Im pretty sure there are going to be more people who want to RP in a Star Wars game than WoW simply because Star Wars has been around since 1979 and Warcraft came around in 1994. Id be kinda surprised if there werent people who have been devoted Star Wars fans since the Episode III playing this game (that is to say, I expect there to be some Olds in this game, as opposed to pretty much any other game Ive ever played where Im generally surprised when Im playing and people are telling me that theyre staying up until their teenager comes home, or those awkwardly hilarious moments where parents are telling their kids to go to bed over Vent).
Now that I think about it, I really want to be in a guild of Olds just so I can hear them tell their kids to stop playing and go to bed.
WTF? "OLDS"? I think it's funny you refer to older people like that. I'm out of college, have a job, engaged and I'm sitting here thinking of how nice it is not to play with kids. At PAX a bunch of the people who play LoL went out for drinks Fridaynight. I think it's awesome that we all could go to the bar for drinks.
But I'll give you the point about people with kids. It is funny to have parents dealing with children and forgetting the mic is on.
Here is one thing that i feel hasn't been mentioned in this forum about class issues for the guild. as was stated earlier we have a low amount of some classes, but the way that bio ware set it up ( i know this for a fact from pax) is that you can switch around almost every character can do any job. with small exceptions like that the jedi/sith warrior cant heal. so even if were underrepresented for some classes, we should be fine in terms of raiding successfully due to the loose ended ness of the game
So after reading through some of the posts about PvE vs PvP I understand PvE "won" but why not have Offical PAA guilds on a PvP server as well? In fact Surrender The Cookies (Empire - http://www.swtor.com/guilds/10253/surrender-cookies) is already setup! One of the Annarchy guys set it up opposite Disregard for Canon (Republic - http://www.swtor.com/guilds/12567/disregard-canon) so there would be some friendly rivalry on a PvP server. This game should be big enough to please everyone and we might as well have 2 servers where PAA dominates
Hahaha, I started calling people, typically over the age of 40, Olds when I was in college (I graduated in 2009) but it may have started post graduation. Im definitely closer to the Olds category since Im out of college (although Im currently half way through law school) but I dont meet any of the criteria of actual adults in that I dont have a job, I live with my mom (saving like $15,000+ a year, shit yeah, gotta mitigate the costs of law school somehow, especially since job prospects for lawyers is pretty terrible), and I basically just turned 24, so no offense intended. Besides, I place myself towards the end of the "grown" scale, since Im not self sustaining I cant say Ive completed growing but Im not quite a young.
I'll see how my tolerance of children goes, since I havent really played an MMO since I quit WoW a couple years ago and most of my experience with them has been on Live where most of the time theyre just spewing bullshit. But I have to say, I really like hearing kids beg their parents to extend their bed time so they can finish a raid. For some reason I find family communications conducted over Vent caused by a video game to be hilarious and it generally makes me glad I generally pretend not to have a mic just so people wont hear me laughing.
Well I just got an answer for one of my questions earlier. When I followed yon link to Disregard for Canon, the option to apply to the guild said it would remove me from Remarkable Circumference.
In other words, right now only one guild per account. Otherwise I'd throw toons in all the PA guilds, 'cause seriously, you guys need me.
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Well I just got an answer for one of my questions earlier. When I followed yon link to Disregard for Canon, the option to apply to the guild said it would remove me from Remarkable Circumference.
In other words, right now only one guild per account. Otherwise I'd throw toons in all the PA guilds, 'cause seriously, you guys need me.
PVP or PVE doesn't matter, I always win.
Tiger's blood n all dat.
Yep 1 guild per account, but Bioware has stated you can have multiple accounts to join multiple guilds.
So after reading through some of the posts about PvE vs PvP I understand PvE "won" but why not have Offical PAA guilds on a PvP server as well? In fact Surrender The Cookies (http://www.swtor.com/guilds/10253/surrender-cookies) is already setup! One of the Annarchy guys set it up opposite Disregard for Canon (http://www.swtor.com/guilds/12567/disregard-canon) so there would be some friendly rivalry on a PvP server. This game should be big enough to please everyone and we might as well have 2 servers where PAA dominates
If a forum member here doesn't set up PVP guilds for empire or republic, I'll go with those when we get closer to an open beta as the official PVP guilds.
Yep 1 guild per account, but Bioware has stated you can have multiple accounts to join multiple guilds.
Honestly, I'd hold up on that because we don't know how our accounts are going to be tied into our paying accounts. If you can link your forum accounts under 1 larger paying account without having to pay multiple times, I can see that being useful. Until that's a for sure thing though, I think I'll wait it out.
Well I just got an answer for one of my questions earlier. When I followed yon link to Disregard for Canon, the option to apply to the guild said it would remove me from Remarkable Circumference.
