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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Okay, this is far, far funny enough to justify the double post:
    Just a couple of days after the company started catching heat for ripping off Twisted Pixel's Splosion Man with iPhone clone MaXplosion, Capcom (which previously passed on the opportunity to publish the game) has released an official statement to Joystiq about the situation.

    Capcom admits that its console team met with Twisted Pixel, but says that Capcom Mobile (the group behind MaXplosion) had no knowledge of those meetings. "Nonetheless," the statement read, "we are saddened by this situation and hope to rebuild the trust of our fans and friends in the gaming community."

    We asked for some clarification -- specifically about whether Capcom was "saddened" enough to pull the game from the App Store -- but were shut down. Check out Capcom's full statement to us after the break.

    "While Twisted Pixel did have discussions with our console game team about publishing 'Splosion Man' on game consoles, Capcom Mobile is a different division of Capcom with separate offices and as such, had no prior knowledge of any meetings between the console game team and Twisted Pixel. 'MaXplosion' was developed independently by Capcom Mobile. Nonetheless, we are saddened by this situation and hope to rebuild the trust of our fans and friends in the gaming community."

    http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/13/capcom-saddened-by-maxplosion-situation/

    Wow. Just.... wow.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    And just like Deep Space Nine was announced after Paramount turned down J. Michael Straczynski's pitch, there is absolutely no connection between them.

    You'd be a fool and a communist to make one.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Mega Man stole Splosion Man's power! :shock:

    "You got, Splosion Grenade!"

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The proper solution is for Twisted Pixel to create a blatant Mega Man ripoff and release it on the App Store.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lunker wrote: »
    The proper solution is for Twisted Pixel to create a blatant Mega Man ripoff and release it on the App Store.


    :^:

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Has Sony learned anything from the PSP? Other than UMD being bad, nope!
    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/42499/PSP2-as-powerful-as-PS3-set-for-Q4-launch
    The new PSP is expected to arrive within the Q4 period, perhaps as early as October, and includes a HD screen with twin-stick controls in the familiar ‘brick’ form factor.

    Sony has already consulted publishers about launch timings and the first wave of games.

    It is specifically requesting richer, more in-depth content to differentiate its device from app-centric Apple and Android devices.

    Plus, securing HD handheld games will help build launch excitement amongst publishers, developers and consumers over the next nine months.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    The proper solution is for Twisted Pixel to create a blatant Mega Man ripoff and release it on the App Store.


    :^:

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  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    I can't wait to not see what games sold well this month. :?

    High numbers for anything involving dancing and modern warfare is what I forsee. Black Ops will probably have well over 10 million combined with November further cementing it as an extremely safe and exploitable franchise that effortlessly manages to surpass yet another amazing threshold of blah blah blah in sales.

    I just hope that Donkey Kong Country Returns did really well as its one of the more exciting games of the last few months and is really amazing at that. I'm going to take a guess at it selling around 650k myself. With any luck we'll see games like Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Red Dead Redemption sneak back into the charts as well.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Couscous wrote: »
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    The proper solution is for Twisted Pixel to create a blatant Mega Man ripoff and release it on the App Store.


    :^:

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    Boulder Man.

    You're right, mine sounds more like a Ubisoft game. :P

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Rehab wrote: »
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    I can't wait to not see what games sold well this month. :?

    High numbers for anything involving dancing and modern warfare is what I forsee. Black Ops will probably have well over 10 million combined with November further cementing it as an extremely safe and exploitable franchise that effortlessly manages to surpass yet another amazing threshold of blah blah blah in sales.

    I just hope that Donkey Kong Country Returns did really well as its one of the more exciting games of the last few months and is really amazing at that. I'm going to take a guess at it selling around 650k myself. With any luck we'll see games like Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Red Dead Redemption sneak back into the charts as well.

    On the one hand, the top Nintendo games do get a sales bump over Christmas. And while DKC returns was released in November, it could have a long enough tail to show up in December's charts.

