because the gear difference is so high. If it is all an even fight (levels, gear, numbers) then sometimes it can be fun but that is usually only in an arena style fight and I find a lot of MMO PvP to be poorly done, not rewarding skill too much and not too deep or interesting.
I play a lot of game competitively, I have been on a lot of good teams for FPS games, I was in a hardcore raiding guild for WoW (NA first for some AQ boss and ZG I think, its been a long time though, we also helped hold the scepter ransom which was in the news) anyways I have experience with these things, I just don't find it appealing. I play an MMO for the social experience I guess, its the only reason to play an MMO and PvP detracts highly from the fun of it.
I didn't vote! I agree with the outcome though, I have nothing but distaste for world pvp as it's implemented in most MMOs. I think there should be PvE areas, and PvP areas. TOR should have taken more advantage of this since they literally can just go "this is a pvp planet" and "this is a pve planet" and make one have player kill/capture whatever quests and the other "go get me ten womp rats".
Maybe they did that? I heard something about pvp on some planets, which to my recollection was even on pve servers, since the whole point of the planet was pvp? This is from way back though, so that might have changed. That would be great if it made it in, that way I can shoot peoples when I feel like it, and go mine fish when I feel like it.
Fair fights in MMO pvp only take place in instanced battlegrounds, and even then not always. Open world PVP is only ever fun for the side who accidentally showed up with more people.
For every 1 time you stumbled across a huge battle between 50 people on each side and had a great time, other people had 1000 times where they were trying to do a quest and 3 opposing faction members just came along and ganked them for no good reason in a fight that was pointless and not even a challenge.
That's why you're never going to find a successful PvE focused MMO that has more PvP servers than PvE. People want to PvP when they want to, not whenever they stumble across a fight they know they can win, or get stumbled across.
I didn't vote! I agree with the outcome though, I have nothing but distaste for world pvp as it's implemented in most MMOs. I think there should be PvE areas, and PvP areas. TOR should have taken more advantage of this since they literally can just go "this is a pvp planet" and "this is a pve planet" and make one have player kill/capture whatever quests and the other "go get me ten womp rats".
Maybe they did that? I heard something about pvp on some planets, which to my recollection was even on pve servers, since the whole point of the planet was pvp? This is from way back though, so that might have changed. That would be great if it made it in, that way I can shoot peoples when I feel like it, and go mine fish when I feel like it.
I think this could be cool. Have instanced battlegrounds, but then also have planets that can have large numbers from each side fighting over objectives without a clear end to the battle. You'd know that was the only purpose for going to that planet anyway.
Sounds kind of like WAR was hypothetically supposed to work. I'm not sure it could ever actually work well in practice because it's human nature to look for every possible advantage, which frequently translates to "wait until the other players log out so they can go to sleep/dinner/work and then take the objective from them," but it's still fun to imagine -- I had a moment of nostalgic longing for the game I thought WAR might end up being when an ad popped up informing me that impulse is selling the client for something like 66% off.
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I think we need a pvp thread for this discussion. I mean I said my piece and now things are going in circles since then. I don't feel like retreading it again without any new information about how it is going to work in swtor. I'd be happy to discuss it in an mmo pvp thread.
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Not sure if this is a problem but the Empire guild is now at 24 members which is great, but I have no idea who anyone is. I have been accepting all applications so maybe in a couple months or whenever (before beta/launch) I will have everyone PM me/whoever is in charge so sort through who is active/actually PA.
Not sure if this is a problem but the Empire guild is now at 24 members which is great, but I have no idea who anyone is. I have been accepting all applications so maybe in a couple months or whenever (before beta/launch) I will have everyone PM me/whoever is in charge so sort through who is active/actually PA.
I'll do a big ol' list on the OP of SWTOR account name and PA names when we get a bit closer to beta, so everyone can track down everybody else.
Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
Hadn't seen "Ewok" used as a replacement for Carebear. Well played sir.
I think you guys are crazy; that said this may float your boat. The WoW PAA guilds (ex-roostaz included) are going PvP East.
Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
Hadn't seen "Ewok" used as a replacement for Carebear. Well played sir.
I think you guys are crazy; that said this may float your boat. The WoW PAA guilds (ex-roostaz included) are going PvP East.
Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
Hadn't seen "Ewok" used as a replacement for Carebear. Well played sir.
I think you guys are crazy; that said this may float your boat. The WoW PAA guilds (ex-roostaz included) are going PvP East.
That looks like a lot of people, was that the PA guild gabe and tycho were in? Actually I have no idea, were they even in a PA guild?
I believe it's a group of all of the guilds which originally rolled on Dark Iron along with the guild that Gabe and Tycho were in, collectively known as the "PA Alliance", hence a lot of people.