In other words, right now only one guild per account. Otherwise I'd throw toons in all the PA guilds, 'cause seriously, you guys need me.
PVP or PVE doesn't matter, I always win.
Tiger's blood n all dat.
Yep 1 guild per account, but Bioware has stated you can have multiple accounts to join multiple guilds.
Does that mean I could have created multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta? In which case, why didnt I create multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta?
EDIT: And just to clarify, those guilds were set up by the Penny-Arcade Alliance, the Penny-Arcade World of Warcraft guilds?
Does that mean I could have created multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta? In which case, why didnt I create multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta?
EDIT: And just to clarify, those guilds were set up by the Penny-Arcade Alliance, the Penny-Arcade World of Warcraft guilds?
You can indeed create multiple accounts at SWTOR to increase your chances to get into closed beta.
Those SWTOR PVP guilds are set up by guilds that were a part of the Penny Arcade alliance of guilds in WoW on the Dark Iron server.
Yep 1 guild per account, but Bioware has stated you can have multiple accounts to join multiple guilds.
Does that mean I could have created multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta? In which case, why didnt I create multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta?
EDIT: And just to clarify, those guilds were set up by the Penny-Arcade Alliance, the Penny-Arcade World of Warcraft guilds?
Yes, but getting into the beta is something like 10,000 people to 1.5million soooo odds don't improve that much from a certain perspective.
And yes those guilds were setup by PAA WoW members. Having only played WoW with PAA I'm not really aware of a difference.
Yep 1 guild per account, but Bioware has stated you can have multiple accounts to join multiple guilds.
Does that mean I could have created multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta? In which case, why didnt I create multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta?
EDIT: And just to clarify, those guilds were set up by the Penny-Arcade Alliance, the Penny-Arcade World of Warcraft guilds?
Yes, but getting into the beta is something like 10,000 people to 1.5million soooo odds don't improve that much from a certain perspective.
I'm sure plenty of people have created a number of extra accounts to increase their chances of getting into the beta.
Which is pretty depressing. I'm not really willing to do that, and presumably my chances of getting in to beta are diminished because of it.
And yes those guilds were setup by PAA WoW members. Having only played WoW with PAA I'm not really aware of a difference.
I always saw it as PAA guilds being comprised of PA fans that played WoW, while guilds like <Obsidian Spur> etc were comprised of PA fans that played WoW that also posted on these particular boards.
I always saw it as PAA guilds being comprised of PA fans that played WoW, while guilds like <Obsidian Spur> etc were comprised of PA fans that played WoW that also posted on these particular boards.
That's pretty much spot on. Some PAA members posted on the forums (I know I did under a long lost screen name back in 2005,) but mostly it seems like it was just fans of the comic.
That looks like a lot of people, was that the PA guild gabe and tycho were in? Actually I have no idea, were they even in a PA guild?
Yes its the PA "guild" Gabe and Tycho were in years back. Actually multiple guilds because at the time there were too many people. These days its much smaller obviously (100-200 peak maybe?)
I expect PAA presence in SWTOR to be minuscule especially as they are already splitting between factions. Therefore it would be good if the guilds here and the guilds there linked so they'd roll on the same server, but that isn't happening if one is PvE and one is PvP.
However if people here create a PvP alternative, I think it'd be worthwhile to link with those guilds and make sure we're all on the same server.
For whats its worth, as pointless as PvP servers are in WoW, only 13 of the top 50 progression realms are PvE. The rest are PvP.
I always saw it as PAA guilds being comprised of PA fans that played WoW, while guilds like <Obsidian Spur> etc were comprised of PA fans that played WoW that also posted on these particular boards.
That's pretty much spot on. Some PAA members posted on the forums (I know I did under a long lost screen name back in 2005,) but mostly it seems like it was just fans of the comic.
Ah neat, this is a great chance to unite a group of like-minded people then :winky:
I'm going to go out on a crazy limb here and say TOR isn't going to have 10+ million players or whatever it is now at launch.
It's a Star Wars game. It's going to have a lot of people playing it, even if not 10+ million, and I find it rather impropable that it wouldn't have enough people to populate one or two RP-PvP realms.
In general I find the hatred for RP realms on these forums quite odd. Both in this and the Rift thread people talk of them like they're the worst thing ever, when all my experiences point to them being just like any other realms, except you don't (always) get made fun of when you try to roleplay.
I have to agree with this. RP realms are never just everybody running around demanding that everybody RPs and RPing in the general chat. In my experience, a good number of people just choose RP realms because they think the general population of that server will act a bit more mature, and while I have no empirical evidence to that fact, when I played EQ2 it definitely seemed that way.
I don't roleplay at all on games, but if I don't have another reason to join a different server, I always end up playing on the RP servers for that reason.
