Sooooo... Somebody attepmted to murder my Congresswoman today...
How was your day?
Consumed by it. It's as if the entire incident had been handwritten by some celestial scriptwriter to generate as much grief as humanly possible: a member of Congress who had just survived (survived... such a loaded word) a highly contentious election against half-crazed opposition shot in the head at point-blank range; the member of Congress married to an astronaut; one of her aides dead, a federal judge dead, a 9-year-old girl born on 9/11 and active in student government dead; the shooter having a reading list that includes the Communist Manifesto and Main Kampf. The fact that it happened at a town-hall meeting. The fact that, when the House read the Constitution on the floor, she was given the First Amendment, the part that addresses peaceable assembly and redress of grievances. The fact that Giffords actually appears on her way to recovering from a bullet to the brain. It's an overwhelming amount of emotional angst, topped with the most tragic of miracles.
There are tears right now forming that know they want to express something, but can't decide what they want to express most.
That's a pretty fair assessment. I guess the only thing I have to add is that I've been ghosting this forum for several months now, and that this tragedy is the thing that finally got me off the fence. I would post this in the thread dedicated to the incident, but that thread has been closed due to stupid shit. I feel the need to point out to all who have been speculating about this event that, while this person is clearly crazy, he did not act apart from the social context that we in Southern Arizona find ourselves in. The fact of the matter is that, while this guy is crazy, he is not separate from the social context of Southern Arizona, and that that context is that the evil Democrat is out to destroy all that Arizona holds dear and must be stopped. To pretend that this is a unique incident is a horrifying whitewashing of the political climate of Arizona. This did not need to happen, and would not have happened if the Republican (Jesse Kelly) in the most recent election had won. I should have woken up to an uneventful Saturday, but that didn't happen.
am i misreading this or are you saying that the attempted assassination of the "evil democrat" was justified because the republican candidate didn't win the election?
edit: i think i must be misreading this. you're characterizing the political attitude in arizona's eighth in your post?
right?
I'm pretty sure he's saying "motherfucker is crazy, but at least part of that crazy is the fault of the teabaggers."
So yes, you're reading that wrong.
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratormod
What he's trying to say is that the political viciousness (particularly in the firebrand tea party in AZ) contributed heavily to the events that happened
specifically dems probably wouldn't have attempted to shoot kelly if he had won
having lived in west texas in the clinton years, this strikes me as a reasonable assumption. there is something about the culture of the southwest i think. maybe it's a holdover from frontier days or something.
He's saying the clearly rational and clear-thinking attacker, who is in no way a paranoid schizophrenic if his alleged youtube account is any indication, wouldn't have gone after the Republican if the Republican won.
Lets bring the same misrepresentations of the other's arguments from the locked thread to [chat]. Maybe follow up this post with the suggestion he's blaming the Republican party for the death of a nine year old girl.
The first time I skim read his post I did a double take as I sort of got the interpretation Will got, then I reread as that interpretation would be a truly insane comment
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edited January 2011
yeah okay let's not start this debate in the chat thread. sorry i encouraged it.
someone can start a new thread about this stuff tomorrow when we've had a little more time to gather information and reflect
it's really a sad, tragic thing
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edited January 2011
I'm installing Metro 2033, it will be very scary but I am excited.
So it turns out the George Foreman makes a pretty passable hamburger.
nothing wrong with the foreman grill, really
it's not great for getting a good seared crust on a steak or burger, but it's a quick, easy and economical way to cook a chop or burger.
yeah I mean the fairly slight difference in quality is very easily offset by the massive convenience. and that I was able to grill a burger in my pajamas while it's 22 outside.
I should really be getting dressed and packing ready to head to London Village. Yeah, I'll get right on that.
Where you going?
I sometimes miss London.
Especially Camden and sort of New Oxford Street/Holborn.
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I figure I could take a bear.
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edited January 2011
I watched the first section of Helloweens LP of it, and it looked really cool. Unfortunately I scare easily, but it's daylight a couple of hours a day so...