Sorry if I missed it but is there going to be any PA guild on a PVP server? I know the vote went 50/40 in favor of PvE. I have not a single ounce of interest on playing on a PVE server and could never bring myself to. Will there be a PA PVP guild?
I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
Hadn't seen "Ewok" used as a replacement for Carebear. Well played sir.
I think you guys are crazy; that said this may float your boat. The WoW PAA guilds (ex-roostaz included) are going PvP East.
That looks like a lot of people, was that the PA guild gabe and tycho were in? Actually I have no idea, were they even in a PA guild?
I believe it's a group of all of the guilds which originally rolled on Dark Iron along with the guild that Gabe and Tycho were in, hence a lot of people.
Neat I guess, I remember there were lots of overpopulation problems with that server because of that.
It remains to be seen how many of those people will be going over to SWTOR until we reach an open beta. Gabe, being a huge Star Wars and MMO guy, will likely comment on this game come release, so maybe he'll direct the PA population towards a PVP server. All the same, we'll have PVE guilds set up in the mean time anyway because it's pretty clear there's a large number of people on these forums that do not want to play PVP.
Yeah, the guild alliance on dark iron was where G&T played when they still had a public presence in the game. We had an ongoing war with a horde group of guilds that came from some other webcomic forum communities; PvP, LookingForGroup, and I think another one that I've forgotten. It was cool for a while because 1) it let us organize large scale stuff like Everything Must Die, opposing org battlegrounds and other world pvp goodness and 2) it gave us a direct line to members of the opposite faction, which really helped reduce griefing.
The penny arcade group is down quite a bit in size since the heyday (although there's probably still a thousand or so playing members), and the horde contingent still exists but is functionally nonexistent as a regular foil.
It made world pvp a lot of fun sometimes and helped mitigate the dumb that goes along with being on a pvp server, but it was also a really unique set of circumstances that isn't likely to be duplicated in SWTOR.
There will probably be enough enthusiasm to have pve and pvp server presences, but hell if I'm rolling on a pvp server.
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One thing I really like about how Bioware's running its guild registration is that they let you designate adversary guilds so you could theoretically go into the game with a designated "foil" guild to help you organize some regular PvP with a minimal degree of griefing.
Theoretically, anyway. I honestly would enjoy griefing the snot out of any of the mouth-breathers who post regularly on the official forums about their guilds.
I simply can't play PVE. I can't do it. It's god damn impossible for me to do.
Because it makes no sense
Both WoW and TOR are games set in the middle of a fucking planet/galactic war and there are times when I can't attack an enemy? Fuck that nonsense. This is war!
I think I'll be joining up with the PAA on their PVP server.
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I simply can't play PVE. I can't do it. It's god damn impossible for me to do.
Because it makes no sense
Both WoW and TOR are games set in the middle of a fucking planet/galactic war and there are times when I can't attack an enemy? Fuck that nonsense. This is war!
I think I'll be joining up with the PAA on their PVP server.
Actually, both games are set during tenuous treaty negotiations and truces. Facts!
Well, it doesn't make sense to carry around half a dozen mounts in your bag either. :P
With that in mind, I personally don't mind only fighting the opposing faction in designated PvP areas or Warzones. It's not completely realistic, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little realism if it helps me enjoy the overall game more. But maybe I should wait to see what Bioware plans to do with open PvP first. <.<
Why are both sides of the argument acting like they're being oppressed by the other side?
Dear god, it's a fucking game, people! We're fucking talking about space wizards, laser swords and laser guns on a game that hasn't even been released yet. Please don't talk about things making sense or not.
Play the game with the guild....or not. There is no galactic empire keeping you down. Quit acting like you're one step away from singing the MMO blues.
Why are both sides of the argument acting like they're being oppressed by the other side?
Dear god, it's a fucking game, people! We're fucking talking about space wizards, laser swords and laser guns on a game that hasn't even been released yet. Please don't talk about things making sense or not.
Play the game with the guild....or not. There is no galactic empire keeping you down. Quit acting like you're one step away from singing the MMO blues.
Fact is anyone who wants to play on a PvP server isn't going to play on a PvE server just because that's what was voted. And to be fair, if PvP had won I doubt everyone who wants a PvE server would have joined up on a PvP one either. I'll admit I wouldn't have.
Honestly, given the fact everyone is either hinting or outright stating they are going on the server type they wanted regardless of the vote, I have to wonder why even bother with a vote in the first place. Having a vote go 60/40 in favor of PvE just means 60% of the people are going to join a PvE server and 40% are going to be annoyed and then make their own guild on a PvP one. That's it. Nobody is going to change their plans because of what other forum posters want.