I'm going to go out on a crazy limb here and say TOR isn't going to have 10+ million players or whatever it is now at launch.
It's a Star Wars game. It's going to have a lot of people playing it, even if not 10+ million, and I find it rather impropable that it wouldn't have enough people to populate one or two RP-PvP realms.
In general I find the hatred for RP realms on these forums quite odd. Both in this and the Rift thread people talk of them like they're the worst thing ever, when all my experiences point to them being just like any other realms, except you don't (always) get made fun of when you try to roleplay.
I have to agree with this. RP realms are never just everybody running around demanding that everybody RPs and RPing in the general chat. In my experience, a good number of people just choose RP realms because they think the general population of that server will act a bit more mature, and while I have no empirical evidence to that fact, when I played EQ2 it definitely seemed that way.
I don't roleplay at all on games, but if I don't have another reason to join a different server, I always end up playing on the RP servers for that reason.
The best part about RP servers are the tighter name restrictions. Given a chance, I would be more than happy to skip interacting with xXx_|>4r+|-|_420_xXx.
That's the thing. I have no problem creating an in-character name and attempting to play the character in a mostly IC way. But official RP servers seem to always take it to a level beyond what I'm interested in. I doubt I will EVER create a detailed character background/backstory
I've never played on a RP server where I felt like it was awkward though. Mostly, it seems like the RP stuff is done in more guild atmospheres. When I joined up with strangers while questing, I rarely dealt with anybody that was ever clearly role playing. I suppose with ventrilo now, being party to in group RP is even less common if you don't want to deal with it.
There are always creepy people, but I find most RP MMO servers to be very casual in a general way. RPing in a MMO is way different than, for example, larping.
The first time you log in to the server your guild has been placed on with a character, that character will be asked if they would like to join that guild. If that character accepts and joins the guild, no further characters you create on that server with your account will be prompted. Your guild leader or officers will be able to invite additional characters from your account to the guild later.
You can join one guild per each Star Wars: The Old Republic website account. You can only apply to one guild at a time with your account, but you may change your current application to another guild or leave your current guild at any time and apply to another. This limit only applies to the Pre-Launch Guild Program. In the live game, you will be able to join multiple guilds. Any of the characters you create can join other guilds.
So, it looks like the current restrictions are in-place, so they can gather metrics about guild numbers, class population etc to anticipate the initial volume of players, which will probably ease the forthcoming stages, such as aligning for/against other guilds, as they'll have definitive numbers to populate the servers with. Once everything is up and running, they'll loosen up the shackles...not that this will deter the likelihood of a day 1 server-wide meltdown.
If I don't get into wacky adventures with my guildmates and one of you is NOT a cute female redhead in the vein of Felicia Day then I'm out. Either I'm brushing her hair or I say GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
If I don't get into wacky adventures with my guildmates and one of you is NOT a cute female redhead in the vein of Felicia Day then I'm out. Either I'm brushing her hair or I say GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
A guy's got to have standards.
Well my trooper is gonna be a chick. Dunno about being redhead though. And I dunno if I want to roleplay fulfilling your fantasies.
Btw. What was with all that damn guild drama in the last few pages. If this game is a big as EA wants it to be then you have nothing to worry about, there will be several guilds across several server types. And if its not that big then you probably won't be playing it or at least playing it long enough for it to matter.
It was less guild drama and more PVP vs. PVE arguments. I steadfastly refuse to have guild drama before the game is released.
By the way, it's been like 8 days since I sent that note to Bioware about the guild name. If they don't get back to me by the 10th day, I'll just create a new guild.
I made a night elf hunter in WoW just to see if there was a difference in how people treat you, there definitely is.
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I have no qualms about rolling ethier gender in MMOs and usually roll equal balances of both.
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I usually make female characters because they look better. I like slender and agile-looking characters much more than brutish muscle monsters, and unfortunately most games only let you make male characters that look like the latter.
My girlfriend will be rolling a female Jedi Consular. It'll be her first subscription MMO. I don't know whether or not I should warn her about the kind of shenanigans that go on in MMOs or let her figure them out as she goes.
I saw the SWTOR forum had a demographics poll and it was like 98% guys.
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WTF? "OLDS"? I think it's funny you refer to older people like that. I'm out of college, have a job, engaged and I'm sitting here thinking of how nice it is not to play with kids. At PAX a bunch of the people who play LoL went out for drinks Fridaynight. I think it's awesome that we all could go to the bar for drinks.
But I'll give you the point about people with kids. It is funny to have parents dealing with children and forgetting the mic is on.
