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For some background I'm typing this from my bed while fervently wishing for my death, as my current existence as a vile germ nightmare is quite uncomfortable.
I also tend to put too heavy an emphasis on work.
That said, I'm a department manager for a major retail outlet. I've been there a little over a year. I missed work yesterday due to the aforementioned germ warfare going on in my bloodstream. Today my fever is down and I can kind of breathe through my nose again - my throat and body are still awful, when I try and talk it sounds like a frog version of the cryptkeeper, and I don't vomit anymore...so long as I don't eat anything.
If I called out again today it would be the third day I've missed in the time of my employment. The first about 7 months ago, and the second yesterday. I have 27 hours of sick time accrued.
Am I able to call out without being a total lazy goose, and without fear of job reprisal?
For some background I'm typing this from my bed while fervently wishing for my death, as my current existence as a vile germ nightmare is quite uncomfortable.
I also tend to put too heavy an emphasis on work.
That said, I'm a department manager for a major retail outlet. I've been there a little over a year. I missed work yesterday due to the aforementioned germ warfare going on in my bloodstream. Today my fever is down and I can kind of breathe through my nose again - my throat and body are still awful, when I try and talk it sounds like a frog version of the cryptkeeper, and I don't vomit anymore...so long as I don't eat anything.
If I called out again today it would be the third day I've missed in the time of my employment. The first about 7 months ago, and the second yesterday. I have 27 hours of sick time accrued.
Am I able to call out without being a total lazy goose, and without fear of job reprisal?
If you're sick, then you're sick and should take the time to convalesce.
It also depends on how your supervisor views your sick time.
I think in retail there is a lot more pressure for people to come to work. I can remember calling in sick and managers twisting my arm to still coming in, telling me they had no one to cover my area. Different places have different policies about sick time. The danger with coming to work sick is you potentially infect other coworkers which leads to even more lost time. Talk to your supervisor and see what they think.
I think in retail there is a lot more pressure for people to come to work. I can remember calling in sick and managers twisting my arm to still coming in, telling me they had no one to cover my area. Different places have different policies about sick time. The danger with coming to work sick is you potentially infect other coworkers which leads to even more lost time. Talk to your supervisor and see what they think.
You basically get turned in to a leper really quick if you miss shifts.
In this case I went ahead and bit the bullet and got a hold of my area manager, explained the situation, and was basically told I was being a goose for worrying about three days in over a year of work. We'll see if they meant it or not if I am publicly lashed next I'm in.
I think in retail there is a lot more pressure for people to come to work. I can remember calling in sick and managers twisting my arm to still coming in, telling me they had no one to cover my area. Different places have different policies about sick time. The danger with coming to work sick is you potentially infect other coworkers which leads to even more lost time. Talk to your supervisor and see what they think.
I agree with this. If you show your supervisor a doctor's note about how sick you are then there should be no problems. There's no point in your getting everyone else sick and since your body is worn down from fighting your illness you won't be as effective anyway.
Hope you get better soon. Getting some major virus sucks balls.
I think in retail there is a lot more pressure for people to come to work. I can remember calling in sick and managers twisting my arm to still coming in, telling me they had no one to cover my area. Different places have different policies about sick time. The danger with coming to work sick is you potentially infect other coworkers which leads to even more lost time. Talk to your supervisor and see what they think.
You basically get turned in to a leper really quick if you miss shifts.
In this case I went ahead and bit the bullet and got a hold of my area manager, explained the situation, and was basically told I was being a goose for worrying about three days in over a year of work. We'll see if they meant it or not if I am publicly lashed next I'm in.
Thanks.
I'd take what he said at face value. If you're a reliable employee, the fact that you got sick once in a year isn't going to be held against you. The fact that you reached out to your boss and explained what was going on certainly raised your credibility.
Now, if you were the type of person who took his sick leave as soon as it accrued and then only on Mondays or Fridays, your boss might not be as accomodating.
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One thing that surprises me about working in America is the reduced need for doctors notes when sick. In Australia, since we have bulk billing public healthcare, usually you can pop down to the doctor, have them look at you, tell you to get bedrest, and send you home with a note.
You give the note to your employer later on, and he knows you most likely weren't chucking a sickie so you can watch the cricket. </slang>
Some employers only required this for multiple days off, or days off on either monday or friday (one of mine did, one required it every time you were sick, no matter what day it was), and the made it much easier to feel comfortable about taking time off.
Of course, this doesn't help when you're in retail or the service industry, and they feel like they can shaft people. That said, the last thing you'd want to do as a dept manager is get most of your underlings sick. One more day off for you is far better than multiple days off for all of your employees.
Long story short, if you can afford it, and you feel like you need to reassure your manager about you taking sick leave being essential, go see a doctor and get them to document the need for bed rest. Makes it much easier to show you were screwed if they can you
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You should never report to work when you have any fever as you will infect customers and other employees. I had the flu two weeks ago and took M-W off when I had a fever and sucked it up for Thursday and Friday when I merely felt like death. Because I wasn't still contagious the doctor said.
My booming awful cough kept everyone far away though.