I mean, I understand the intent was to keep everyone together and be democratic about it, but that's just not a realistic expectation from a loose forum community. Now if we were all part of some close-knit raiding guild from WoW who had known each other for blah blah years, I could see it being expected that everyone would abide by a single vote. Even then it'd be hard to pull off though.
Again, I'd like to say I understand what the intent is behind trying to organize things as devCharles has been doing, but honestly I think even he is already sliding towards nullifying the vote because he was discontent with it. "Gabe might come in and direct the population towards a PvP server"? So basically the vote means nothing if Gabe comes in here and voices his preference different? (mind you I think the chance of Gabe coming in here and commenting are zip).
And that's not meant to insult dev, I'm just saying even the OP is ready to abandon it pretty easily, though I can't say whether it's because he's hoping it gets "changed" to PvP or whether he just wants to see Gabe comment in the forums for once.
And none of this is "bad", it's just human nature. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go roll on an RP server.
I would have went PvP if that is where everyone wanted to go, but I prefer PvE. I mean PvP is just for greifing and I am not into that anymore.
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I'm confused. Last few times there were major mmos coming out multiple guilds were created.
So why is there a focus on a single guild this time? Who has the wrong idea about that?
Make. Another. Guild.
Fizban, I do not grief people, but thank you kindly for the incredibly rude insult.
There is this wonderful anti-pvp thing going on in here which is starting to devolve into attributing generalised motivations to the preference that automatically imply negative personal characteristics. This, like all stereotypical discrimination, needs to stop. Right now.
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I'm confused. Last few times there were major mmos coming out multiple guilds were created.
So why is there a focus on a single guild this time? Who has the wrong idea about that?
Make. Another. Guild.
Read the op.
There are 2 guilds, Empire and Republic, I doubt he could do too many more than that but if there is enough interest I am sure there could be PvP and PvE for both factions.
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Not that I know of, but you could always start one. I'm sure there are more than a few that want a PvP server. Not me, but I'm sure there are a few.
-Hype for this game is very high
-Most of us know what we want to play
-We know the races
-We know the classes
-We know the starships
-I think we know all the major aspects of how this game will play
-We've seen gameplay
-We've started our guilds.
...but we've got no game to play
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I feel similarly. After being on 2 PvE servers in WoW before I ended up on Dark Iron with Kung Foo Roostaz, I can't go back to PvE.
I'll probably screw around on a PvP server until we pick one, then move there. I'll just do all the early stuff for each class using one of the backgrounds I'm not going to stick with, so it will still seem new.
I'm a little bummed I have to go that way since more people decided to go Ewok.
I suckle my need to kill mans with shooters as always, and can live with that too, at least until GW2 out.
Still, it would be nice to see at least a bit more real open world PvP in places that aren't that one garbage planet.
There did seem to be enough interest in this game to merit a PVP guild though, but I think we should wait until open beta to determine exactly how many people are going to be looking to play so we don't spread thin.
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I voted PvE because PvP servers cater to one audience and only one audience, the griefing asshole. Oh and I guess the people who find excitement out of getting griefed while questing. I use to PvP pretty hardcore, DAoC, AO, Planetside (if that even counts), WoW and a few others were all PvP servers. I came to the realization that now with new features in MMos there is absolutely zero reason to roll on a PvP server. You can PvP just the same on a PvE server with the advantage being you can quest when you want to without getting griefed.
It just isn't fun to be spawn camped for 20 minutes, open world PvP is very rarely fun, usually just an annoyance and hindrance.
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The majority of people who play MMOs have the worst mentality, most people just kill on sight, maybe you got lucky and had a good server but I have never had a decent one and I was in a pretty low pop server in WoW and it made no difference, people still camped, raided and greifed every zone.
I play a lot of game competitively, I have been on a lot of good teams for FPS games, I was in a hardcore raiding guild for WoW (NA first for some AQ boss and ZG I think, its been a long time though, we also helped hold the scepter ransom which was in the news) anyways I have experience with these things, I just don't find it appealing. I play an MMO for the social experience I guess, its the only reason to play an MMO and PvP detracts highly from the fun of it.
Maybe they did that? I heard something about pvp on some planets, which to my recollection was even on pve servers, since the whole point of the planet was pvp? This is from way back though, so that might have changed. That would be great if it made it in, that way I can shoot peoples when I feel like it, and go mine fish when I feel like it.
For every 1 time you stumbled across a huge battle between 50 people on each side and had a great time, other people had 1000 times where they were trying to do a quest and 3 opposing faction members just came along and ganked them for no good reason in a fight that was pointless and not even a challenge.