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I'll see how my tolerance of children goes, since I havent really played an MMO since I quit WoW a couple years ago and most of my experience with them has been on Live where most of the time theyre just spewing bullshit. But I have to say, I really like hearing kids beg their parents to extend their bed time so they can finish a raid. For some reason I find family communications conducted over Vent caused by a video game to be hilarious and it generally makes me glad I generally pretend not to have a mic just so people wont hear me laughing.
In other words, right now only one guild per account. Otherwise I'd throw toons in all the PA guilds, 'cause seriously, you guys need me.
PVP or PVE doesn't matter, I always win.
Tiger's blood n all dat.
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Yep 1 guild per account, but Bioware has stated you can have multiple accounts to join multiple guilds.
If a forum member here doesn't set up PVP guilds for empire or republic, I'll go with those when we get closer to an open beta as the official PVP guilds.
Honestly, I'd hold up on that because we don't know how our accounts are going to be tied into our paying accounts. If you can link your forum accounts under 1 larger paying account without having to pay multiple times, I can see that being useful. Until that's a for sure thing though, I think I'll wait it out.
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Does that mean I could have created multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta? In which case, why didnt I create multiple accounts to increase my chance of getting into the closed beta?
EDIT: And just to clarify, those guilds were set up by the Penny-Arcade Alliance, the Penny-Arcade World of Warcraft guilds?
You can indeed create multiple accounts at SWTOR to increase your chances to get into closed beta.
Those SWTOR PVP guilds are set up by guilds that were a part of the Penny Arcade alliance of guilds in WoW on the Dark Iron server.
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Yes, but getting into the beta is something like 10,000 people to 1.5million soooo odds don't improve that much from a certain perspective.
And yes those guilds were setup by PAA WoW members. Having only played WoW with PAA I'm not really aware of a difference.
I'm sure plenty of people have created a number of extra accounts to increase their chances of getting into the beta.
Which is pretty depressing. I'm not really willing to do that, and presumably my chances of getting in to beta are diminished because of it.
I always saw it as PAA guilds being comprised of PA fans that played WoW, while guilds like <Obsidian Spur> etc were comprised of PA fans that played WoW that also posted on these particular boards.
That's pretty much spot on. Some PAA members posted on the forums (I know I did under a long lost screen name back in 2005,) but mostly it seems like it was just fans of the comic.
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I expect PAA presence in SWTOR to be minuscule especially as they are already splitting between factions. Therefore it would be good if the guilds here and the guilds there linked so they'd roll on the same server, but that isn't happening if one is PvE and one is PvP.
However if people here create a PvP alternative, I think it'd be worthwhile to link with those guilds and make sure we're all on the same server.
For whats its worth, as pointless as PvP servers are in WoW, only 13 of the top 50 progression realms are PvE. The rest are PvP.
Ah neat, this is a great chance to unite a group of like-minded people then :winky:
I have to agree with this. RP realms are never just everybody running around demanding that everybody RPs and RPing in the general chat. In my experience, a good number of people just choose RP realms because they think the general population of that server will act a bit more mature, and while I have no empirical evidence to that fact, when I played EQ2 it definitely seemed that way.
I don't roleplay at all on games, but if I don't have another reason to join a different server, I always end up playing on the RP servers for that reason.
No offense to anyone, but Star Wars weddings.
Thankfully Bioware made a place for all those weirdos to go so I can easily avoid them by not rolling on an RP server.
but we can only join one guild per account? Something's not sounding right unless i'm missing something.
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The best part about RP servers are the tighter name restrictions. Given a chance, I would be more than happy to skip interacting with xXx_|>4r+|-|_420_xXx.
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I'm stuck in IC/OOC Limbo, I guess.
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There are always creepy people, but I find most RP MMO servers to be very casual in a general way. RPing in a MMO is way different than, for example, larping.
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Edit - And I intend to be in-character too. Jedi players can expect sass from my Trooper.
So, it looks like the current restrictions are in-place, so they can gather metrics about guild numbers, class population etc to anticipate the initial volume of players, which will probably ease the forthcoming stages, such as aligning for/against other guilds, as they'll have definitive numbers to populate the servers with. Once everything is up and running, they'll loosen up the shackles...not that this will deter the likelihood of a day 1 server-wide meltdown.
I'll stick my saber where the sun don't shine if you fail to hold aggro on that mynock.
Should be fun in raids.
A guy's got to have standards.
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Well my trooper is gonna be a chick. Dunno about being redhead though. And I dunno if I want to roleplay fulfilling your fantasies.
By the way, it's been like 8 days since I sent that note to Bioware about the guild name. If they don't get back to me by the 10th day, I'll just create a new guild.
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Although his toon, of course, will be a woman.
I'll probably roll a dude though.
I have no qualms about rolling ethier gender in MMOs and usually roll equal balances of both.
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I saw the SWTOR forum had a demographics poll and it was like 98% guys.
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