Part of it, no matter where you work, is track record. If you miss a day or 4 a month, people get tired of it. If you're good about coming in when you're able and something nasty hits you once a year, the good supervisors will a) Take your word for it because you don't habitually use "I'm sick *coughcoughcough*" to get out of work and b) realize you're sick enough it'll cost them more lost shifts when you infect everyone else.
Two things about working retail:
1) Get a flu shot every year. You work around kids and old people, you need a flu shot.
2) Do not go in when you are contagious. If you are genuinely ill and at risk of infecting others, you have a duty to stay home. If a supervisor complains about it, take it up the chain. Customers can and will complain about obviously ill employees.
Part of it, no matter where you work, is track record. If you miss a day or 4 a month, people get tired of it. If you're good about coming in when you're able and something nasty hits you once a year, the good supervisors will a) Take your word for it because you don't habitually use "I'm sick *coughcoughcough*" to get out of work and b) realize you're sick enough it'll cost them more lost shifts when you infect everyone else.
The world would be better and less sick if more managers realized this. Doubly so if more hourly/sick people realized this. Triply so if managers would still pay the hourly people when they're truly sick and get a doctor's note.
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My current job gives no personal time. Simply 4 sick days accrued throughout the year. What is the moral stance on taking those days as personal?
I actually used 2 the week of my wedding and told my boss as such.
To me if you dont get personal days, then your sick days are your personal days. No job should make people endure the mental strain of no personal days to wind down.
That being said, my last job I left with all my sick days, most my personal days and all my vacation time in check and the last time I had an extended vacation or personal time off for more then a day was two years ago (wedding 2 extra days aside). So its not like i abuse this moral stance. But am I wrong to feel that way? Sick days= personal days if no personal days exist.
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Doubly so if more hourly/sick people realized this.
Yeah, even worse than the people who call in sick all of the time are the people that never call in sick, even when they should have.
The only thing I'd worry about with multiple days is if you are required to have a doctor's note. Most places do stipulate that, after so many days. Unless you have one, then no worries.
The custom I see the most is that any more than 2 consecutive sick days is going to need a doctor's note.
A bit of advice, Don't ever sacrifice your health for some low level retail job, its just not worth it. Back when I worked retail, I watched 2 coworkers do permanent damage by putting the job before their health.
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If you're sick, then you're sick and should take the time to convalesce.
It also depends on how your supervisor views your sick time.
You basically get turned in to a leper really quick if you miss shifts.
In this case I went ahead and bit the bullet and got a hold of my area manager, explained the situation, and was basically told I was being a goose for worrying about three days in over a year of work. We'll see if they meant it or not if I am publicly lashed next I'm in.
Thanks.
I agree with this. If you show your supervisor a doctor's note about how sick you are then there should be no problems. There's no point in your getting everyone else sick and since your body is worn down from fighting your illness you won't be as effective anyway.
Hope you get better soon. Getting some major virus sucks balls.
Now, if you were the type of person who took his sick leave as soon as it accrued and then only on Mondays or Fridays, your boss might not be as accomodating.
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You give the note to your employer later on, and he knows you most likely weren't chucking a sickie so you can watch the cricket. </slang>
Some employers only required this for multiple days off, or days off on either monday or friday (one of mine did, one required it every time you were sick, no matter what day it was), and the made it much easier to feel comfortable about taking time off.
Of course, this doesn't help when you're in retail or the service industry, and they feel like they can shaft people. That said, the last thing you'd want to do as a dept manager is get most of your underlings sick. One more day off for you is far better than multiple days off for all of your employees.
Long story short, if you can afford it, and you feel like you need to reassure your manager about you taking sick leave being essential, go see a doctor and get them to document the need for bed rest. Makes it much easier to show you were screwed if they can you
My booming awful cough kept everyone far away though.
1) Get a flu shot every year. You work around kids and old people, you need a flu shot.
2) Do not go in when you are contagious. If you are genuinely ill and at risk of infecting others, you have a duty to stay home. If a supervisor complains about it, take it up the chain. Customers can and will complain about obviously ill employees.
The world would be better and less sick if more managers realized this. Doubly so if more hourly/sick people realized this. Triply so if managers would still pay the hourly people when they're truly sick and get a doctor's note.
I actually used 2 the week of my wedding and told my boss as such.
To me if you dont get personal days, then your sick days are your personal days. No job should make people endure the mental strain of no personal days to wind down.
That being said, my last job I left with all my sick days, most my personal days and all my vacation time in check and the last time I had an extended vacation or personal time off for more then a day was two years ago (wedding 2 extra days aside). So its not like i abuse this moral stance. But am I wrong to feel that way? Sick days= personal days if no personal days exist.
Yeah, even worse than the people who call in sick all of the time are the people that never call in sick, even when they should have.
The only thing I'd worry about with multiple days is if you are required to have a doctor's note. Most places do stipulate that, after so many days. Unless you have one, then no worries.
It wouldn't bother me, though your boss may think otherwise.
A bit of advice, Don't ever sacrifice your health for some low level retail job, its just not worth it. Back when I worked retail, I watched 2 coworkers do permanent damage by putting the job before their health.