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Skeith
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New thread smell. I'll add patch notes or something to this OP later, when I'm not late for Cho'gall attempts.
Patch 4.3.2 Notes wrote:* Aspect of the Hawk now grants roughly 35% more attack power.
* Deterrence now also reduces damage taken by 30% while active.
* Black Arrow now ticks every 2 seconds for 20 seconds, as opposed to every 3 seconds for 15 seconds. The total damage dealt by the ability is unchanged.
* Lock and Load no longer benefits Arcane Shot, nor is it consumed by Arcane Shot.
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Well, it is aimed at raiding. I'd assume that most people realize that raptors/snakes are the choice for solo'ing with MM, and windserpents/dragonhawks for SV.
I wonder if what they're basing that on is the tank needing an Armor Debuff for maximum threat? That seems to make some sense anyway.
You are thinking way too hard about this flow chart.
I have 5 pet spots, if I am going into a random raid, not knowing the group comp, what are the safest or best pets to have in those 5 positions? Alternatively, assuming you have no pet, what are the first 5 pets you will get, not knowing what the group comp will be?
I think it'll be Wolf, Cat, then what? Raptor ravager dragonhawk?
Yep, that sounds pretty good to me.
So inadvertantly, in my infinite (but totally unconscious) wisdom I chose the right pet (a raptor) for the leveling of my hunter ... sweet
On a not so much related note ... I downloaded and installed the gun silencer add on somebody mentioned in the old thread. And it is awesome ... especially since wild quiver is proccing quite often, so now I don't go deaf.
I think I get more excited for my Pets getting talent points then me, their trees really seem to beef them up!
I finally started getting some luck on drops with my Hunter. Sunday, Tia's Grace dropped from the last boss in H Lost City and after I'd already run H VP with no luck, I got H VP as my random dungeon and the belt *finally* dropped from that fucking dragon. I had the buckle and gems on me to get it ready and wear it right then too.
I only have one remaining <346, my other trinket which I'm trying to replace with the heroic Key from H Stonecore. Right now I have the regular version in that slot.
Though I need to check some things, I *think* I may have let my haste drop a bit too low, my Cobra Shot cast time is up to 1.7s now and it was 1.6s forever.
Also, lost the roll on the hunter pants in BH last night.
Wolf is > dragonhawk for SV for soloing. The 5% crit uptime is 100%.
I did just have a H Stonecore where basically all my available pets were useless. We had a Feral Tank (Armor Debuff, %5 Crit Buff, Mark/Kings), Unholy DK (8% Magic Damage Debuff, Agi/Str Buff), Ret Pally (Blessing of Might, and that's it I think), and Priest healer (Fortitude).
I guess the only thing we *didn't* have available was Bloodlust, but fuck BM until they buff it. That and Chromie is probably annoying as fuck in a dungeon. Hell, I was flying around in Twilight Highlands and started hearing all kinds of screeching and stomping... couldn't tell what direction it was, flew around a bit and *finally* found someone with Chromaggus doing dailies. God he's loud.
What should I be reforging away and adding, and gemming for etc? Is it like wrath when you gemmed for your meta, then all reds or what?
I'm surv and gem two deadly ember topaz for the fleet meta then all red. I've been reforging to hit rating cap then to roughly 800 haste. After that I reforge to as much crit>mastery. Not that you should take my advice. I'm only a distant 2nd to the shadow priest in my 10m when Blizz clearly thinks surv is OP and shadowpriests are underpowered.
Haste is in a pretty weird spot right now actually. It's still pretty "meh." Currently the only use of Haste (again, speaking from a SV perspective) is to reduce Cobra Shot to a ~1.67 cast time. You will virtually notice 0 change in focus regen from getting haste from gear, so you should never actively gear for it (via reforging or gems). This /should/ hopefully change when the new haste code rolls around in 4.0.6, which should make it much more attractive. Not exactly sure on the specifics of that though.
