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Shorter Essays

NyahNyah Registered User regular
edited February 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
I've a rather odd assignment due in the near future. I suppose it isn't all that odd, considering it's causing me some trouble so I've apparently a lot to learn here.

It's a short essay, a comparison of two historical documents. To be precise, it's a paltry 700-800 words. I thought this was going to be easy, as I'm used to 4500-5000 word essays.

It's not. I literally do not have enough words to fit everything I'd like into this project.

Anyone with experience in the Social Sciences/Humanities like to give me a couple tips? Can I "dumb down" my language to be more concise? General themes I should focus on?

It's the first essay I'm writing for this prof, so I've no prior experience to styles he'd prefer and whatnot, so general tips are best.

(If anyone cares, the documents are Burns' Intellectuals as Agents of Change, and Schultz's Crisis of Empire. But I doubt anyone cares)

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Well, not sure I can give any tips. I'm a naturally concise writer and the last time I had a limit under 1000 words it was a struggle. What I ended up doing was asking the teacher how strict he was going to be on the limit and got the ok to go over. Basically, he just didn't want to read a bunch of 10 page essays, so he set a really low limit. Asking your teacher if it's ok you go over and maybe even getting to the point that you feel it is done so you can say "mine is currently X words, would that be ok?" is what I'm going to recommend you do, too.

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  • MothercruncherMothercruncher __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    Brevity is the soul of wit.

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  • MunroMunro Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Very short advice.

    What would probably help is starting with an outline. Get short, concise statements about what is alike and what isn't and flesh those out into entire sentences. Try to look for the biggest similarities and differences and cover those very well, I doubt he expects you to go very in-depth in only 800 words so don't try and cram everything in there because I doubt it can be done. Good luck.

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  • NyahNyah Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Brevity is the soul of wit.

    Are you trying to be pithy? What pointless advice...

    I going to rewrite my outline while I make myself some dinner.
    Hopefully I'll be able to cut it down.

    Asking for a lax limit is also out of the question, as one of the prof's stated goals is to make us pick and choose what is really significant of this article.

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  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    When I have this problem, I usually find I'm being too descriptive with certain things. Remember your prof is expecting a short essay -- that means you can cut back on how descriptive and thorough you usually are. Identify the absolute most important things (the outline will help) and focus solely on those. Leave out anything not absolutely crucial to your essay.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Easy concentrate on your TEDS.

    That is. Topic, example, discusion, summary.

    Make you sure none of sentances are wasted material.

    Also write out a plan of what topics you want. Each topic should be around 100-120 words. This gives you 4 to 5 topics. This lets you choose the big ones. Then use your reamining words (around 200) and split them for your intro and conclusion.

    The important thing is to look at each paragraph after you write it and ask yourself. "Is this sentance dead weight?"

    Also check to see if quotations are included in the word count. They usually aren't but if you are number critical it's best to make sure.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Write your essay longish, about 1500 words. Then edit, chop, and pare down your ideas and thoughts to be precise and to the point.

    Having the gift of the gab on the page can be a blessing and a curse. It's easy to write long essays, but they can often be rambling with little point. Having a short, concise essay allows you to focus and forces you to bring out your important points without beating around the bush.

    I'm older and trained in writing technically, so a lot of my 1st draft is already past the first filter stage. But I still write more than I need to just to get the ideas out in front of me, and then chop and slice and combine. Believe me, it's a LOT easier to write more and then edit, than it is to magically come up with more.

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  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    First, how many points are you trying to make? It's perfectly fine just to have two general support paragraphs for your thesis (rather than three, or five, or whatever).

    Decide on two things, leave it at that, and then write as you naturally would. Then go back and cut out what is unnecessary.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I'm with the person that suggested writing out your essay, then editing.
    I faced the same problems before, and when I do this I notice that I add alot of stuff that can be taken out or at the least edited.

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I agree with the people who suggested writing your essay a bit long, then cutting, cutting, cutting.

    If you leave yourself enough time to do the editing, you shouldn't have any difficulties.

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  • blanknogoblanknogo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Writing concisely is definitely a very difficult technique to master, but ultimately very rewarding. It does not involve "dumbing down" any language, but rather careful editing to ensure that each and every sentence has significance. The above comments of writing a longer piece and then cutting it down is excellent advice; be sure to leave ample time for revision and editing.