That's why you're never going to find a successful PvE focused MMO that has more PvP servers than PvE. People want to PvP when they want to, not whenever they stumble across a fight they know they can win, or get stumbled across.
I think this could be cool. Have instanced battlegrounds, but then also have planets that can have large numbers from each side fighting over objectives without a clear end to the battle. You'd know that was the only purpose for going to that planet anyway.
I'll do a big ol' list on the OP of SWTOR account name and PA names when we get a bit closer to beta, so everyone can track down everybody else.
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Hadn't seen "Ewok" used as a replacement for Carebear. Well played sir.
I think you guys are crazy; that said this may float your boat. The WoW PAA guilds (ex-roostaz included) are going PvP East.
http://forums.pa-guilds.org/viewtopic.php?t=32687
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I believe it's a group of all of the guilds which originally rolled on Dark Iron along with the guild that Gabe and Tycho were in, collectively known as the "PA Alliance", hence a lot of people.
Neat I guess, I remember there were lots of overpopulation problems with that server because of that.
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The penny arcade group is down quite a bit in size since the heyday (although there's probably still a thousand or so playing members), and the horde contingent still exists but is functionally nonexistent as a regular foil.
It made world pvp a lot of fun sometimes and helped mitigate the dumb that goes along with being on a pvp server, but it was also a really unique set of circumstances that isn't likely to be duplicated in SWTOR.
There will probably be enough enthusiasm to have pve and pvp server presences, but hell if I'm rolling on a pvp server.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Theoretically, anyway. I honestly would enjoy griefing the snot out of any of the mouth-breathers who post regularly on the official forums about their guilds.
Because it makes no sense
Both WoW and TOR are games set in the middle of a fucking planet/galactic war and there are times when I can't attack an enemy? Fuck that nonsense. This is war!
I think I'll be joining up with the PAA on their PVP server.
Actually, both games are set during tenuous treaty negotiations and truces. Facts!
With that in mind, I personally don't mind only fighting the opposing faction in designated PvP areas or Warzones. It's not completely realistic, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little realism if it helps me enjoy the overall game more. But maybe I should wait to see what Bioware plans to do with open PvP first. <.<
Dear god, it's a fucking game, people! We're fucking talking about space wizards, laser swords and laser guns on a game that hasn't even been released yet. Please don't talk about things making sense or not.
Play the game with the guild....or not. There is no galactic empire keeping you down. Quit acting like you're one step away from singing the MMO blues.
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Fact is anyone who wants to play on a PvP server isn't going to play on a PvE server just because that's what was voted. And to be fair, if PvP had won I doubt everyone who wants a PvE server would have joined up on a PvP one either. I'll admit I wouldn't have.
Honestly, given the fact everyone is either hinting or outright stating they are going on the server type they wanted regardless of the vote, I have to wonder why even bother with a vote in the first place. Having a vote go 60/40 in favor of PvE just means 60% of the people are going to join a PvE server and 40% are going to be annoyed and then make their own guild on a PvP one. That's it. Nobody is going to change their plans because of what other forum posters want.
I mean, I understand the intent was to keep everyone together and be democratic about it, but that's just not a realistic expectation from a loose forum community. Now if we were all part of some close-knit raiding guild from WoW who had known each other for blah blah years, I could see it being expected that everyone would abide by a single vote. Even then it'd be hard to pull off though.
Again, I'd like to say I understand what the intent is behind trying to organize things as devCharles has been doing, but honestly I think even he is already sliding towards nullifying the vote because he was discontent with it. "Gabe might come in and direct the population towards a PvP server"? So basically the vote means nothing if Gabe comes in here and voices his preference different? (mind you I think the chance of Gabe coming in here and commenting are zip).
And that's not meant to insult dev, I'm just saying even the OP is ready to abandon it pretty easily, though I can't say whether it's because he's hoping it gets "changed" to PvP or whether he just wants to see Gabe comment in the forums for once.
And none of this is "bad", it's just human nature. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go roll on an RP server.
So why is there a focus on a single guild this time? Who has the wrong idea about that?
Make. Another. Guild.
Fizban, I do not grief people, but thank you kindly for the incredibly rude insult.
There is this wonderful anti-pvp thing going on in here which is starting to devolve into attributing generalised motivations to the preference that automatically imply negative personal characteristics. This, like all stereotypical discrimination, needs to stop. Right now.
Then you are more charitable than I expect from the average person.
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Read the op.
There are 2 guilds, Empire and Republic, I doubt he could do too many more than that but if there is enough interest I am sure there could be PvP and PvE for both factions.