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We use condoms now.
My Doctor (general MD) suggested this also it's on planned parenthood website. Some places says condom is around 2% and 4% for pulling out (in regards to pregnancy). We're both STD free and only worried about getting knocked up.
Is this legit?
My Doctor (general MD) suggested this also it's on planned parenthood website. Some places says condom is around 2% and 4% for pulling out (in regards to pregnancy). We're both STD free and only worried about getting knocked up.
Is this legit?
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You could combine spermicide with that, I suppose. You've talked to your doctor so like Dru said, you know the risks.
Birth control failure rates are always annual.
You don't mention any other forms of birth control. Is it an option for her to try a hormonal method? (which of course aren't 100% either, but are vastly better than just pulling out and hoping really hard)
Yes, pulling out works. But you have to pull out early enough, which is hard to do when you're enjoying sex, which you always should be.
Seriously. It is a far riskier method of contraception than any other, and more than any other depends on you performing the technique perfectly. I would honestly say only try using this method if you are financially and emotionally prepared (both of you) to deal with an unexpected pregnancy.
There was a study recently that seemed to indicate that when done right, withdrawal is better than condoms. Part of the reason for this is the debunking of the myth that there is sperm in pre-cum, which is why people thought it was an especially bad idea.
If you can do it right, you can do it. But it takes a lot of self control.
Condoms are cheap, and there's thousands of places that just give them out for free. The pill's less cheap but covered by many insurance plans. Family planning clinics all over the country offer income based discounts.
Have you ever had sexy time with your lady while drunk? Do you think you could pull out in that situation? How about first thing in the morning when you're not all the way awake? What about at night when you're really tired?
Basically, it would take a ton of discipline at all times. You can't get lazy even once. Add in that ejaculating will not feel as good when you're pulling out (information coming from the husband.) I wouldn't recommend this as a serious form of birth control. That 4% statistic, that is qualified "with perfect use." So 4% of people who never made a mistake got pregnant. Twice the number of people that never made a mistake with condoms.
If your lady has an issue with using hormonal birth control look into getting her a diaphragm.
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So, does it work? Yes in the sense that it works better than doing nothing and still having regular intercourse. Does it work better than a multitude of other, easier options. No.
You need to weigh the benefits of not having a child with the risks of unwanted pregnancy. Then, consider what the side effects and harms of various methods. Allergies with latex? Hormonal shifts if your partner goes on birth control?
Sure, some people may go years without having a kid on pulling out. Some get one on the first try - it's all about risks and benefits.
I suggest you take a few moments to consider the question, "What would my life be like if she got pregnant?" Can you afford it? Do you want the responsibility? Is she ready to be a mother?
If your answer is 'No' then you should really evaluate the birth control options available. The Depo Provera formulation, for instance, is much less hormone over a very long period of time than the pill - requires a single injection every 3 months for 99% effectiveness.
My advice? Keep on keepin' on with Condoms man. It's really is better then the alternatives if you are not prepared for children. If you and her are really against Condoms, have a talk with her doctor about the IUD's. I can tell you, my wife got one...it has revolutionized our sex life. Some younger women don't want one, which is fine. In that case as the man you're kind of stuck with the burden of being responsible.
If you're pursuing it because you're fed up with rubbers and want a different option, have you and your lady considered other methods? I know the pill has a lot of unpopular opinions floating around about it right now, people seem to think they're one industrial pill dispenser and if your body doesn't compute with it you're in for a whole host of hormonal and physical side effects. However, that's not the case, they're are dozens of different types of birth control pills/patches/rings in either triphasic or monophasic delivery systems with multiple different hormonal combinations. Working with your doctor to find the right combination and delivery system for your body and your age is very important, but the results are pretty great and the reliability is very reassuring.
And there's also other non-hormonal options, like IUD's and diaphragms though if you're not interested in condoms as a couple I'd infer that you'll probably feel the same way about the diaphragm. IUD's are making a resurgence with the popularity of Mirena, I know several ladies who are very happy about having them as they're a more long-term birth control option (up to five years, I think). Mirena also releases hormones, but the other type of IUD (copper based) does not.
Lastly, if you're convinced that you definitely never ever want to have kids and there's no convincing you otherwise, consider a vasectomy. Yes, it's pretty much permanent, but it's about as effective a pregnancy preventer you can get without stopping having sex.
If you want a kid, by all means, use the pull out method, but if that's not your plan, and you still use it, you're in for a world of poopy diapers, bottles and crying.
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well it is better than nothing. But not that much better.
Stick with the condoms.
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Note the rate is 4% if ALWAYS done correctly, 27% if not ALWAYS done correctly. That's... a lot of work.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method-4218.htm
edit: And condoms are 2%/15%. Lets use real facts and figures here, rather than our feelings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFMDgW0wDeI&feature=player_embedded#!
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My wife uses the ring and it's pretty great. Yeah, it's tangible and not as innocuous as a pill or IUD but you are at much less of a risk of forgetting to apply it and it can always be taken out for short periods of time.
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All in all I'd say you're being silly geese for even considering coitus interruptus for BC while really not wanting to become pregnant though. Seriously.
Using pulling out as a form of birth control really isn't any more ridiculous than using condoms alone. It does require more self-control but it requires less planning ahead.
I think it is really horrible that some of you are insulting her doctor when her doctor is just providing the OP's gf with the most current information available. Yes, I will provide citations as soon as I get to work.
Though with perfect use condom jumps to 2%, I don't see any "perfect" use for the pull out method so it's either 100% if you're able to do it every time (and abstain from sex afterwords) or it never happens? I would say that a doctor would be horrible for recommending it, and not giving every other list of options. Or at least cautioning it as a last resort. Kind of like the rhythm method.
Perfect for condom is 2% and perfect for withdrawal is 4%. I'd argue it's harder to maintain perfection with withdrawal than condom but people are different. Most people are not perfect in their usage of most forms of bc though.
Condoms and pulling out are pretty statistically identical in terms of average and ideal use. Would you consider a doctor horrible for recommending condom usage?
Pulling out may or may not be the ideal method for the OP and the OP's gf. But I think it is premature to be condemning the doctor as "horrible" when we don't know anything else about the discussion that went on or about the gf's medical history. We don't know that the doctor and the OP's gf didn't go through a long list of all the options and decide for reasons that haven't been shared here that it is the best option.
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You're making a great case :^:
But I agree, pulling out is for people with extremely high self-control, drunk/tired/groggy or not.
For the OP I recommend looking into a vasectomy, just drop off some fresh sperm before getting it done. Not that you have to do even that as you can always reverse the vasectomy later on - and in a couple of years I expect the reversal procedure to get even better.
Most of the time vasectomies can be reversed. Not all.
If you are pretty sure you want kids a vasectomy probably isn't the best choice in birth control. It most likely can be reversed, but if you end up being one of the few that can't having kids is going to get a lot more expensive real fast.
Just for fun, here is a recent study showing that about 70% of men who have a vasectomy reversed within the first 10 years are able to get their partner pregnant within two years after the reversal. And it excludes men whose partners have any fertility issues.
This.
Besides, if he changes his mind in ten years then chances are that medical science has advanced sufficiently for there to be a negligent risk of infertility.
Do you want kids in the future OP?