For gemming, typically you want straight agility. If the Socket bonus is +20 Agi or more, it's usually worth it to socket for that, UNLESS the sockets are something like Yellow/Blue. If you have a Red/Yellow socket or a Red/Blue Socket, then you should socket for those, bearing the bonus in mind. Fill Blues with Agi/Hit gems and Yellows with Agi/Crit. Socket Bonuses which give secondary stats (crit, hit, mastery, haste) are not worth it.
About meta gems, currently the meta requirement is stupid (requires more blues than reds). This includes the Wrath agility meta. However, this is being changed in 4.0.6 to "requires 3 reds." IMO don't worry about gemming correctly for your meta right now, wait until 4.0.6
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Also the buzzing pets. I was digging the Wasp I picked up in Un'Goro but that constant buzzing drove me to Abandon him in less then 5 minutes.
I believe that change was reverted. I use http://www.femaledwarf.com/ for all of my reforging needs. I think haste will become more valuble post patch, considering that we literally never stop shooting until the target is dead or we press escape, movement included.
Sorry, I guess I haven't been keeping up with hotfixes to other classes. The last blue post on class dps I read was a few weeks ago.
I know survival is the only viable PvE spec for hunters right now, but what about PvP? Is it pretty much go survival or go home as well?
Why is Survival the only viable PvE spec? I'm running BM and having no problems. I found Survival to be boring. (Note: Level 61).
Survival damage at this point is pretty awesome and better than BM/MM by quite some margin. This all changes in the next patch where it looks like certain styles of MM will be higher dps than Survival but standard rotation models will come out about equal. No idea on BM since I didn't do any testing on it.
Ah, got ya. Yeah, I'm def. not a Raider or min/maxer, I just like playing. My giant red wolf owns shit well enough for me!
I'm enjoying BM so far, and I tend to do rather well in PvP. (again, still not max level).
After you've gotten your weapon I mean.
If not, go for the 4 piece bonus, because it's OP.
If you have that, go for the piece that would be the biggest upgrade.
Your OTHER weapon. I went Bow ---> Polearm. Now every week will be another upgrade from here out.
Shame I lose a ton of stats by trying to dual wield. I wanted to stick a weapon chain on the offhand.
Anyway, When i solo, and quest as BM spec and using a crab, things just die before they touch me..and 90% of the time by the time kill shot comes up, i press it and it gets to the mob, its dead already.
When i go into dungeons, things die pretty quickly...but....im not very high on the damage meter.
I'm not sure if im just missing a basic law of huntism or if im just playing with people more tricked out then i am. Cause i rarely get in meele, I havent spent a whole lot of time playing with gear optimazation except to try and get the best bow/gun/xbox. I basically am running on quest rewards and boss drops and if its got more agil/crit on it then my current piece i grab it. I'm currently level 63, and have some questions.
Should i be going for fast ranged weapon, lower damage or higher damage, slower weapon?
Should i be saving my focus for kill command above everything, or is it okay to arcane shot (and keep serpent sting up).
People might ask why im still using a crab...well since i solo so much its great for pinning, and does some pretty good damage. I've grabbed a few other pets to test but they just havent been as good so far. when i get to 69, and get exotics, ill be swapping some pets and getting a solid dps one.
Rotation: For BM I think it is keep serpent up, spam Kill Command, use arcane if you have the focus for it and fill time with steady shot (until you get cobra).
For dungeons you should use a cunning or ferocity pet instead of a tenacity one, but it probably doesn't make much of a difference at your level.
Any tips/tricks I should know about utilizing my Frost Trap properly? Right now I'm misdirecting on to the tank before a Pull and tossing my frost trap on the target we want to CC in order to initiate the fight. That seems to work ok, but during boss battles when they want me to CC a specific target that shows up later, i'm having difficulty getting the job done. My current strategy is to drop my trap and aggro the new mob to get it to move over to me and hit the trap. But between the Tank aoe threat building stuff and the parties general aoe damage how do I pull this off quickly and effectively?
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