    And to end it off, a quote:
    "I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead." Mark Twain

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  • ReitenReiten Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    First, remember that he's read the documents in question, so you don't need to describe, repeat or summarize the documents. Analyze (not compare/summarize) one or two key similarities or differences (what's important about them) and leave it at that. That's what you're really being asked to do.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Nyah wrote:
    Brevity is the soul of wit.

    Are you trying to be pithy? What pointless advice...

    I going to rewrite my outline while I make myself some dinner.
    Hopefully I'll be able to cut it down.

    Asking for a lax limit is also out of the question, as one of the prof's stated goals is to make us pick and choose what is really significant of this article.

    wowowowow, i bet you get all the ladies.

    anyways duder, he's right. i'm a senior history major, and i've typed up a ton of these kind of essays. 700-800 words isn't that much to work with, so don't use flowery language like "pithy" or superfluous words like "superfluous". keep reminding yourself it's a history paper, not prose, so what you're going for is clarity above all else.

    basically you've got 4 pages to work with, double spaced, so your paper structure should probably look something like this:

    1. an introduction that both introduces both documents in their historical context and also states your thesis (if you want a good historical paper, you should come up with an argument as to why you feel the way you do. there's no debating this. in a comparison paper it doesn't have to be anything groundbreaking, obviously, but you should state how, why, and in what context you are comparing the two documents)

    2. a few paragraphs that VERY briefly summarize and then analyze the content of the first document in the parameters that you set in your thesis. for instance, if you claim that both document A and document B are similar because they were both written by authors with a military background in a time of war, that's how you'll want to examine the first document (of course, your thesis doesn't have to be about how they are similar, it can be about virtually anything, just as long as you have one that puts both documents in the same context).

    3. a few paragraphs analyzing the second document, as above, except you'll want to include elements from the first document.

    4. overall analysis of your thesis using evidence from the two documents to support it.

    5. conclusion



    honestly, in a bare bones essay, you should be able to do all that in 4-5 pages. you say you have a hard time making an essay short, but really, if you can't fit all that you want in, you need to start thinking about what information is most relevant to your argument and what isn't.

    also, if it's just a short essay like this, i'm pretty sure your history prof isn't going to get all worked up about it. just remember:

    BE CLEAR

    BE CONCISE

    CITE YOUR SHIT (never, ever, EVER let an idea or theme go uncited; you probably already know this, but use MLA style for the shorter history papers, Turabian style for the longer ones)



    finally, history paper writing is never some easy peasy crap you can breeze through. always remember that you're trying to make an argument, and the best way to do that is include good bits of relevant information and to be as clear and concise as possible.

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  • ChopperDaveChopperDave Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If you're having trouble by the length, my high school English/History teachers would swear by the "three-prong" style. Make your thesis have three distinct branches ("America entered WWII because of this, this, and this"), elaborate on each prong in its own body paragraph, then conclude. That's a good, short essay right there.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If you're having trouble by the length, my high school English/History teachers would swear by the "three-prong" style. Make your thesis have three distinct branches ("America entered WWII because of this, this, and this"), elaborate on each prong in its own body paragraph, then conclude. That's a good, short essay right there.

    Exactly. 700 words is Intro, 3 Points, and a Conclusion. The tendency is to over explain your points, creating more verbage than is needed. Or rather, my tendency. This goes in with everyone else saying write just a bit more then you need and parse it back.

    Edit: Also, if you'd like a hand, pm me the lot, I will gladly bitchslap it until it fits neatly in the palm of your hand.

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  • NyahNyah Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I eventually took out most of the descriptive part of my essay, and focused on the actual review part of the paper.
    I went through the paper a few times, rewriting sentences to get it the most concise possible.
    I think it turned out quite well, though very packed. I don't feel as if I had enough explanation of my analysis, though most of the thing I've excluded are fairly obvious connections.

    Annnndd....
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    Thanks for the advice everyone, it helped.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Most setences can easily be cut in half. Re-read all the sentences you write and eleiminate unneccessay phrases and clauses. I'd suggest reading The Elements of Style by E.B. White. it has some great directions on how to write clearyly and simply

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  • Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Most setences can easily be cut in half. Re-read all the sentences you write and eleiminate unneccessay phrases and clauses. I'd suggest reading The Elements of Style by E.B. White. it has some great directions on how to write clearyly and simply
    Elements of Style is a great resource for writing concisely, and you can read it online here.

    I also had a lecturer in university who had us write incredibly short essays, and he swore by Richard Lanham's "Paramedic Method". There's an overview here that should get you started.

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