I bought the THQ pack so I got STALKER now as well, to try later.
I should really be getting dressed and packing ready to head to London Village. Yeah, I'll get right on that.
Cesca assures me that she is getting ready, and that the fact that she appears to be lounging about in a dressing gown is the result of some kind of optical illusion.
Those bats are pretty awesome. The ranger is pretty cute too. Double win really.
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edited January 2011
i don't own a foreman grill, but used an old sandwich press when i was in college, which is essentially the same thing minus the foreman branding. it was handy, especially when i didn't have an actual stove.
now i am at a point in my life where i need to keep kitchen gadgets to a minimum so that i actually have room for stuff i need in my kitchen, so no foreman or sandwich press, even though they are cool for some things.
I should really be getting dressed and packing ready to head to London Village. Yeah, I'll get right on that.
Cesca assures me that she is getting ready, and that the fact that she appears to be lounging about in a dressing gown is the result of some kind of optical illusion.
This completely and utterly true. It's all an illusion. Honest.
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it is kind of a magic bullet for single dudes cooking for one. between it and a rice cooker you can make real food without spending all night on one meal. the difference in how I eat now versus the years of PB&J and ramen is vast.
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I'm pretty sure he's saying "motherfucker is crazy, but at least part of that crazy is the fault of the teabaggers."
So yes, you're reading that wrong.
having lived in west texas in the clinton years, this strikes me as a reasonable assumption. there is something about the culture of the southwest i think. maybe it's a holdover from frontier days or something.
and so easy to ignore
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
someone can start a new thread about this stuff tomorrow when we've had a little more time to gather information and reflect
it's really a sad, tragic thing
There is nothing artificial about human stupidity. Except trolls.
It's a good game. Basically Eastern-European Half-Life 2 with a Stalker theme.
nothing wrong with the foreman grill, really
it's not great for getting a good seared crust on a steak or burger, but it's a quick, easy and economical way to cook a chop or burger.
That grill is supremely wonderful
And you can drink the grease afterwards! :rotate:
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
yeah I mean the fairly slight difference in quality is very easily offset by the massive convenience. and that I was able to grill a burger in my pajamas while it's 22 outside.
Where you going?
I sometimes miss London.
Especially Camden and sort of New Oxford Street/Holborn.
I bought the THQ pack so I got STALKER now as well, to try later.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
my face from my eyes to my chin is dried out and beet red and irritated from all the runny nose
god
fucking put me out of my misery
Says the guy with a Gengar avatar!
No where interesting. Just heading down to New Malden to stay with a friend overnight before going to a training day at the NT Studio tomorrow.
They look like cheap toys more than real animals.
Cesca assures me that she is getting ready, and that the fact that she appears to be lounging about in a dressing gown is the result of some kind of optical illusion.
now i am at a point in my life where i need to keep kitchen gadgets to a minimum so that i actually have room for stuff i need in my kitchen, so no foreman or sandwich press, even though they are cool for some things.
Hey man, I fucking loved my George Foreman Grill freshman year
(I just found it amusing that everyone just rose up in unison in support of the grill)
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
how do I stretch those
what can be done
This completely and utterly true. It's all an illusion. Honest.
you know, theraflu used to be amazing. if you had a head or chest cold and took that shit, you would feel relaxed and great within 15 minutes.
then they changed the formula because of the meth/ pseudoephedrine thing, and now it does not work for shit.
the last time i had a bad cold i just straight up suffered for like two weeks
so you have my sympathies dude
Grab a hold of something like a doorframe, one hand on each side. Then put your feet pretty close to the doorframe and lean backwards.
That doesn't help if you actually stuff to do unfortunately.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
well seriously
it is kind of a magic bullet for single dudes cooking for one. between it and a rice cooker you can make real food without spending all night on one meal. the difference in how I eat now versus the years of PB&J and ramen is vast.