    On the other, the NPD's new strategy of lumping in multiplatform games as one sales figure works against system exclusives. So we might not see Mario Kart DS show up again. :P

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Rehab wrote: »
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    I can't wait to not see what games sold well this month. :?

    High numbers for anything involving dancing and modern warfare is what I forsee. Black Ops will probably have well over 10 million combined with November further cementing it as an extremely safe and exploitable franchise that effortlessly manages to surpass yet another amazing threshold of blah blah blah in sales.

    I just hope that Donkey Kong Country Returns did really well as its one of the more exciting games of the last few months and is really amazing at that. I'm going to take a guess at it selling around 650k myself. With any luck we'll see games like Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Red Dead Redemption sneak back into the charts as well.

    On the one hand, the top Nintendo games do get a sales bump over Christmas. And while DKC returns was released in November, it could have a long enough tail to show up in December's charts.

    On the other, the NPD's new strategy of lumping in multiplatform games as one sales figure works against system exclusives. So we might not see Mario Kart DS show up again. :P


    That was the plan the whole time!

    Companies were tired of being whomped by several year old DS games. :lol:

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/42527/GameStop-wants-to-sell-directly-on-XBLPSN
    Retailer hopes to link to user's console accounts; Says it sells as many XBL and PSN points as Microsoft and Sony

    As bricks and mortar looks to increase its digital footprint, GameStop has outlined plans to begin selling content directly into customer's Xbox Live and PlayStation Network accounts.

    It would work by linking a user's GameStop ID to their XBL and PSN accounts. The content would then be downloaded automatically when the machine is later turned on.

    Though some may laugh off the idea of retail being a necessary or wanted part in a purchase that can easily be made directly through consoles themselves, the retailer claims that it sells as many, if not more, Microsoft Points and PSN Payment cards as Microsoft and Sony themselves.

    "We have been a huge seller of those points in the marketplace," GameStop's senior vice president and general manager of digital Shawn Freeman told Ars Technica.

    "As I understand it, we're neck and neck, or we sell even more, than they sell directly through Xbox Live or the PlayStation Network. Which speaks to our access to gamers who care about playing those games.

    "Today you pick the card up off the rack that's associated with that map pack, we ring it up as part of your transaction in the store, and then we give you the code that allows you go home and [access the content].

    "Ultimately, we want to reduce even more of that friction, so when you buy that map pack in our store, we're going to be able to associate your Xbox profile with your GameStop profile, and then automatically push that to your download queue.

    "We're the ones that do a great job of helping consumers understand what their opportunities and options are for playing games. By providing an opportunity for our sales associate to sell the games themselves to consumers, we can drive more of those sales."

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  • DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    There's some benefit to being able to pay cash at a store, rather than needing a credit card.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Darian wrote: »
    There's some benefit to being able to pay cash at a store, rather than needing a credit card.
    It does seem like a more secure, safer choice: you always hear about iTunes accounts getting hacked, and the big recent PS3 hack demonstrates that the videogame companies probably won't do much better at protecting our credit cards as things go more and more toward digital distribution (and thus become a more attractive target for hackers, I mean.)

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  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Certainly there will be even more impressive sales charting streaks seen when Mario Kart and New Super Mario Bros come out in the casual aweing fanfare that is 3D!

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I imagine Gamestop selling a lot of point cards would be a result of:

    A - People without credit cards (particularly children)
    B - People buying gifts for others
    C - People with Gamestop credit

    And with that said, I really hope that Gamestop's attempts to get further involved in digital transactions fail miserably. One of the major benefits of digital distribution is that it cuts out retailers, thus giving the publishers & developers more money.

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  • DritzDritz CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    To return to parental controls for just a second they are pretty easy to get around to. If you know the date you can generate a master Wii code to change the settings. Not sure if it's the same with the PS3 and 360.

    Re: PSP2, there may be a small chance they can still compete on battery life so there's that going for them I guess.

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dritz wrote: »
    To return to parental controls for just a second they are pretty easy to get around to. If you know the date you can generate a master Wii code to change the settings. Not sure if it's the same with the PS3 and 360.

    Re: PSP2, there may be a small chance they can still compete on battery life so there's that going for them I guess.

    Sadly, battery life doesn't fit into the average person's purchasing decisions until they're on the road or in an airport and their shit just dies.

    Unless they have some crazy high battery life, it won't matter.

    Price is the big place to compete. Some sort of shit crazy feature we don't know about will be the other.

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I imagine Gamestop selling a lot of point cards would be a result of:

    A - People without credit cards (particularly children)
    B - People buying gifts for others
    C - People with Gamestop credit

    And with that said, I really hope that Gamestop's attempts to get further involved in digital transactions fail miserably. One of the major benefits of digital distribution is that it cuts out retailers, thus giving the publishers & developers more money.

    I don't see their involvement as a bad thing. If anything, that's yet another venue people can use to buy digital titles.

    If anything, you guys should see if you can get indie game packs sold at gamestop or something :D

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  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Mini Blu-ray disks so you can watch HD movies on the go!

    Whatever their big secret feature is I hope its not the rumored touch screen that is on the back of the system. That just sounds awkward as hell.

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    You know what we've been sorely lacking recently? A console shortage. Fortunately Microsoft's stepping up to the plate:
    According to Xbox 360 hype man Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb, Microsoft isn't expecting to "win" December's hardware sales battle, as depicted in the NPD's monthly report (to be released later today). "I found out we ran out of consoles at the end of the month," Hryb tweeted, with a follow-up that added, "Jan/Feb supply is tight as well."

    That said, he's anticipating "likely amazing YOY [year-over-year] growth numbers for Xbox." In non-business speak, that means he's expecting last month's Xbox 360 hardware sales to have surpassed the figure recorded in December 2009. While that would mean more than 1.31 million Xboxes were sold in the final month of 2010, if Hryb's prediction is correct, it would also mark the second year in a row that the Xbox was bested by Sony's PlayStation 3 in one of the year's most important sales months.

    http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/13/major-nelson-xbox-360-sold-out-in-dec-supply-tight-now/

    Though to be fair, if the estimates of huge Dec. 360 sales are anywhere close to being accurate, the shortage is kinda understandable.

    How does the 360 not winning Christmas mean that the PS3 sold more? There's a third console in the race, one that has outsold the 360 before...?

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Darlan wrote: »
    Darian wrote: »
    There's some benefit to being able to pay cash at a store, rather than needing a credit card.
    It does seem like a more secure, safer choice: you always hear about iTunes accounts getting hacked, and the big recent PS3 hack demonstrates that the videogame companies probably won't do much better at protecting our credit cards as things go more and more toward digital distribution (and thus become a more attractive target for hackers, I mean.)

    Oh shit, it never occured to me... but the nature of the hacking means people could develop PS3 malware to farm for credit card info, couldn't they.

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    plufim wrote: »
    Oh shit, it never occured to me... but the nature of the hacking means people could develop PS3 malware to farm for credit card info, couldn't they.

    If you choose to download something related to the hack...yes. This has been status quo for hacks for a long time.

    If you download a torrent of a game, there's always a chance you'll get something you don't want.

    But no, they can't just magically put stuff on your PS3.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    plufim wrote: »
    Oh shit, it never occured to me... but the nature of the hacking means people could develop PS3 malware to farm for credit card info, couldn't they.

    If you choose to download something related to the hack...yes. This has been status quo for hacks for a long time.

    If you download a torrent of a game, there's always a chance you'll get something you don't want.

    But no, they can't just magically put stuff on your PS3.

    Yeah, I understand that. But in my head, there is a magical barrier between PC and consoles in terms of safety that is crumbling. Someone could release homebrew with a little something extra added in. Heck, would it not be possible for something to sneak onto the PS3 through the inbuilt web browser?
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    There's a third console in the race, one that has outsold the 360 before...?

    Third console? Hmmm.. nope, can't think of one! Certainly not one that sold, what, 2 million units just the month prior.

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    From Twitter:
    According to NPD figures provided by MS, they sold 1.9 million 360s in December.

    December '09 MS sold 1.31 million units. So they're up YoY by 45%.

    Edit: The same twitter account (an IGN writer) claims that only MS made YoY gains. Looking at numbers from last year, that means the Wii sold less than 3.81 million and the PS3 less than 1.36 million. (How much less remains to be seen, I guess.)

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    plufim wrote: »
    Darlan wrote: »
    Darian wrote: »
    There's some benefit to being able to pay cash at a store, rather than needing a credit card.
    It does seem like a more secure, safer choice: you always hear about iTunes accounts getting hacked, and the big recent PS3 hack demonstrates that the videogame companies probably won't do much better at protecting our credit cards as things go more and more toward digital distribution (and thus become a more attractive target for hackers, I mean.)

    Oh shit, it never occured to me... but the nature of the hacking means people could develop PS3 malware to farm for credit card info, couldn't they.

    Distribution would still be a problem. Someone would have to generate, and keep open for anyone's use, an alternative to PSN.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ah, I see. Because people with CFW are very unlikely to connect to PSN (and are likely to be banned), then there wouldn't be any details to snoop on. Fair enough! Now I can remove my tinfoil hat.

    edit: ten minutes to NPD, right?

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    December NPD.
    December 2010 Top 10 Games (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC)
    Call of Duty: Black Ops** (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC) 1 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
    Just Dance 2 (Wii) 2 UBISOFT
    World of Warcraft: Cataclysm** (PC) 3 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
    Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood** (360, PS3) 4 UBISOFT
    Donkey Kong Country Returns (Wii) 5 NINTENDO
    Disney Epic Mickey** (Wii) 6 DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
    Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) 7 ELECTRONIC ARTS
    Michael Jackson The Experience** (Wii, NDS, PSP) 8 UBISOFT
    NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2, PC) 9 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
    Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (360, PS3, Wii, PC) 10 ELECTRONIC ARTS



    Annual 2010 Top 10 Games (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC) Rank Publisher
    Call of Duty: Black Ops** (360, PS3, Wii, PC, NDS) 1 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
    Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
    Halo: Reach** (360) 3 MICROSOFT
    New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 4 NINTENDO
    Red Dead Redemption (360, PS3) 5 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
    Wii Fit Plus** (Wii) 6 NINTENDO
    Just Dance 2 (Wii) 7 UBISOFT
    Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2** (360, PS3, PC) 8 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
    Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood** (360, PS3) 9 UBISOFT
    NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii, PC) 10 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE

    Donkey Kong at 5. Retro deserve it, this has got to be their best seller by far now. A lot of people would be surprised not to see GT5 in top ten, although personally I expected it to sell the most in the first week like most AAA games.

    Now the wait for sales numbers to be leaked.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Just Dance 2 is a freaking juggernaut, bigger than WoW!

    No GT5, lawl.

    No Kinect games either, boo!

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  • spamfilterspamfilter Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The way the reporting format is presented its very hard for single platform games to show up unless it's a blockbuster.

    GT5 and Kinect games might have done decent despite not showing up on the top 10.

    ETA:
    "On an SKU basis, games that are in the top 10 for the month that aren't reflected in our title-level best-selling list include Kinect Sports from Microsoft, UDraw Studio with UDraw Tablet from THQ, and Dance Central from Microsoft."

    So 3 Kinect games in the individual format top 10.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    That's a lot of Epic Mickey sold.

    That's a shame.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Some further analysis from NPD's Anita Frazier:
    Overall

    "We estimate that the total consumer spend on games content to be between $15.4B and $15.6B for 2010, which is about flat to last year. This year, declines in portable and console game sales were offset by new physical PC game sales, which increased by 3%, and increases in the consumer spend occuring via digital download, mobile gaming apps, social network games, and used games. We will issue our final analysis of the total consumer spend on the industry in March when we release our 2010 edition of the Games Industry Total Consumer Spend report."

    "Sales of new physical video game hardware, software & accessories ended 2010 at $18.6B, a 6% decrease from 2009. If we include PC game sales, which enjoyed an increase of 3% versus '09, sales hit $19.3B, down 5% from '09. Aside from PC games, accessory sales were up over 13% due to an increase in the average retail price of accessory items of 20%. "

    "Among new physical video game sales in December 2010, the Wii and the 360 platforms generated the greatest dollar sales of all platforms, at 32% and 31% of dollar sales respectively, across all categories including hardware, software and accessories."

    Hardware

    "In 2010, the Xbox 360 platform was the only system to enjoy a year-over-year increase in unit sales over 2009. December 2010 is the best month ever for Xbox 360 hardware sales."

    "For the month of December, the Nintendo DS was the best-selling hardware system, achieving an install base of over 47 million units sold in the U.S., which now surpasses that of the PS2."


    Software

    "The best-selling game for the month, and for the year, was Call of Duty: Black Ops. Year-to-date it has sold more than 12 million units across all platforms, which is more than twice as many as the second best-selling title of the year, Madden NFL '11. This might lead some to think the industry is becoming more hit-driven with sales more concentrated among the top titles, but in fact, sales of the top 10 titles this year represented about the same percentage of total unit sales as they did last year."

    "The top five games of the year are Call of Duty: Black Ops, Madden NFL '11, Halo: Reach, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and Red Dead Redemption."

    "On an SKU basis, games that are in the top 10 for the month that aren't reflected in our title-level best-selling list include Kinect Sports from Microsoft, UDraw Studio with UDraw Tablet from THQ, and Dance Central from Microsoft. Outside of Black Ops and Assassin’s Creed, the top list on both a SKU and title level basis reflects an array of content that is appealing outside the core audience for gaming that you might expect to sell well during the holiday timeframe."

    "PC game dollar sales were up 62% in December led by sales of World of Warcraft: Cataclysm expansion pack. For 2010 new physical PC game sales, Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty and World of Warcraft: Cataclysm are the best-selling games, representing 14% of total pc game unit sales for the year."

    "Among the top 10 titles for the month, two are third-party Wii games including Just Dance 2 from Ubisoft, which was the best-selling game for the month at the SKU level, and Epic Mickey from Disney."

    Accessories

    "December 2010 is the biggest month for accessories sales in history, due to a hefty increase in the average retail price driven by specialty controllers.

    "The Kinect was the best-selling accessory item for the second month in a row, following its release in early November."

    "For both the month of December and for the whole year, Point & Subscription cards grew the most in unit volume vs. 2009. This is a retail reflection of the growing importance of digitally delivered gaming content."
    You hear that fragglefart? Dance Central made it into the individual top 10.

    Holy shit.

    edit: also uDraw has done some astounding business.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Dance Central AND Kinect Sports, quality!

    Good news for both Harmonix and Rare <3

    Does that mean Kinect Adventures is in the top 10 by being a pack-in with Kinect also, or do those not count?

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    They don't count pack-ins, IIRC.

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  • AkatsukiAkatsuki Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    DKCR. I'm pleased.

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  • BluefistBluefist Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    plufim wrote: »
    Ah, I see. Because people with CFW are very unlikely to connect to PSN (and are likely to be banned), then there wouldn't be any details to snoop on. Fair enough! Now I can remove my tinfoil hat.

    edit: ten minutes to NPD, right?


    I would still probably be careful and keep your CC details off the system anyway if you use the web browser.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Glad DKCR and Epic Mickey have done well too, not played them, but want to see more games like that right across the board, they look great.

    Also; it appears third parties have worked out how to sell on the Wii :P

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Wow Epic Mickey showed up?

    I thought it was da bomb.

    And by that I mean a bomb.

    Or is this one of those jumping too early to call something a bomb.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah they cracked the mysterious code: make a decent game and actually fucking advertise it.

    I can see why this took a while to work out!

    edit: Epic Mickey doing well might lead to Disney allowing further experimentation and exploration of their older IP. Even if the game is of questionable quality, this can still lead to good things.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I have a fondness for Mickey games from the 8- and 16- Bit SEGA classics <3.

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